MTB randonneur

Perhaps this was approached from the wrong
angle, if one desires wide tires, perhaps one
should get a 28" MTB steel frame and only have
the gear loaded the same way?

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Perhaps this was approached from the wrong
angle, if one desires wide tires, perhaps one
should get a 28" MTB steel frame and only have
the gear loaded the same way?

Or 27.5", whatever.

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On 6/3/2018 12:20 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Perhaps this was approached from the wrong
angle, if one desires wide tires, perhaps one
should get a 28" MTB steel frame and only have
the gear loaded the same way?


Some people believe, "If a little bit is good, a lot is even
better!"

If you are among them, why stop at a puny runt of a 28" wheel?

http://blog.truebikes.eu/wp-content/...-copertina.jpg



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Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

AMuzi wrote:

Some people believe, "If a little bit is
good, a lot is even better!"

If you are among them, why stop at a puny
runt of a 28" wheel?

http://blog.truebikes.eu/wp-content/...-copertina.jpg

OK. Do you have smaller chainrings on that to
compensate for the wheel circumference, like
with the small wheelers, only the other
way around?

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On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 12:35:12 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/3/2018 12:20 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Perhaps this was approached from the wrong
angle, if one desires wide tires, perhaps one
should get a 28" MTB steel frame and only have
the gear loaded the same way?


Some people believe, "If a little bit is good, a lot is even
better!"

If you are among them, why stop at a puny runt of a 28" wheel?

http://blog.truebikes.eu/wp-content/...-copertina.jpg

How wide a tire do you need?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGGlODF7_RY (3:05)
Anything worth doing, is also worth overdoing.

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Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

How wide a tire do you need?

I don't need especially wide tires. Just not 32
and preferably wider than 35. Shooting from the
holster, I'd say my prefered tire size is
622-40, 622-42, or 622-47.

But this is me just projecting the project
based on my general experience and what
I've read. I never did any randonneuring
whatsoever on any bike!

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On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 20:06:31 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

How wide a tire do you need?

I don't need especially wide tires. Just not 32
and preferably wider than 35. Shooting from the
holster, I'd say my prefered tire size is
622-40, 622-42, or 622-47.

Methinks they are the same as 28x1.50, 28x1.60, and 28x1.75.
Looking at Schwalbe touring tires, they're available in those sizes in
a variety of tread patterns.
https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires

Perhaps custom rims might be a solution. Something like this:
http://www.spontaneousfire.com/trikeofdeath.htm
For normal riding, you only install one tire on the extra wide rim.
For heavy loads or touring, you install two tires. This arrangement
might also provide useful redundancy in the event you get a flat tire.
I think 3 side by side tires might be better than two. Soon, everyone
will be riding on extra wide rims and multiple tires.

But this is me just projecting the project
based on my general experience and what
I've read. I never did any randonneuring
whatsoever on any bike!

Neither have I, and it shows. However, I have done some touring and
bicycle camping in the distant past. Prior to these adventures, I did
read some books and magazine articles on touring. I then ignored most
of the advice and did what I thought best, with predictable results.

Incidentally, I also used my touring bicycle to do local service calls
in my computer repair business. At the time, computers were still too
big and heavy to be effectively transported on a bicycle. I also had
to carry several filing boxes full of floppy disks and a mess of
tools. Leaving anything on a parked bicycle was a security problem. I
might try it again as the computers are much smaller today and all the
software I need are now on about five USB flash drives.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

I don't need especially wide tires. Just not
32 and preferably wider than 35.
Shooting from the holster, I'd say my
prefered tire size is 622-40, 622-42, or
622-47.

Methinks they are the same as 28x1.50,
28x1.60, and 28x1.75.

I think you are right:

47-622 28 x 1.75 x 2
47-622 28 x 1-5/8 x 1-3/4 700x45C 28x1.75
47-622 27 x 1.75 700x45C
42-622 28 x 1-5/8 700x40C
40-622 28 x 1-5/8 x 1-1/2 700x38C

These digits BTW are simply what I have found
on tires so there is no attempt at normalizing
the English sizes. It seems sometimes they say
1-3/4 and sometimes 1.75.

I also have these:

37-622 28 x 15/8 x 13/8 700x35C
32-622 28 x 14/8 x 10/8

Perhaps just lack of
standardization/normalization behind those
"more than 8 eights" fractions...? Some of the
decimals seem to be unexpressable (cleanly) as
eights or sixteenths tho?

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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 12:35:12 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/3/2018 12:20 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Perhaps this was approached from the wrong
angle, if one desires wide tires, perhaps one
should get a 28" MTB steel frame and only have
the gear loaded the same way?


Some people believe, "If a little bit is good, a lot is even
better!"

If you are among them, why stop at a puny runt of a 28" wheel?

http://blog.truebikes.eu/wp-content/...-copertina.jpg

How wide a tire do you need?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGGlODF7_RY (3:05)
Anything worth doing, is also worth overdoing.


Brilliant rim and drivetrain design, but it seems to disprove the "big
wheels/wide tires have less rolling resistance" hypothesis.

On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 12:20:19 PM UTC-5, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Perhaps this was approached from the wrong
angle, if one desires wide tires, perhaps one
should get a 28" MTB steel frame and only have
the gear loaded the same way?

--
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Stop using the word "randonneur". As for wanting wide tires, which seems to be your only goal. That is easy. With the advent of 29", 700C mountain bikes, there are many wide bike tires for every wheel size. You can get many 26" or 700C bikes that will accommodate 1.9" or 2.1" wide tires. That is 48 and 53 mm wide. I'm guessing there are slightly skinnier 700C tires available too.