Blue railway signals?

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 07:06:28 +0000, The Natural Idiot blathered again:

Since when were Northern European men decent?* :-)

Since they put on clothes to keep the ice and snow out?

Since they stopped falling for the silliest baits some brain damaged troll
sets out for them, The Natural Idiot? BG

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 01:07:11 GMT, "Kristy Ogilvie"
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 00:40:37 -0000, Rod Speed



is a xposting troll.
PDNFTT


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"Kristy Ogilvie" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 00:40:37 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 14/12/2018 11:33, Nightjar wrote:
On 14/12/2018 09:27, Rod Speed wrote:
Nightjar wrote
Fred Johnson wrote

I wonder why the red is at the bottom on rail lights and the top on
traffic lights?

On railways it is at the bottom so that there is no light shade below
it, on which snow could build up and obscure the light.

So why didn't that continue with street lights ?

Perhaps the American who invented them hadn't thought about that
problem.
Overground railway light signals were not standardised until rather
later - in 1924.

I have never seen a set of road traffic lights obscured by built-up
snow,
not even during the worst of UK blizzards. Has anyone else?

https://www.google.com/search=traffi...+snow&tbm=inch

How did you manage to misspell isch as inch as part of a URL?

The stupid spell checker keeps defaulting to change instead of ignore
and its easy to not notice that when ignoring what it whines about.

Did your spellchecker treat it as a word?

Corse any spell checker has to.

The worrying thing is my brain immediately spotted inch as incorrect for a
google search parameter.

You should do the decent thing and disembowel yourself.

You also omitted ?q after the word search. You can't insert parameters
without a ? to indicate them.

I inserted nothing.

Interesting that it mostly appears to be driven show forming a disc
over the entire lens rather than a pile that eventually gets high
enough to obscure the top one, sitting on the visor of a lower one.

Because vertically falling snow with no wind can't get to the lower
visors, due to the upper visors getting in the way. It has to be snow on
a windy day.

There is **** all snow without any wind.

Also interesting those are all in the USA, although I guess they get more
snow than the UK.

Guess again.

Or maybe our lights are more slippery?

Unlikely.

"Kristy Ogilvie" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 00:55:55 -0000, Rod Speed
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"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 23:43:41 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 23:12:50 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:03:57 -0000, Mike Humphrey
wrote:

Fred Johnson wrote:

Can anybody else remember blue traffic lights on railways? Can't
find
any evidence on google. I'm sure whereas cars have
red/amber/green,
railways always had a 4th blue light. What does it mean and why
has
it
disappeared from Google?

Railway signals in modern times have always had red, yellow (not
amber)

I've never been fussy enough to even notice the difference between
yellow,
amber, orange. I could tell the difference if they were side by
side,
but
I just think of a road traffic light as either yellow or orange. I
couldn't even tell you what amber colour is compared to yellow and
orange.
I don't do things like "mauve", etc. Just purple, light purple,
etc.

and green. A four-aspect signal has two yellows - the sequence
approaching a stop signal goes G, YY, Y, R. There can be a number
of
other indications as well as the main signal but these are almost
invariably white.

I assume this is to allow trains the longer stopping distance they
require
than road vehicles.

There's a number of uses for blue and purple, but not appearing
with
the
R/Y/G "traffic light" signals, at least in the UK.

I might be thinking of non "traffic light" signals, or I might be
thinking
of a light which was off and was just seeing the blue lens which had
a
yellow light behind to make green.

If you want to look
at the full range of signs and signals, http://www.railsigns.uk/
has
a
very comprehensive guide.

That's a lot for a driver to remember! At least with road signs the
symbol is meaningful.

I wonder why the red is at the bottom on rail lights and the top on
traffic lights?

Basically because when there are two ways of doing
something, you can be sure someone will do it both ways.

Like my bloody French car which has the wiper switch going down to
increase speed.

And with light and power switches in houses etc.

Down should always be on

The yanks feel otherwise.

The yanks don't think at all.

I said feel, not think, stupid.

(except two or more way switches of course).

And then some bugger shows up who decides to do
them sideways so there is no confusion at all, and we
end up with 4 different ways of doing it instead of just 2.

Never seen a sideways lightswitch in a house.

But you do see it with power switches.

Not here.

There is completely irrelevant.

They're similar to light switches, although more rugged as they switch a
higher current.

Anyway with automatic ones, there are no switches.

There are in mine.

A couple of mine have manual overrides, my bedroom for example is normally
on a 15 second timer, so it goes off just after I get into bed, but
sometimes I press the switch to leave it on if I'm doing something else in
there. And don't go inserting rude things!

Nothing rude about ****ing, wanking or even
changing the sheets or untangling the blankets
or cleaning up after you have ****ed the bed again.

