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Old January 3rd 19, 12:14 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/

- Frank Krygowski
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Old January 3rd 19, 03:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B. Slocomb
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 18:14:12 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/

- Frank Krygowski


Come on Frank, you know the answer... Because bicycling is soooo
dangerous that one has to wear safety equipment to participate.
:-)

cheers,

John B.


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Old January 3rd 19, 03:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 3/1/19 10:14 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/



There are some people who claim our MHL didn't (and doesn't) dissuade
people from riding. No doubt there are confounding factors when people
try to find a causal link between MHL and bicycle use.

Fuel prices are well known to be a driving factor in public transport
use, for example.

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Old January 3rd 19, 04:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:55:08 +1100, James
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On 3/1/19 10:14 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/



There are some people who claim our MHL didn't (and doesn't) dissuade
people from riding. No doubt there are confounding factors when people
try to find a causal link between MHL and bicycle use.

Fuel prices are well known to be a driving factor in public transport
use, for example.


I've always though that the various reasons for not riding a bicycle
were just excuses not really "reasons". Ohhh it gets my hair all
messy" when the same person will go to the beach and jump in the water
and call it fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIOX_eo7VU

cheers,

John B.


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Old January 3rd 19, 05:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
James[_8_]
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On 3/1/19 2:22 pm, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 13:55:08 +1100, James
wrote:

On 3/1/19 10:14 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/



There are some people who claim our MHL didn't (and doesn't) dissuade
people from riding. No doubt there are confounding factors when people
try to find a causal link between MHL and bicycle use.

Fuel prices are well known to be a driving factor in public transport
use, for example.


I've always though that the various reasons for not riding a bicycle
were just excuses not really "reasons". Ohhh it gets my hair all
messy" when the same person will go to the beach and jump in the water
and call it fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIOX_eo7VU


Maybe if there was a swimming pool at the end of each bicycle ride???


Hmm.


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Old January 3rd 19, 05:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joy Beeson
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 10:22:52 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

I've always though that the various reasons for not riding a bicycle
were just excuses not really "reasons". Ohhh it gets my hair all
messy" when the same person will go to the beach and jump in the water
and call it fun.


What baffles me is that people think they *need* excuses. I never
gave anybody an excuse for disliking spectator sports.

Well, when I was in college I once said that the reason I had to go
back to the dorm was that my feet were cold. I probably wouldn't have
noticed that they were cold if I hadn't been so *bored*.

But I never said "Oh, I love to watch football games, but I haven't
got snow boots, so I never go."


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Old January 3rd 19, 05:56 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B. Slocomb
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2019 23:28:58 -0500, Joy Beeson
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 10:22:52 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

I've always though that the various reasons for not riding a bicycle
were just excuses not really "reasons". Ohhh it gets my hair all
messy" when the same person will go to the beach and jump in the water
and call it fun.


What baffles me is that people think they *need* excuses. I never
gave anybody an excuse for disliking spectator sports.


Probably because it is, at times, either not polite or (in the U.S.
notably) not politically acceptable to say what one actually thinks.
Comedians even make jokes about "questions you should never ask your
spouse". If one's wife should ask, "do you think these pants make my
butt look too big?" most husbands have learned not to say "YES!"


Well, when I was in college I once said that the reason I had to go
back to the dorm was that my feet were cold. I probably wouldn't have
noticed that they were cold if I hadn't been so *bored*.

But I never said "Oh, I love to watch football games, but I haven't
got snow boots, so I never go."


cheers,

John B.


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Old January 3rd 19, 12:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Roger Merriman[_4_]
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/

- Frank Krygowski


How well connected are they? My commute to work has some fairly old and
narrow cycle paths built alongside the by pass, most of the time I don’t
see another cyclist as for most part. It makes sense for me but very few
others.

Yet closer to home routes that are much better connected are unsurprisingly
much busier.

Roger Merriman

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Old January 3rd 19, 12:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane[_4_]
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James wrote:
On 3/1/19 10:14 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/




There are some people who claim our MHL didn't (and doesn't) dissuade
people from riding. No doubt there are confounding factors when people
try to find a causal link between MHL and bicycle use.

Fuel prices are well known to be a driving factor in public transport
use, for example.


I doubt you can tell much by country wide stats. It even differs by area
in the same city.
I know here in Montreal the numbers are increasing, especially in the urban
areas. The bike paths are full. Whether or not they’re safe is a
different question.

I live in the suburbs and commute to town. There are fewer people doing
this. For some, it’s the distance. For others it is definitely the lack
of infrastructure. The lack of lockers, showers and safe bike storage on
the job also enter into it.

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Old January 3rd 19, 02:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane[_2_]
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On 03/01/2019 6:44 a.m., Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 3/1/19 10:14 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/2319972002/




There are some people who claim our MHL didn't (and doesn't) dissuade
people from riding. No doubt there are confounding factors when people
try to find a causal link between MHL and bicycle use.

Fuel prices are well known to be a driving factor in public transport
use, for example.


I doubt you can tell much by country wide stats. It even differs by area
in the same city.
I know here in Montreal the numbers are increasing, especially in the urban
areas. The bike paths are full. Whether or not they’re safe is a
different question.

I live in the suburbs and commute to town. There are fewer people doing
this. For some, it’s the distance. For others it is definitely the lack
of infrastructure. The lack of lockers, showers and safe bike storage on
the job also enter into it.


That said, we had freezing rain yesterday and the temperature dropped to
-16C. This morning it was snowing with some accumulation. I saw 2
riders on fat bikes commuting from my neighborhood and another couple on
my way in.
 




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