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Perth has a decent network of shared paths around the river and throughtout
the metro area..... These are suppsoed to be used for riding, walking, running etc...NOT STANDING IN BIG GROUPS SOCIALISING OR HAVING A PARTY PEOPLE!!!!! Pull your heads in and realise that when a bike hits you whether it is doing 40 or 10 kms it will still hurt you...... People of Perth WAKE UP!!!!!! The people myself and a friend had a run in with today said we had ruined their party......little do they realise that if it wasn't for our riding abilities their party could have been much worse... |
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"Wayne & Mimma" wrote
The people myself and a friend had a run in with today said we had ruined their party......little do they realise that if it wasn't for our riding abilities their party could have been much worse... More details.. what happened? hippy |
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"Wayne & Mimma" wrote in message
... Perth has a decent network of shared paths around the river and throughtout the metro area..... These are suppsoed to be used for riding, walking, running etc...NOT STANDING IN BIG GROUPS SOCIALISING OR HAVING A PARTY PEOPLE!!!!! Pull your heads in and realise that when a bike hits you whether it is doing 40 or 10 kms it will still hurt you...... People of Perth WAKE UP!!!!!! The people myself and a friend had a run in with today said we had ruined their party......little do they realise that if it wasn't for our riding abilities their party could have been much worse... Wayne & Mimma I agree 1000% with you, but surly you need to be telling the people of Perth in another forum as you are preaching to the converted here - we all cycle. regards Andrew |
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Wayne & Mimma Wrote: Perth has a decent network of shared paths around the river an throughtou the metro area.... These are suppsoed to be used for riding, walking, running etc...NO STANDING IN BIG GROUPS SOCIALISING OR HAVING A PARTY PEOPLE!!!! Pull your heads in and realise that when a bike hits you whether it i doin 40 or 10 kms it will still hurt you..... People of Perth WAKE UP!!!!! The people myself and a friend had a run in with today said we ha ruine their party......little do they realise that if it wasn't for ou ridin abilities their party could have been much worse... Behaviour on Perth shared paths around the river is generally better o commuter days than on the weekend when lots of people get out fo barbecues and wander apparently aimlessly through the parks beside th river, including over/along/across bike paths However, after numerous near misses and a few 'discussions with th clueless', I have come to the conclusion that many of them do not kno that it is a shared path. Signage exists mainly at the ends of th paths, there is little marking on the bitumen of the path itself, an no or very few signs along the length of the path. Many of thes people wander from their cars across the lawns towards the river, neve having seen any sign that the strip of bitumen they see before them i used by cyclists I get ****ed off with them, but I am thinking that the solution may b better information through more signage. Might be time for a campaig of email to the Perth City Council. I'm sure they would appreciat being reminded of their potential public liability exposure if they d not improve things. Not just from a pedestrian who was injured. If cyclist hit a ped and was hurt because the ped was not adequatel informed of the danger of the shared path and was standing aimlessly o it, there could be enough damages to pay for a nice new carbon fibr frame and some new carbon wheels (hm........know anyone who'd b prepared to stand on a bike path and take a little bump? -- SteveA |
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Perth has a decent network of shared paths around the river and throughtout the metro area..... These are suppsoed to be used for riding, walking, running etc...NOT STANDING IN BIG GROUPS SOCIALISING OR HAVING A PARTY PEOPLE!!!!! Why are you ranting to us, the cyclists? Just accept that on a sunny weekend, you'll need to ride slower along the river foreshores. Most people will make room when they hear the bell, but there are plenty of the clueless. Fortunately, Perth has plenty of other cycleways, esp along the freeways, where you can still get a good workout. The river paths are mainly recreational, and well-shared for most of the week. 40 or 10 kms it will still hurt you...... 40km/hr along the river on a Sunday?! Cool it a little. I agree 1000% with you, but surly you need to be telling the people of Perth I hope thats a typo Andrew, or you are 9000% worse than the dumb sports jocks who give 110% :-) in another forum as you are preaching to the converted here - we all cycle. Amen. |
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"Wayne & Mimma" wrote Perth has a decent network of shared paths around the river and throughtout the metro area..... Yes Perth has a huge network of shared paths, and so as cyclists we have a huge choice. Sundays around the South Perth foreshore (which is where I am asuming this incident occurred) is not a good time to be riding on this particular section of path (especially not at 40kmph), simply because there are so many kids, families, and generally clueless people who do not regularly use these paths. Yes they are a pain, but just accept that this is where they congregate, especially on Sundays, and especially when the weather is good. So choose another path, along the freeway is always good and you can easily maintain 40kmph along here without any problems. You get a few walkers and the occasional recreational cyclist along here, but there are not many of them, and they typically are aware of other path users. "Shared path", meaning we share with others, as much as they share with us. Bjay |
