Booming bikes

Cycling in Britain is Booming.

Last year saw a massive 18% increase in the numbers of people making
trips by bicycle, according to the health charity Sustrans. A total of
256 million trips by bike, including 3.3 million people using the
National Cycle Network.

Chief executive Malcolm Shepherd said: "Cycling and walking are the
answers to our rising petrol prices and expanding waistlines, but we
need safe routes to feel comfortable travelling by bike and foot.
People across the country are crying out for routes where they can get
off roads and make safe, healthy, cheap and green journeys. It's time
the Government had the foresight to properly fund cycling and
walking."

Source: The Press Association

I hope there are further rises in fuel duty. The extra VAT revenue
could be used to fund additional cycling facilities.

On 18/06/2012 20:11, Bertie Wooster wrote:
Cycling in Britain is Booming.

Last year saw a massive 18% increase in the numbers of people making
trips by bicycle,

So, we go from 2% of journeys being made by push bike to a whopping 2.36%.

Clearly not a maths teacher are you Cwispin?


I hope there are further rises in fuel duty. The extra VAT revenue
could be used to fund additional cycling facilities.

Sponging freeloaders to a man.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:11:15 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

Cycling in Britain is Booming.

Last year saw a massive 18% increase in the numbers of people making
trips by bicycle, according to the health charity Sustrans. A total of
256 million trips by bike, including 3.3 million people using the
National Cycle Network.


Oh dear - oh dear can you get nothing correct.

There was not a "massive 18% increase in the numbers of people making trips by
cycle" at all. They actually claim that there was an increase of 18% in the
number of trips made on the National Cycle Network which is not the same thing.

In fact they actually claim that the 18% increase was in the in the number of
trips made - not the numbers of people making those trips: again quite
different things

Also - it should be noted that this contrasts with
official statistics from the Department for Transport which
shows cycling to be static. Odd that - DfT no axe to grind concluded one thing
- charity trying to prove their effectiveness concluding something else.

Most odd.

So how about more cyclists are moving off non-designated NCN routes - on to
the NCN routes - is that all that has happened?

That I can believe - but I certainly do not believe what you have claimed. Do
you have a link for your claim please.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:14:38 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:11:15 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

Cycling in Britain is Booming.

Last year saw a massive 18% increase in the numbers of people making
trips by bicycle, according to the health charity Sustrans. A total of
256 million trips by bike, including 3.3 million people using the
National Cycle Network.


Oh dear - oh dear can you get nothing correct.

There was not a "massive 18% increase in the numbers of people making trips by
cycle" at all. They actually claim that there was an increase of 18% in the
number of trips made on the National Cycle Network which is not the same thing.

In fact they actually claim that the 18% increase was in the in the number of
trips made - not the numbers of people making those trips: again quite
different things

Yes - the claim is for 300,000 more people on bikes; a 10% increase on
the previous year.

Also - it should be noted that this contrasts with
official statistics from the Department for Transport which
shows cycling to be static. Odd that - DfT no axe to grind concluded one thing
- charity trying to prove their effectiveness concluding something else.

Most odd.

So how about more cyclists are moving off non-designated NCN routes - on to
the NCN routes - is that all that has happened?

That I can believe - but I certainly do not believe what you have claimed. Do
you have a link for your claim please.

=====Quote=====
Around 40 million more cycling trips were made during 2011 than the
year before, an 18% increase, taking the total to 256 million, said
cycling charity Sustrans. An estimated 3.3 million people used the
national network during 2011, an increase of 300,000 over the previous
year.
=====/Quote=====

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1339930798287A

On Jun 18, 8:11*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
Cycling in Britain is Booming.

Last year saw a massive 18% increase in the numbers of people making
trips by bicycle, according to the health charity Sustrans. A total of
256 million trips by bike, including 3.3 million people using the
National Cycle Network.

Is that figure including bicycle shaped objects (BSO's) ?

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:35:36 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

snip


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1339930798287A


I see now - you chose to omit the opening paragraph for some obscure reason.

"Millions of extra bike journeys were made last year on the UK's National Cycle
Network, according to a new study."


It was a pity that you omitted that opening paragraph wasn't it - by doing so
it totally changed the claim; intentional perhaps?

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:43:17 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:35:36 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

snip


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1339930798287A


I see now - you chose to omit the opening paragraph for some obscure reason.

"Millions of extra bike journeys were made last year on the UK's National Cycle
Network, according to a new study."


It was a pity that you omitted that opening paragraph wasn't it - by doing so
it totally changed the claim; intentional perhaps?

I believe it's a reasonable assumption that if the number of trips on
the NCR network has increased by 18%, the total number of cycle trips
will have increased by a similar amount.

On 19/06/2012 16:52, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:43:17 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:35:36 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

snip


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1339930798287A


I see now - you chose to omit the opening paragraph for some obscure reason.

"Millions of extra bike journeys were made last year on the UK's National Cycle
Network, according to a new study."


It was a pity that you omitted that opening paragraph wasn't it - by doing so
it totally changed the claim; intentional perhaps?

I believe it's a reasonable assumption that if the number of trips on
the NCR network has increased by 18%, the total number of cycle trips
will have increased by a similar amount.

Would it be a reasonable assumption that if the number of trips on the
motorway network increased by infinity percent between August 1958 and August
2008, the total number of motor trips will have increased by a similar
proportion?

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:52:10 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:43:17 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:35:36 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

snip


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1339930798287A


I see now - you chose to omit the opening paragraph for some obscure reason.

"Millions of extra bike journeys were made last year on the UK's National Cycle
Network, according to a new study."


It was a pity that you omitted that opening paragraph wasn't it - by doing so
it totally changed the claim; intentional perhaps?

I believe it's a reasonable assumption that if the number of trips on
the NCR network has increased by 18%, the total number of cycle trips
will have increased by a similar amount.


Oh - so you deliberately left that bit off because you thought that it was
immaterial.

I wonder why the author of the report put it in?

Also - they could of course said that an 18% increase on the NCR network meant
that cycling must have increased by 18% over the UK as a whole.

They didn't.

I wonder why not.

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:01:35 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 19/06/2012 16:52, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:43:17 +0100, Judith
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:35:36 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote:

snip


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1339930798287A


I see now - you chose to omit the opening paragraph for some obscure reason.

"Millions of extra bike journeys were made last year on the UK's National Cycle
Network, according to a new study."


It was a pity that you omitted that opening paragraph wasn't it - by doing so
it totally changed the claim; intentional perhaps?

I believe it's a reasonable assumption that if the number of trips on
the NCR network has increased by 18%, the total number of cycle trips
will have increased by a similar amount.

Would it be a reasonable assumption that if the number of trips on the
motorway network increased by infinity percent between August 1958 and August
2008, the total number of motor trips will have increased by a similar
proportion?

That would be a false assuption.

Do you think that the National Cycle Network increased by 18% between
2010 and 2011?