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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
Sorry for the cross-posting, but I just want to get the info out on this
a-hole. I have been doing bike-related buying and selling over the internet via newsgroups and websites since 1994 and I have never been "burned" until this transaction. On Nov. 23, 2004, I paid Mr. Creed $300 USD via PayPal for a pair of new Shimano R215 shoes and Dura-Ace SPD-SL pedals that were advertised on roadbikereview.com. The agreement was to send the package via US Postal service airmail to me in Canada. They did not arrive before Christmas, but I gave some extra grace period because this is a very busy time for the mail system. After not receiving anything by Jan. 11, 2005, I e-mailed Mr. Creed and inquired. He was very responsive, even offering to "buy new shoes/pedals and send them". I told him to first check into the situation with the post office. He replied on Jan. 21 saying that the USPS had found the package in customs and the label had been damaged, hence the delay. He said he would re-send them by Monday Jan. 24. By Feb. 17, I started to believe that nothing was coming. I sent Mr. Creed an e-mail stating that I was unsure about the transaction and its legitimacy, and that at this point I just wanted my money to be refunded to my PayPal account. Obviously I had no recourse to file a complaint via PayPal because the 30 day window had expired (edit: it is actually 45 days, still makes no difference). However, I told Mr. Creed that in the interests of fair trade he should refund my money. He replied, initially saying something about the lost package, I replied back that I just wanted my money, and he replied saying "refund forthcoming". It is now Mar. 16, and I have not received a refund. Again, I fully realize that I don't really have any grounds, but I have told Mr. Creed that I would be posting about his trading habits here and on rec.bicycles newsgroups where also frequents. I would fully recommend that anyone reading this to never consider a purchase from Mr. Creed, regardless of the price and promises. Mr. Creed, I know you read these newsgroups. Don't try to engage me in a conversation about the situation. It has been nearly 4 months since you received my money and I have received nothing! I do not want to talk about it on this forum or in e-mail. I just want you to simply refund my money to my PayPal account. That is the only honest solution you can provide at this point. Eric |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
I too had an unfortunate experience w/Mr Creed. I PP funds for a set of NIB
Alaneras. They never arrived and he told me some story about having "mis-addressed" the package. To his credit he did eventually refund the money but I am in CA not Canada) BTW, he said he is Mike Creed's (Discovery Team) dad. FWIW. "Eric Harvey" wrote in message news:yVh_d.707472$Xk.60673@pd7tw3no... Sorry for the cross-posting, but I just want to get the info out on this a-hole. I have been doing bike-related buying and selling over the internet via newsgroups and websites since 1994 and I have never been "burned" until this transaction. On Nov. 23, 2004, I paid Mr. Creed $300 USD via PayPal for a pair of new Shimano R215 shoes and Dura-Ace SPD-SL pedals that were advertised on roadbikereview.com. The agreement was to send the package via US Postal service airmail to me in Canada. They did not arrive before Christmas, but I gave some extra grace period because this is a very busy time for the mail system. After not receiving anything by Jan. 11, 2005, I e-mailed Mr. Creed and inquired. He was very responsive, even offering to "buy new shoes/pedals and send them". I told him to first check into the situation with the post office. He replied on Jan. 21 saying that the USPS had found the package in customs and the label had been damaged, hence the delay. He said he would re-send them by Monday Jan. 24. By Feb. 17, I started to believe that nothing was coming. I sent Mr. Creed an e-mail stating that I was unsure about the transaction and its legitimacy, and that at this point I just wanted my money to be refunded to my PayPal account. Obviously I had no recourse to file a complaint via PayPal because the 30 day window had expired (edit: it is actually 45 days, still makes no difference). However, I told Mr. Creed that in the interests of fair trade he should refund my money. He replied, initially saying something about the lost package, I replied back that I just wanted my money, and he replied saying "refund forthcoming". It is now Mar. 16, and I have not received a refund. Again, I fully realize that I don't really have any grounds, but I have told Mr. Creed that I would be posting about his trading habits here and on rec.bicycles newsgroups where also frequents. I would fully recommend that anyone reading this to never consider a purchase from Mr. Creed, regardless of the price and promises. Mr. Creed, I know you read these newsgroups. Don't try to engage me in a conversation about the situation. It has been nearly 4 months since you received my money and I have received nothing! I do not want to talk about it on this forum or in e-mail. I just want you to simply refund my money to my PayPal account. That is the only honest solution you can provide at this point. Eric |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
In article k.net,
T A wrote: I too had an unfortunate experience w/Mr Creed. I PP funds for a set of NIB Alaneras. They never arrived and he told me some story about having "mis-addressed" the package. To his credit he did eventually refund the money but I am in CA not Canada) BTW, he said he is Mike Creed's (Discovery Team) dad. FWIW. What does that have to do with anything? You gonna go to www.mikecreed.com and email his son? Scott -- -*- Scott Patton -*- Colorado Springs, CO |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
What would that have to do w/anything?
"scott patton" wrote in message ... In article k.net, T A wrote: I too had an unfortunate experience w/Mr Creed. I PP funds for a set of NIB Alaneras. They never arrived and he told me some story about having "mis-addressed" the package. To his credit he did eventually refund the money but I am in CA not Canada) BTW, he said he is Mike Creed's (Discovery Team) dad. FWIW. What does that have to do with anything? You gonna go to www.mikecreed.com and email his son? Scott -- -*- Scott Patton -*- Colorado Springs, CO |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
In article .net,
T A wrote: What would that have to do w/anything? I miss-read that. I now realize it said Mike Sr. said he was Mike Jr's dad. I would think that pointing that out in either case, would be odd... and wonder what it has to do with anything. Scott -- -*- Scott Patton -*- Colorado Springs, CO |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
scott patton wrote: You gonna go to www.mikecreed.com and email his son? Scott Actually, if I were in this guy's position, that's exactly what I'd do. The racing community in the U.S. is small, and word gets around. If someone told me my old man was ripping people off, you bet I'd tell him to cut it out. |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
So if you didn't want to talk about this in a public forum why post
this in a public forum? You brought it up, now expect the ****-storm to begin. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just saying. Tom |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
In article om,
wrote: scott patton wrote: You gonna go to www.mikecreed.com and email his son? Scott Actually, if I were in this guy's position, that's exactly what I'd do. The racing community in the U.S. is small, and word gets around. If someone told me my old man was ripping people off, you bet I'd tell him to cut it out. It's my guess that YMC has, or will soon read all of this. Hard to say for sure, but ... Maybe it's hard to get time off from Burger King.... or Kunich is too busy lusting after him.... Scott -- -*- Scott Patton -*- Colorado Springs, CO |
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BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.
Chris Phillipo wrote:
In article om, says... Subject: BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr. From: Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace, rec.bicycles.racing scott patton wrote: You gonna go to www.mikecreed.com and email his son? Scott Actually, if I were in this guy's position, that's exactly what I'd do. The racing community in the U.S. is small, and word gets around. If someone told me my old man was ripping people off, you bet I'd tell him to cut it out. Or if the guy in fact isn't even related to Mike, that would be an even bigger deal. Or if the guy was related to the rock band, CREED... that would be an even BIGGER deal |
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