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bjay Wrote: "Wayne & Mimma" wrote Perth has a decent network of shared paths around the river and throughtout the metro area..... Yes Perth has a huge network of shared paths, and so as cyclists we have a huge choice. Sundays around the South Perth foreshore (which is where I am asuming this incident occurred) is not a good time to be riding on this particular section of path (especially not at 40kmph), simply because there are so many kids, families, and generally clueless people who do not regularly use these paths. Yes they are a pain, but just accept that this is where they congregate, especially on Sundays, and especially when the weather is good. So choose another path, along the freeway is always good and you can easily maintain 40kmph along here without any problems. You get a few walkers and the occasional recreational cyclist along here, but there are not many of them, and they typically are aware of other path users. "Shared path", meaning we share with others, as much as they share with us. Bjay good signage and sadly a central line is the only real solution to this scenario IMHO -- flyingdutch |
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"flyingdutch" wrote bjay Wrote: "Wayne & Mimma" wrote Perth has a decent network of shared paths around the river and throughtout the metro area..... Yes Perth has a huge network of shared paths, and so as cyclists we have a huge choice. Sundays around the South Perth foreshore (which is where I am asuming this incident occurred) is not a good time to be riding on this particular section of path (especially not at 40kmph), simply because there are so many kids, families, and generally clueless people who do not regularly use these paths. Yes they are a pain, but just accept that this is where they congregate, especially on Sundays, and especially when the weather is good. So choose another path, along the freeway is always good and you can easily maintain 40kmph along here without any problems. You get a few walkers and the occasional recreational cyclist along here, but there are not many of them, and they typically are aware of other path users. "Shared path", meaning we share with others, as much as they share with us. Bjay good signage and sadly a central line is the only real solution to this scenario IMHO -- flyingdutch I don't think signage would make any difference on this particular section of shared path, the casual users still wouldn't notice it, and there is actually a dedicated pedestrian section of path along here as well. The point I was trying to make is that this section of the foreshore is very popular for picnicing, especially on Sundays, and it's just not worth the hassle trying to ride along here at any great speed on Sundays, especially now with the improving weather. I used to live in South Perth so had to travel this section every day, on Sunday's I had to just potter along this section because of all the kids, dogs, parents and casual users who are generally not bicycle aware. During the week this section of path isn't so bad because most of the other users are regular walkers, roller bladers and cyclists who do understand shared path rules. People who wander along or across shared paths, blissfully unaware that there are actually other people trying to use this path annoy me just as much as they would annoy other cyclists. I am just saying that we have to accept that there are certain sections of path and certain times that attract the casual user (please note casual user, ie someone who might use the path once or twice a year), who as much as we would like them to learn, IMHO will never grasp the concepts of staying left, not suddenly changing direction and not suddenly stopping! My solution is to avoid these sections at these times to avoid the hassle, but if you cannot avoid these sections at these times then you just have to accept that there is going to be alot of clueless people around at this time and to make big allowances for them (something which I think Suzy J stated in an earlier thread). I also realise that I am probably stating the obvious to most participants on this forum, and I have no desire to insult your intelligence. My reply was directed to the originator of this thread. Bjay |
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bjay Wrote: I don't think signage would make any difference on this particula section of shared path, the casual users still wouldn't notice it, and ther is actually a dedicated pedestrian section of path along here as well. The point I was trying to make is that this section of the foreshore i very popular for picnicing, especially on Sundays, and it's just not wort the hassle trying to ride along here at any great speed on Sundays especially now with the improving weather. I used to live in South Perth so ha to travel this section every day, on Sunday's I had to just potter alon this section because of all the kids, dogs, parents and casual users wh are generally not bicycle aware. During the week this section of pat isn't so bad because most of the other users are regular walkers, roller blader and cyclists who do understand shared path rules. People who wander along or across shared paths, blissfully unawar that there are actually other people trying to use this path annoy me jus as much as they would annoy other cyclists. I am just saying that we hav to accept that there are certain sections of path and certain times that attract the casual user (please note casual user, ie someone who migh use the path once or twice a year), who as much as we would like them t learn, IMHO will never grasp the concepts of staying left, not suddenl changing direction and not suddenly stopping! My solution is to avoid thes sections at these times to avoid the hassle, but if you cannot avoid thes sections at these times then you just have to accept that there is going to b alot of clueless people around at this time and to make big allowances fo them (something which I think Suzy J stated in an earlier thread). I also realise that I am probably stating the obvious to mos participants on this forum, and I have no desire to insult your intelligence. M reply was directed to the originator of this thread. Bjay Sounds like a few stretches of St Kilda Beach (DRS? Stokehouse t Marina?). Like you say, if you know its there and realise it aint wort it dont ride it. That's the beatuy of a bike. It'll go anywhere. kin of... F-"where can i get wallclimbing suction cup wheels?"- -- flyingdutch |
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I have come to the conclusion that many of them do not know
that it is a shared path. Signage exists mainly at the ends of the paths, there is little marking on the bitumen of the path itself, then take stencil and spray can and correct this problem. |
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