that's a lot of racers

On 01/12/2011 18:47, Steve Freides wrote:
Brad Anders wrote:
tri-dorks. Pretty soon, we'd have had guys wearing those Bruno thongs
in the TdF.

OK, I just looked up "Bruno thong" and I'm not happy that I did.

Then how about the Boratkini?
http://www.cxmagazine.com/wp-content...l-img_9059.jpg

atriage wrote in
:

Second to last time I fell of was when elbow steering when solo
riding. ISTR that just before I hit the road I was thinking something
along the lines of "You always pay for stupidity".


Which is funny, because the last thought of most of the guys here would
be "I always paid for a blowjob."

--
Bill Fred

A. Dumas wrote:
On 01/12/2011 18:47, Steve Freides wrote:
Brad Anders wrote:
tri-dorks. Pretty soon, we'd have had guys wearing those Bruno
thongs in the TdF.

OK, I just looked up "Bruno thong" and I'm not happy that I did.

Then how about the Boratkini?
http://www.cxmagazine.com/wp-content...l-img_9059.jpg

I am losing my appetite here.

-S-

In article
,
--D-y wrote:

The real bitch here, IMHO, is, to put said bitch in the form of a
question: "What is worse than a rider using fred bars in a mass-start
ride or race?".

A: "A rider using *pretend* fred bars in a mass-start ride or race".
Because, in a world peopled with those who resort to violence or
threats of violence when criticized for their actions, even when said
actions pose a clear danger to themselves (which we don't necessarily
care about) or others (which we do care about), pretend fred bars are
going to be even more difficult to police than real fred bars.

(Yes I've had some recent experience, after I complained-- very
mildly-- about being "shaved" when passed, with no warning given, and
no, there was no actual violence perpetrated after the perp changed
his mind about knocking me down in order to "shut your mouth". Funny
how that goes sometimes, isn't it? g).

What are fred bars?

--
Michael Press

On Dec 1, 7:22*pm, Michael Press wrote:

What are fred bars?

Handlebars that freds use.
--D-y

On Dec 1, 6:15*am, Scott Hendricks
wrote:
On Dec 1, 5:58*am, "Steve Freides" wrote:

Scott Hendricks wrote:
http://pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullst...True&catname=L...

sort of funny, a legend of US cycling feeling the need to embellish
his accomplishments in the opening to his training article on PEZ.

I'm not sure what's worse, thinking that finishing 6 minutes behind
the "winner" is impressive, or that he was "competing" against 6400
"racers".

I think it's grand. *He's in his sixties, he's still competeing, and the
idea that he has a "need to embellish his accomplishments" is in the
mind of one reader, not the writer. *The article is pleasant read for
any fattie master interested in gear and interested in performing well.

-S-

Uh, Steve, there may have been 6400 entrants, spread across 3 separate
events, but in the event he was in there were maybe 2-300 racers in
the ~2000 entrants. For most of them, merely finishing was the goal.
He was bragging about doing well in a century ride, and inflated the
numbers to include the metric century & 30 mile events.

How would you define embellish?

I live in Tucson.
I've never ridden El Tour, in part because I'm lazy, and the
registration is kind of pricy, but also because it's a huge ride
full of people that, as Scott says, just want to finish, and have
little group riding experience, and those people make me
nervous.

I have some friends who are casual cyclists who've done
El Tour and one who does ultra distance events, and they
typically think of El Tour as a "race," sort of. I don't think
they fully understand the distinction between it and a USCF-type
mass start race, although they certainly know they aren't
in the ~200 people that are actually "racing" it.

John Howard should understand the distinction. I would
expect someone who is a big enough fanboi to read Pez
to also understand the distinction, but maybe I'm wrong
about that. Post-LANCE, there are a lot of casual fans of
pro racing that don't know much about amateur racing.

So yeah, it's kind of ridiculous for him to say he was in
a field of "6400 racers." 6400 riders, maybe. I do think it's
an achievement of sorts for a 64 year old guy to hang with the
group long enough to come in 6 minutes down. The lead pack
is hardly top pros, but they do hammer.

However, this training tip, argh. Anyone who can't figure out the
phantom-aerobar position on their own is not skilled enough to
try riding in it.

Fredmaster Ben

Fredmaster of Brainerd a écrit profondement:


| So yeah, it's kind of ridiculous for him to say he was in
| a field of "6400 racers." 6400 riders, maybe. I do think it's
| an achievement of sorts for a 64 year old guy to hang with the
| group long enough to come in 6 minutes down. The lead pack
| is hardly top pros, but they do hammer.

The Nice - Cannes Marathon started off with 11,000 plus runners a couple
of weeks ago

And the UFOLEP Cycling Sportives regularly have 6,000 riders on the
start line, There were 8,000 in Cuneo back in 1988 for Moser's farewell
ride, It was a little scary although unlike some charity events, 90% of
the riders are reasonably skilled at group riding.

