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Old April 27th 17, 06:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...426-story.html

Hey let's paint some stripes and call it infrastructure!
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Old April 27th 17, 07:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:09:16 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...426-story.html

Hey let's paint some stripes and call it infrastructure!
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Don't ride in the door zone and the chances of getting doored are much less.. If a law says you have to ride in the bike lane but that bike lane is in the door zone (as many here are) the ride in the traffic lane and tell the city planners thatthose bike lanes in the dooor zone are a hazard to bicyclists.

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Old April 27th 17, 09:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 4/27/2017 1:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...426-story.html


Hey let's paint some stripes and call it infrastructure!


Chicago is a bit infamous in certain circles for its bike lane design
guide's magic. It showed how to fit two motor vehicle lanes, two parked
car lanes and two five-foot bike lanes into a 44' wide street, with
plenty of room for all! Just see the illustration on page 9 of
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us.../bike_lane.pdf

The magic? All the designer has to do is reduce the scale of the cars
so they're about five feet wide. Presto! Lots of room!

For the record, a door of a parked vehicle can extend as much as ten
feet from the curb. See
http://www.bikexprt.com/bikepol/faci.../doorwidth.htm

(BTW, I don't know why the first URL says "cleveland" instead of "chicago.")

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Old April 28th 17, 01:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 4:53:51 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/27/2017 1:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...426-story.html


Hey let's paint some stripes and call it infrastructure!


Chicago is a bit infamous in certain circles for its bike lane design
guide's magic. It showed how to fit two motor vehicle lanes, two parked
car lanes and two five-foot bike lanes into a 44' wide street, with
plenty of room for all! Just see the illustration on page 9 of
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us.../bike_lane.pdf

The magic? All the designer has to do is reduce the scale of the cars
so they're about five feet wide. Presto! Lots of room!

For the record, a door of a parked vehicle can extend as much as ten
feet from the curb. See
http://www.bikexprt.com/bikepol/faci.../doorwidth.htm

(BTW, I don't know why the first URL says "cleveland" instead of "chicago.")

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- Frank Krygowski


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPA-ZcYGT94

"Door Zone Avoidance"
"Published on May 31, 2012


Parking lot demonstration of why we avoid the door zone on a bicycle"

Cheers
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Old April 28th 17, 02:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 5:12:24 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 4:53:51 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/27/2017 1:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...426-story.html


Hey let's paint some stripes and call it infrastructure!


Chicago is a bit infamous in certain circles for its bike lane design
guide's magic. It showed how to fit two motor vehicle lanes, two parked
car lanes and two five-foot bike lanes into a 44' wide street, with
plenty of room for all! Just see the illustration on page 9 of
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us.../bike_lane.pdf

The magic? All the designer has to do is reduce the scale of the cars
so they're about five feet wide. Presto! Lots of room!

For the record, a door of a parked vehicle can extend as much as ten
feet from the curb. See
http://www.bikexprt.com/bikepol/faci.../doorwidth.htm

(BTW, I don't know why the first URL says "cleveland" instead of "chicago.")

--
- Frank Krygowski


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPA-ZcYGT94

"Door Zone Avoidance"
"Published on May 31, 2012


Parking lot demonstration of why we avoid the door zone on a bicycle"

Cheers


In heavy traffic I use a different strategy. I ride so close to the car that I will just miss the mirror. If some dip**** throws the door open I will nail him as he steps out. It works VERY well after you scare hell out of a few dumbass women.
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Old April 28th 17, 05:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 4/27/2017 4:53 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/27/2017 1:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...426-story.html


Hey let's paint some stripes and call it infrastructure!


Chicago is a bit infamous in certain circles for its bike lane design
guide's magic. It showed how to fit two motor vehicle lanes, two parked
car lanes and two five-foot bike lanes into a 44' wide street, with
plenty of room for all! Just see the illustration on page 9 of
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us.../bike_lane.pdf

The magic? All the designer has to do is reduce the scale of the cars
so they're about five feet wide. Presto! Lots of room!

For the record, a door of a parked vehicle can extend as much as ten
feet from the curb. See
http://www.bikexprt.com/bikepol/faci.../doorwidth.htm

(BTW, I don't know why the first URL says "cleveland" instead of
"chicago.")


BTW, here's John Allen's analysis of the dishonest design manual
drawing. Note that you can click to see the plan redrawn with cars
accurately scaled.

http://truewheelers.org/comments/laneguide/


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