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Old February 19th 05, 07:21 AM
Zog The Undeniable
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...300986,00.html

Of course, the M6 is normally so congested that it was probably safer
than the pavement...
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Old February 19th 05, 07:25 AM
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"Zog The Undeniable" wrote in message
news:4216e8dd.0@entanet...
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...300986,00.html

Of course, the M6 is normally so congested that it was probably safer
than the pavement...


I saw 2 lads on BMX type bikes cycling on the M1 hard shoulder earlyish one
morning a few weeks ago, Notts or Derbys IIRC.

Pete


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Old February 19th 05, 09:21 AM
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In article , Peter B
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"Zog The Undeniable" wrote in message
news:4216e8dd.0@entanet...
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...300986,00.html

Of course, the M6 is normally so congested that it was probably safer
than the pavement...


I saw 2 lads on BMX type bikes cycling on the M1 hard shoulder earlyish one
morning a few weeks ago, Notts or Derbys IIRC.

Pete


An endearing memory from a few years ago was a gentleman of retirement
age on a very old sit-up-and-beg bicycle, raincoat billowing out behind
him, proceeding along the hard shoulder of the M4 between Langley and
Windsor.
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Old February 19th 05, 09:50 AM
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Reminds me of a frightening time, when my wife 'mistook' a turning off
of the dual carraigeway, and went down onto the M4 during a 10 mile
time trial :-| After about 2 miles she realised her mistake. The
frightening part (for the both of us) was that the Police found her
attempting to cross the motorway (to get back) gave her a massive
bollokin (acceptable, and fair enough) but then left her in a field to
make her own way back. (idiots) The rest of us were with the timekeeper
wondering where the f... she was, scouring the area, and she eventually
turned up about 2 and a half hours later. Her worst 10 time ever :-|
but alive !!

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Old February 19th 05, 10:26 AM
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:21:04 +0000, Zog The Undeniable
wrote in message 4216e8dd.0@entanet:

Of course, the M6 is normally so congested that it was probably safer
than the pavement...


Also faster, which is probably why they were so ****ed off :-)

Guy
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Old February 19th 05, 11:29 AM
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Zog The Undeniable wrote:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...300986,00.html


caution eh? Thant's nowt - should we all have a go???

Inagine the thrill.... I vaugely remember walking along the M57 from
Hyde to Denton, before it opened to traffic. The local paper had a walk
organised which we missed, sp we did it the weekend after - five parts
****ed. Quite a thing really.

Also, we did a bit of trail riding on the mud of the M60 construction
site, that was interesting too.

All pretty illegal, I would have thought.

bfn,

Tony B
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Old February 19th 05, 02:13 PM
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"Colin McKenzie" wrote in message
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I wonder how effective the ribbed white lines are at stopping sleeping
drivers wandering onto the hard shoulder.


Wake up at the back!
They're buggar-all use, hence the advice to leave your vehicle and get well
behind the barrier should you break down on a mway.

Actually cycling on a mway hard shoulder is probably one of the pastimes in
hell ;-)

Pete


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Old February 19th 05, 02:25 PM
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:21:04 +0000, Zog The Undeniable
wrote in message 4216e8dd.0@entanet:

Of course, the M6 is normally so congested that it was probably safer
than the pavement...


Also faster, which is probably why they were so ****ed off :-)


I wonder how effective the ribbed white lines are at stopping sleeping
drivers wandering onto the hard shoulder. If they work, it's arguable
that M-way hard shoulders are as safe as anymhere to ride. Rules would
be: come off and on again at every junction (including service areas);
always pass stopped vehicles on the inside, dismounting if necessary.

If the ribbed lines are effective, most of the casualties would be at
the interchanges - where it's legal to cycle now.

Of course, if cyclists could use the hard shoulder, there'd be nothing
to stop pedestrians, mopeds, horses...

Colin McKenzie

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Old February 19th 05, 02:41 PM
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"Colin McKenzie" wrote:

I wonder how effective the ribbed white lines are at stopping sleeping
drivers wandering onto the hard shoulder. If they work, it's arguable
that M-way hard shoulders are as safe as anymhere to ride. Rules would
be: come off and on again at every junction (including service areas);
always pass stopped vehicles on the inside, dismounting if necessary.


If they allow cyclists to use motorways, but with the restrictions you
suggest, then that could be the thin edge of the wedge to "marginalise"
cyclists on non mway roads.


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Old February 19th 05, 05:19 PM
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In article , Peter B
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Actually cycling on a mway hard shoulder is probably one of the pastimes in
hell ;-)


Unless you've actually been there (hard shoulder that is) it's difficult
to imagine what it's like. My car broke down on the m4 about 20 years
ago. I phoned the police then rather naively got back into the car to
continue listening to the sports program on the radio. I got out after a
very few minutes and stood on the grass bank. The violent bouncing
around of the car caused by enormous vehicles travelling at enormous
speeds only a foot or two away is a frightening experience. Apart from
the possibility of a cyclist getting hit on the hard shoulder itself,
the risk of being sucked into the nearside lane behind one HGV &
squashed by the next one must be significant.

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