But most of them are auto only.

None of mine are.

I can always make them come on when it's light by covering the sensor
momentarily.

Me too.

And with whether hot and cold taps have the
hot one on the right of the pair or the left.

I can never remember which way round mine are, until I go to use one.
Because when I use one in another house that's the other way round, I
always get it wrong.

Never had any other car that way round.

Yeah, the frogs are much worse for that than most.

They even speak backwards, putting the noun before the adjective.

And some buggers even write backwards.

Muslims.

And some write upside down.

Like I said, whenever there is more than one way to do it,
you can be sure some will do it one way and some the other.

Yes, there are always morons.

And ******s like you.

Every time I try to turn on the wipers, I'm pushing it the wrong way.
One day I'll snap it off.

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 22:02:40 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Yes, there are always morons.

And ******s like you.

Not to forget troll-feeding senile idiots like you that like to suck off the
******!

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 21:55:01 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two prize idiots' usual idiotic drivel unread

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On 14/12/2018 11:45, JNugent wrote:
On 14/12/2018 11:33, Nightjar wrote:
On 14/12/2018 09:27, Rod Speed wrote:
Nightjar wrote
Fred Johnson wrote

I wonder why the red is at the bottom on rail lights and the top on
traffic lights?

On railways it is at the bottom so that there is no light shade
below it, on which snow could build up and obscure the light.

So why didn't that continue with street lights ?

Perhaps the American who invented them hadn't thought about that
problem. Overground railway light signals were not standardised until
rather later - in 1924.

I have never seen a set of road traffic lights obscured by built-up
snow, not even during the worst of UK blizzards. Has anyone else?

I don't know whether it was actually a problem on the railways, or
simply something that it was thought a good idea to take precautions
against.

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Colin Bignell

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 11:02:40 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Kristy Ogilvie" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 00:55:55 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 23:43:41 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 23:12:50 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:03:57 -0000, Mike Humphrey
wrote:

Fred Johnson wrote:

Can anybody else remember blue traffic lights on railways? Can't
find
any evidence on google. I'm sure whereas cars have
red/amber/green,
railways always had a 4th blue light. What does it mean and why
has
it
disappeared from Google?

Railway signals in modern times have always had red, yellow (not
amber)

I've never been fussy enough to even notice the difference between
yellow,
amber, orange. I could tell the difference if they were side by
side,
but
I just think of a road traffic light as either yellow or orange. I
couldn't even tell you what amber colour is compared to yellow and
orange.
I don't do things like "mauve", etc. Just purple, light purple,
etc.

and green. A four-aspect signal has two yellows - the sequence
approaching a stop signal goes G, YY, Y, R. There can be a number
of
other indications as well as the main signal but these are almost
invariably white.

I assume this is to allow trains the longer stopping distance they
require
than road vehicles.

There's a number of uses for blue and purple, but not appearing
with
the
R/Y/G "traffic light" signals, at least in the UK.

I might be thinking of non "traffic light" signals, or I might be
thinking
of a light which was off and was just seeing the blue lens which had
a
yellow light behind to make green.

If you want to look
at the full range of signs and signals, http://www.railsigns.uk/
has
a
very comprehensive guide.

That's a lot for a driver to remember! At least with road signs the
symbol is meaningful.

I wonder why the red is at the bottom on rail lights and the top on
traffic lights?

Basically because when there are two ways of doing
something, you can be sure someone will do it both ways.

Like my bloody French car which has the wiper switch going down to
increase speed.

And with light and power switches in houses etc.

Down should always be on

The yanks feel otherwise.

The yanks don't think at all.

I said feel, not think, stupid.

But you meant think, or should have done. Deciding on a switch mechanism involve thinking, not emotions.

(except two or more way switches of course).

And then some bugger shows up who decides to do
them sideways so there is no confusion at all, and we
end up with 4 different ways of doing it instead of just 2.

Never seen a sideways lightswitch in a house.

But you do see it with power switches.

Not here.

There is completely irrelevant.

We are the centre of the world. Most countries were colonised by us, we have the 0 GMT point, we invented the language most people use, etc.

They're similar to light switches, although more rugged as they switch a
higher current.

Anyway with automatic ones, there are no switches.

There are in mine.

A couple of mine have manual overrides, my bedroom for example is normally
on a 15 second timer, so it goes off just after I get into bed, but
sometimes I press the switch to leave it on if I'm doing something else in
there. And don't go inserting rude things!

Nothing rude about ****ing, wanking or even
changing the sheets or untangling the blankets
or cleaning up after you have ****ed the bed again.

If you were closer I'd spank you for saying those things.

But most of them are auto only.

None of mine are.

