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Old March 2nd 04, 08:27 PM
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Riding around Marin over the years I have noticed a definite effect of
bikes on hoof pocked horse trails. WHen conditions are muddy horses
leave deep hoof prints in muddy sections of trails. The water collects
in the hoof prints in a lot of areas because the fine soil and clay it
doesn't drain. This causes the area to stay muddy, this is particulary
noticeable on downhill sections where you would expect the water to
drain better.

In areas where mountain bikes have gone over the prints they more or
less connect the dots by creating drainage and flow between the
tracks and allowing them to dry up.

I propose that bikes and horses should have some type of alternating
schedule to keep the trails in better shape.

I am working on habitat for wild animals. Since man is evolved from
animals he is therefore part of the habitat. Therefore trails for
bikes and cars should be included.
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Old March 2nd 04, 09:50 PM
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When I rode the Tsali(sp?) in North Carolina way back in the early 90'
they had alternating days with horses and bikes. The trails were i
pretty good shape then

Its a good idea

Dav


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Old March 3rd 04, 11:57 PM
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:50:37 GMT, DaveWV
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When I rode the Tsali(sp?) in North Carolina way back in the early 90's
they had alternating days with horses and bikes. The trails were in
pretty good shape then.

Its a good idea.

Dave

Of course here in the bay area the horse folks got all the money and
their older, plus they all collect at stables. This means they have
clout and the ability to work as a group.

Now mountain bikers tend to be your, don't vote, and are scattered all
over the place, so no clout.

I always tell people that I wouldn't ride illegal trails if they made
them legal. It always perplexs them till I get by.
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Old March 4th 04, 12:10 AM
Monique Y. Herman
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On 2004-03-03, penned:
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:50:37 GMT, DaveWV
wrote:

When I rode the Tsali(sp?) in North Carolina way back in the early
90's they had alternating days with horses and bikes. The trails were
in pretty good shape then.

Its a good idea.

Dave

Of course here in the bay area the horse folks got all the money and
their older, plus they all collect at stables. This means they have
clout and the ability to work as a group.

Now mountain bikers tend to be your, don't vote, and are scattered all
over the place, so no clout.


I asked around and was pointed to the following for the Boulder, CO
area:

http://www.boa-mtb.org/

I've emailed back and forth with these guys a bit now, and they seem to
be legit. So I think I'm going to make myself a member and try to get
involved in the political (ick) side.

Perhaps there's something similar in your area?

I always tell people that I wouldn't ride illegal trails if they made
them legal. It always perplexs them till I get by.


Works for the short-term, but in the long-term, you're just contributing
to the belief that all mountain bikers are self-centered, abusive jerks.

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monique
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Old March 4th 04, 04:31 AM
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:10:18 -0700, "Monique Y. Herman"
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Now mountain bikers tend to be your, don't vote, and are scattered all
over the place, so no clout.


I asked around and was pointed to the following for the Boulder, CO
area:

http://www.boa-mtb.org/

I've emailed back and forth with these guys a bit now, and they seem to
be legit. So I think I'm going to make myself a member and try to get
involved in the political (ick) side.

Perhaps there's something similar in your area?


Good for you, get involved. I joined a group in my area in Marin Co,
CA. I paid dues and got a newsletter that came with meeting
announcements two weeks after the meetings and they didn't seem to
have a consistent place. It wasn't a bad group or anything, but they
had a serious newsletter problem. My secondary problem was the
meetings were in a town ten miles away. So I lost interest.

I have also attended bike lane meetings in my town but they are mostly
dog and pony shows and all they want is to count your head and get
some money. Then they build a lane that ends at intersections. I told
them skip the lanes and handle the intersection problems, but they are
only interested in making bike lanes that suit families with kids that
want to go for Sunday afternoon rides.

Then I went to meetings in town to build trails and improve trails,
when I mentioned that I had no problem with helping them with hiking
trails, but also was interested in bike trails, they said let's just
deal with trails right now. So I only went to two meetings when I saw
where that was headed.

I have done bargaining for unions on contracts, for peoples jobs, and
various other issues, compromise is the name of the day. The meetings
I've been to on bikes weren't going anywhere and I asked myself a
question do I want to ride or spend my time trying to open up trails.
Screw bureacracy, ride!


 




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