Similarly the numbers ran up into the 5,000s for that Laurentian which
Cyclingnews reported as a "Race" that Vino won, Well he crossed the line first but
that didn't necessarily mean he "won" as there are gradings in UFOLEP
events for an end of season Trophee d'Or. Laffz - Davey finished well
back but was hoping to get the oldest finisher, but unfortunately he had
a team-mate who was 84 and he got that prize,

I just posted this only to indicate the levels of interest there are in these
Derbies in FroggyReich.

--
Davey Crockett
Flying the Flag of the English
The Flag of Hengest and Horsa
http://azurservers.com:7080/rbr/englishdragon.jpg

On Dec 1, 10:31*am, "Steve Freides" wrote:
Scott Hendricks wrote:
On Dec 1, 5:58 am, "Steve Freides" wrote:
Scott Hendricks wrote:
http://pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullst...True&catname=L...

sort of funny, a legend of US cycling feeling the need to embellish
his accomplishments in the opening to his training article on PEZ.

I'm not sure what's worse, thinking that finishing 6 minutes behind
the "winner" is impressive, or that he was "competing" against 6400
"racers".

I think it's grand. He's in his sixties, he's still competeing, and
the idea that he has a "need to embellish his accomplishments" is in
the mind of one reader, not the writer. The article is pleasant read
for any fattie master interested in gear and interested in
performing well.

-S-

Uh, Steve, there may have been 6400 entrants, spread across 3 separate
events, but in the event he was in there were maybe 2-300 racers in
the ~2000 entrants. For most of them, merely finishing was the goal.
He was bragging about doing well in a century ride, and inflated the
numbers to include the metric century & 30 mile events.

How would you define embellish?

Dumbass,

"Bragging", along with "embellish", are in your mind, not anywhere in
the article I read. *No one except you gives a rat's ass whether he
finished 16th out of 6400 or 64th out of 1600. *He found a riding
position that might help some people and also might require some prep
work for some of those same people so he wrote an article explaining it.

I've spent many a mile in that position. *How many times have we seen
the same thing in a solo breakaway in a grand tour? *The article is
about getting a little closer to your TT position on your road bike.

Could someone please play the Beatles, "When I'm 64" now?

-S-

Steve, I didn't say diddly about the article, I didn't even read it. I
was talking about the intro, where he embellished his performance by
claiming to have beaten all but 15 of the 6400 "racers".

On Dec 1, 10:31*am, "Steve Freides" wrote:
Scott Hendricks wrote:
On Dec 1, 5:58 am, "Steve Freides" wrote:
Scott Hendricks wrote:
http://pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullst...True&catname=L...

sort of funny, a legend of US cycling feeling the need to embellish
his accomplishments in the opening to his training article on PEZ.

I'm not sure what's worse, thinking that finishing 6 minutes behind
the "winner" is impressive, or that he was "competing" against 6400
"racers".

I think it's grand. He's in his sixties, he's still competeing, and
the idea that he has a "need to embellish his accomplishments" is in
the mind of one reader, not the writer. The article is pleasant read
for any fattie master interested in gear and interested in
performing well.

-S-

Uh, Steve, there may have been 6400 entrants, spread across 3 separate
events, but in the event he was in there were maybe 2-300 racers in
the ~2000 entrants. For most of them, merely finishing was the goal.
He was bragging about doing well in a century ride, and inflated the
numbers to include the metric century & 30 mile events.

How would you define embellish?

Dumbass,

"Bragging", along with "embellish", are in your mind, not anywhere in
the article I read. *No one except you gives a rat's ass whether he
finished 16th out of 6400 or 64th out of 1600. *He found a riding
position that might help some people and also might require some prep
work for some of those same people so he wrote an article explaining it.

I've spent many a mile in that position. *How many times have we seen
the same thing in a solo breakaway in a grand tour? *The article is
about getting a little closer to your TT position on your road bike.

Could someone please play the Beatles, "When I'm 64" now?

-S-

Steve, I didn't say diddly about the article, I didn't even read it. I
was talking about the intro, where he embellished his performance by
claiming to have beaten all but 15 of the 6400 "racers".

On Dec 1, 2:50*pm, "Steve Freides" wrote:
A. Dumas wrote:
On 01/12/2011 18:47, Steve Freides wrote:
Brad Anders wrote:
tri-dorks. Pretty soon, we'd have had guys wearing those Bruno
thongs in the TdF.

OK, I just looked up "Bruno thong" and I'm not happy that I did.

Then how about the Boratkini?
http://www.cxmagazine.com/wp-content...d-cyclocross-w...

I am losing my appetite here.

That's part of the training program for Fat Masters!

Next tip article: how to weigh your oatmeal.

Fredmaster Ben