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Do bicycles and cars mix?
"Keith F. Lynch" wrote:
So why did Virginia raise sales taxes by 12% a few years ago? DTJ wrote: I wonder how they figured it to be 12%? They didn't call it that. It was an increase from 4% to 4.5%. They called it a half percent increase. I called it a twelve and a half percent increase. The subsequent proposed 22% increase, 4.5% to 5.5%, they called a "penny tax". I was tempted to go to city hall, hand them a penny, and tell them that now that I've paid my tax in full, I never want to hear from them again. Homewood school district tried to more than triple taxes a few years ago. They claimed it was only a 3% raise. They neglected to tell you that was on top of the already 1.5% tax rate, and the new total would be 4.5%. Voters weren't that stupid. Likewise in Virginia. The proposed 22% increase was defeated. -- Keith F. Lynch - - http://keithlynch.net/ I always welcome replies to my e-mail, postings, and web pages, but unsolicited bulk e-mail (spam) is not acceptable. Please do not send me HTML, "rich text," or attachments, as all such email is discarded unread. |
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"Keith F. Lynch" writes:
"Keith F. Lynch" wrote: So why did Virginia raise sales taxes by 12% a few years ago? DTJ wrote: I wonder how they figured it to be 12%? They didn't call it that. It was an increase from 4% to 4.5%. They called it a half percent increase. I called it a twelve and a half percent increase. The subsequent proposed 22% increase, 4.5% to 5.5%, they called a "penny tax". I was tempted to go to city hall, hand them a penny, and tell them that now that I've paid my tax in full, I never want to hear from them again. I can tell that you live in Virginia. I bet if it weren't for the war of northern aggression, you wouldn't hav to pay taxes at all! -- Jordan Bettis http://www.hafd.org/~jordanb C++ will do for C what Algol-68 did for Algol. -- David L. Jones |
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In misc.transport.urban-transit, Jordan Bettis
wrote in : "Keith F. Lynch" writes: "Keith F. Lynch" wrote: So why did Virginia raise sales taxes by 12% a few years ago? DTJ wrote: I wonder how they figured it to be 12%? They didn't call it that. It was an increase from 4% to 4.5%. They called it a half percent increase. I called it a twelve and a half percent increase. The subsequent proposed 22% increase, 4.5% to 5.5%, they called a "penny tax". I was tempted to go to city hall, hand them a penny, and tell them that now that I've paid my tax in full, I never want to hear from them again. I can tell that you live in Virginia. I bet if it weren't for the war of northern aggression, you wouldn't hav to pay taxes at all! Right, blame the Revolt of the Slaveholders for taxes 140 years later... |
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Rick wrote in message link.net... George, No. You are wrong. 1/3 of my house, and every house on every street on which I've lived has a garage supposedly dedicated to cars (bigger houses simply have bigger garages nearly in the same proportion in most neighborhoods, though there are some areas where the size of the house greatly exceeds this basic rule). Do you expect anyone to take you seriously? A 2,100 foot square house, the average now, would have to have about 50 or more cars to meet your criteria. |
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wrote in message hlink.net... Rick wrote in message link.net... George, No. You are wrong. 1/3 of my house, and every house on every street on which I've lived has a garage supposedly dedicated to cars (bigger houses simply have bigger garages nearly in the same proportion in most neighborhoods, though there are some areas where the size of the house greatly exceeds this basic rule). Do you expect anyone to take you seriously? A 2,100 foot square house, the average now, would have to have about 50 or more cars to meet your criteria. Might wanna recheck your math, there, Georgie. How much space is devoted to a car in the garage? Just the car, nothing else. An Explorer is 15.5 x 6. Car is only 6' wide, but you gotta open the doors. Maybe 19 x 12? 1/3 of your "average house" is 700 sq ft. 19x12 = 228 sq ft You can only fit 3 of those in that 700 sq ft. Hey, we just invented a 3 car garage! Not "50 or more". What kind of cars are YOU thinking of? Maybe something that is 8' x 5'? A 60's Mini isn't even that small. Pete |
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Dr Engelbert Buxbaum wrote:
Marc wrote: But the conservatives are white elitists. And conservatives don't seem to be environmentalists, and environmentalists don't seen to be conservative (at least the current political definition). The word conservative comes from the latin "conservare": to protect, to preserve. In that sense, an environmentalist is certainly conservative. But it has changed since then. Now, a conservative is someone against personal freedom, but for financial and corporate freedom. Marc For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy" |
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"Keith F. Lynch" wrote:
Marc wrote: "Keith F. Lynch" And passengers can read or work, rather than giving their full attention to driving. I can't do either on a train or bus. I've tried. So that's a reason to close them down for everyone, forcing everyone on the planet to either be a motorist or a recluse? In D.C., my sister was renting a place. The only way she could get an assigned spot would have been to buy it for $15,000. Then, she would have had to pay over $250 a month for parking at work. For someone wanting basic transportation, they'd have to pay as much or more to park the car than for the car itself. She could either afford a car or a place to park it, but not both. I assume she took Metro? She'd Metro one way and walk the other. Cars may be necessary in the countryside, but they're out of place in the city. They take up valuable real estate, and they travel slower than pedestrians. That depends on your definition of "city." Houston, Dallas, L.A., San Diego, San Antonio, Minneapolis, Atlanta, and many others are over a million strong, but you would be hard pressed to be able to live comfortably there without having a car. NY, DC, and Boston are about the only places where