I don't see the point in manual override in most rooms.

I can always make them come on when it's light by covering the sensor
momentarily.

Me too.

I'm surprised so few people have auto lights.

And with whether hot and cold taps have the
hot one on the right of the pair or the left.

I can never remember which way round mine are, until I go to use one.
Because when I use one in another house that's the other way round, I
always get it wrong.

Never had any other car that way round.

Yeah, the frogs are much worse for that than most.

They even speak backwards, putting the noun before the adjective.

And some buggers even write backwards.

Muslims.

And some write upside down.

Who?

Like I said, whenever there is more than one way to do it,
you can be sure some will do it one way and some the other.

Yes, there are always morons.

And ******s like you.

That would imply deliberately mis-designing your own product.

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 10:33:25 -0000, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 01:07:11 GMT, "Kristy Ogilvie"
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 00:40:37 -0000, Rod Speed

is a xposting troll.

What have trolling and crossposting to do with each other?

PDNFTT

Bless you.

Kristy Ogilvie wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 11:02:40 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:


"Kristy Ogilvie" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 00:55:55 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 23:43:41 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 23:12:50 -0000, Rod Speed

wrote:



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
news On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 21:03:57 -0000, Mike Humphrey
wrote:

Fred Johnson wrote:

Can anybody else remember blue traffic lights on railways? Can't
find
any evidence on google. I'm sure whereas cars have
red/amber/green,
railways always had a 4th blue light. What does it mean
and why has
it
disappeared from Google?

Railway signals in modern times have always had red, yellow
(not amber)

I've never been fussy enough to even notice the difference
between yellow,
amber, orange. I could tell the difference if they were side
by side,
but
I just think of a road traffic light as either yellow or
orange. I couldn't even tell you what amber colour is
compared to yellow and orange.
I don't do things like "mauve", etc. Just purple, light
purple, etc.

and green. A four-aspect signal has two yellows - the
sequence approaching a stop signal goes G, YY, Y, R. There
can be a number of
other indications as well as the main signal but these are
almost invariably white.

I assume this is to allow trains the longer stopping distance
they require
than road vehicles.

There's a number of uses for blue and purple, but not
appearing with
the
R/Y/G "traffic light" signals, at least in the UK.

I might be thinking of non "traffic light" signals, or I
might be thinking
of a light which was off and was just seeing the blue lens
which had a
yellow light behind to make green.

If you want to look
at the full range of signs and signals,
http://www.railsigns.uk/ has
a
very comprehensive guide.

That's a lot for a driver to remember! At least with road
signs the symbol is meaningful.

I wonder why the red is at the bottom on rail lights and the
top on traffic lights?

Basically because when there are two ways of doing
something, you can be sure someone will do it both ways.

Like my bloody French car which has the wiper switch going down
to increase speed.

And with light and power switches in houses etc.

Down should always be on

The yanks feel otherwise.

The yanks don't think at all.

I said feel, not think, stupid.

But you meant think, or should have done. Deciding on a switch
mechanism involve thinking, not emotions.
(except two or more way switches of course).

And then some bugger shows up who decides to do
them sideways so there is no confusion at all, and we
end up with 4 different ways of doing it instead of just 2.

Never seen a sideways lightswitch in a house.

But you do see it with power switches.

Not here.

There is completely irrelevant.

We are the centre of the world. Most countries were colonised by us,
we have the 0 GMT point, we invented the language most people use,
etc.
They're similar to light switches, although more rugged as they
switch a higher current.

Anyway with automatic ones, there are no switches.

There are in mine.

A couple of mine have manual overrides, my bedroom for example is
normally on a 15 second timer, so it goes off just after I get into
bed, but sometimes I press the switch to leave it on if I'm doing
something else in there. And don't go inserting rude things!

Nothing rude about ****ing, wanking or even
changing the sheets or untangling the blankets
or cleaning up after you have ****ed the bed again.

If you were closer I'd spank you for saying those things.

But most of them are auto only.

None of mine are.

I don't see the point in manual override in most rooms.

I can always make them come on when it's light by covering the
sensor momentarily.

Me too.

I'm surprised so few people have auto lights.

And with whether hot and cold taps have the
hot one on the right of the pair or the left.

I can never remember which way round mine are, until I go to use
one. Because when I use one in another house that's the other way
round, I always get it wrong.

Never had any other car that way round.

Yeah, the frogs are much worse for that than most.

They even speak backwards, putting the noun before the adjective.

And some buggers even write backwards.

Muslims.

And some write upside down.

Who?

Like I said, whenever there is more than one way to do it,
you can be sure some will do it one way and some the other.

Yes, there are always morons.

And ******s like you.

That would imply deliberately mis-designing your own product.

**** off Hucker.