large numbers of well to do people opt not to buy cars because they are unnecessary. Chicago sits on the fence (the purely downtown dwellers don't need one, but those in the suburbs do). I'm not sure of anyone that is *unable* to drive because of temperamental reasons ... Anyone who either gets angry easily, or who tends to daydream. No, they aren't literally *unable* to drive, but then neither is a blind person. They just probably won't get very far before killing someone. The daydreamers would miss their stop, the angry ones would get mad at the people on the bus. Instead of curing their problems, you are confining them in a cage with others and declaring it irrelevant. If you don't generate your own electricity, sew your own clothes, build your own house, or grow your own food, why should you drive your own vehicle? Specialization just makes sense. Well, we ought to just have our teeth removed and have some machine chew our food for us as well. Teeth don't require training for use. Or government licensing. Or a large upfront capital expenditure. Teeth don't kill tens of thousands of Americans every year. The question was about specialization. It was not about training. It was not about licensing. It was not about cost. It was not about safety. Just because it can be automated or outsourced does not mean it is a good idea to do so. Just because you can do it yourself doesn't mean it's a good idea to force everyone else to do it themselves. I'm not talking about forcing anyone to do anything. You appear to be the only one with that in mind. (Yes, I know what Heinlein said. It's good to be *able* to drive a car, swim, send morse code, survive in the wilderness, fly a plane, repair a CD player, etc, but unless that's your profession or a hobby you enjoy, why do it every day?) But what if driving is your hobby? You are posting to a driving group. I'm posting to a transit group. I'm not the one who started crossposting this thread. You are posting to a driving group. You may be posting from a transit group, but you are most certainly posting to a driving group. If you can't read your own headers, you are way beyond help. What if driving is your hobby? Then drive, if you can do so safely, bearing the full costs. But don't try to force everyone else to drive. That's what this is all about. I'm not telling anyone not to drive. I'm asking them not to tell me to drive. Maybe bus riding, train riding, walking, and cycling are *my* hobbies. Again, you are the only one bringing up forcing others to your will. With the current system, you have choices. You can take public transport. You can go under your own power. You can pilot your own vehicle. You can ride with others in a non-comercial manner, or you could solicit a ride from a commercial entity. That is a lot of choices. Aside from comments regarding funding, no one, other than you, has mentioned forcing anyone to do anything. I'd prefer that there was no government money in transportation at all. But as long as there is, every mode ought to get its fair share. If anything, there should be preference for modes which kill fewer people, which pollute less, which are usable by people with medical or financial problems, which take up less valuable urban real estate, and which don't require "internal passports". Are you implying that cars paying for 100% of their costs and 75% of the costs for mass transit is "fair share" because you see more value in mass transit? If there isn't the value in mass transit, the massive leaching from other revenue sources to sustain the non-viable system doesn't seem to be "fair." Marc For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy" |
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Thanks for doing the math, Pete. I was pretty certain that George would lack
the ability to do so. Of course, since I am screening everything he is posting, I wasn't going to help him with this, either. Rick PS: My garage is more than 700 sq. ft. in a 1800 sq. ft. house. While it can hold 2 cars and stuff, its primary intention was to store cars. That it doesn't do so is a sad claim to past consumerism, thoug it does protect my bikes, now. "Pete" wrote in message ... wrote in message hlink.net... Rick wrote in message link.net... George, No. You are wrong. 1/3 of my house, and every house on every street on which I've lived has a garage supposedly dedicated to cars (bigger houses simply have bigger garages nearly in the same proportion in most neighborhoods, though there are some areas where the size of the house greatly exceeds this basic rule). Do you expect anyone to take you seriously? A 2,100 foot square house, the average now, would have to have about 50 or more cars to meet your criteria. Might wanna recheck your math, there, Georgie. How much space is devoted to a car in the garage? Just the car, nothing else. An Explorer is 15.5 x 6. Car is only 6' wide, but you gotta open the doors. Maybe 19 x 12? 1/3 of your "average house" is 700 sq ft. 19x12 = 228 sq ft You can only fit 3 of those in that 700 sq ft. Hey, we just invented a 3 car garage! Not "50 or more". What kind of cars are YOU thinking of? Maybe something that is 8' x 5'? A 60's Mini isn't even that small. Pete |
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Tanya Quinn wrote in message om... wrote in message thlink.net... Rick wrote in message link.net... George, No. You are wrong. 1/3 of my house, and every house on every street on which I've lived has a garage supposedly dedicated to cars (bigger houses simply have bigger garages nearly in the same proportion in most neighborhoods, though there are some areas where the size of the house greatly exceeds this basic rule). Do you expect anyone to take you seriously? A 2,100 foot square house, the average now, would have to have about 50 or more cars to meet your criteria. It is not square footage that matters since a lot is never filled by building anyway, but the size of the lots determine how many houses you can put in any given area. If a house has 60' frontage (typical suburban lot) and 20' of the frontage is taken up by an attached double car garage then 1/3 of the space is effectively dedicated to cars. A typical suburban lot (R10) is about 12,000 sqare feet. A car takes up 60-100 square feet. What about 120 on your lot? |
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