Cyclists waste petrol

On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:33:41 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 08/09/18 13:51, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

When a cyclist uses a busy road, he slows down all the cars, making them
less efficient, using a lower gear, overtaking, changing speed, etc. So
you *******s aren't green at all.

So a cyclist just causes petrol to be used that they would have used had
they gone by car. Except not as much.

Probably a lot more. I measured my fuel consumption when I had a VW Golf with a real time readout of miles per gallon. It was surprising how much difference you could make by changing speed.

Alternatively, with more cars are on the roads you have to wait longer
at junctions. Sitting stationary isn't free.

It uses **** all actually.

And if people wouldn't go so ****ing slow, you wouldn't have to wait so long.

On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 11:13:53 PM UTC+1, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT), Simon Jester, the mentally
challenged, troll-feeding, senile cretin, blabbered again:



I drive around town in D, which means I can keep my hands on the wheel.
I wonder how many young drivers realise what happens when the power steering fails.
Manual gearboxes should be banned.

Idiots like the two of you should be banned from LIFE! And I MEAN it!

And you will scream and scream and scream until you are sick.

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:20:05 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/08/2018 12:23 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 19:11:17 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/08/2018 06:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
When a cyclist uses a busy road, he slows down all the cars, making
them
less efficient, using a lower gear, overtaking, changing speed, etc.
So
you *******s aren't green at all.

Around here they just run over the cyclists. If the F350 doesn't get
them the horse trailer will..

I'm becoming a pussy in my old age and really like dedicated bike
paths.
Sharing narrow, shoulderless roads with traffic isn't my thing anymore.

Sharing them when there's a cycle path right next to the bloody road is
insanity, yet they all do it around here.

I've seen that. They are usually dressed in gaily colored Lycra to boot.

They're all homosexuals.

Says the poofter that shaves its legs.

I wear the same clothes as I would when out walking.

Which is no clothes at all.

Personally the further I get from the road on a bicycle the better I
like it. Fortunately there are quite a few paths around here for
recreational riding.

Yes, I use a bicycle for being in the countryside. I use a car for being
on the road.

On 09/08/2018 05:49 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
My friend says Audis are good, although the parts are ****ing expensive.

I bought mine in '72 and Volkswagen was still figuring out how to build
cars with the engine and drivetrain in the front. I'd went in to buy a
Porsche 914 but realized that wasn't going to work. With some sort of
German ingenuity it had less room than my Sprite.

When we divorced I kept the Lincoln and my wife took the Audi. She
traded it for a Rabbit (Golf) and got almost nothing for it. She liked
the Rabbit. I rode in it a couple of times and it seemed like a nice ride.

In its defense Nixon imposed a 55 mph national speed limit in '74 and
the cops were really enforcing it for a couple of years. The car was not
designed to do 55 except as a blip on the way to 90.



I'd never buy a BMW as they're all rear wheel drive, which is absolute
****e for cornering.

The BMW motorcycle riders tend to be more of the same. The club came
through town and there were several arrests and one fatality iirc. When
the Hells Angels came here on vacation there were many arrests -- all of
local kids protesting the cops treatment of them. The police chief got
fired over that fiasco. Turns out you can't import out of state cops to
swell your ranks in this state.

On 09/08/2018 05:49 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

The BMW motorcycle riders tend to be more of the same. The club came
through town and there were several arrests and one fatality iirc. When
the Hells Angels came here on vacation there were many arrests -- all of
local kids protesting the cops treatment of them. The police chief got
fired over that fiasco. Turns out you can't import out of state cops to
swell your ranks in this state.

Why did the pigs arrest them?


The BMW riders? Mostly for being drunken assholes.

The kids? The cops, especially the imported cops from St. George UT,
were being assholes. It was a hot summer night and the kids had an
impromptu demo protesting the cops' attitude. The local cops could have
defused the situation but the Utah idiots went full Mormon roughing the
kids up and arresting them. They even managed to beat up a reporter for
the local independent paper.

The Mormons would take the kids to the jail and kick them out with no
paperwork so it was a complete cluster**** at the jail.

The Angels had rented a ski area outside of town so they quietly motored
off and went to bed or at least stayed out of the fracas.

I was having an espresso at the Raven and sitting out at a sidewalk
table. A couple of Angels got a coffee and sat down beside me. I
detected a distinct odor of Shower To Shower. Angels just ain't what
they used to be.

On 09/08/2018 05:51 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Probably a lot more. I measured my fuel consumption when I had a VW
Golf with a real time readout of miles per gallon. It was surprising
how much difference you could make by changing speed.

The consumption in my Toyota goes all to hell at 85. It still gets
around 29-30 mpg but it definitely isn't economy mode.

rbowman wrote
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote

My friend says Audis are good, although the parts are ****ing expensive.

I bought mine in '72 and Volkswagen was still figuring out how to build
cars with the engine and drivetrain in the front. I'd went in to buy a
Porsche 914 but realized that wasn't going to work. With some sort of
German ingenuity it had less room than my Sprite.

The Golf was very decent in that regard. Mine is a 73 and it was fine
for 45 years. Very little had to be replaced, just the alternator regulator.
I didn't bother to replace the bonnet release cable, just had the wire
coming out of the front radiator grill with a bend in the end of it that
I put in the keyring to release the bonnet. The odo also failed, and
I didn't bother to replace that either.

When we divorced I kept the Lincoln and my wife took the Audi. She traded
it for a Rabbit (Golf) and got almost nothing for it. She liked the
Rabbit. I rode in it a couple of times and it seemed like a nice ride.

Yeah, loved mine.

In its defense Nixon imposed a 55 mph national speed limit in '74 and the
cops were really enforcing it for a couple of years. The car was not
designed to do 55 except as a blip on the way to 90.

Mine was a manual and did that fine.

I'd never buy a BMW as they're all rear wheel drive, which is absolute
****e for cornering.

The BMW motorcycle riders tend to be more of the same. The club came
through town and there were several arrests and one fatality iirc. When
the Hells Angels came here on vacation there were many arrests -- all of
local kids protesting the cops treatment of them. The police chief got
fired over that fiasco. Turns out you can't import out of state cops to
swell your ranks in this state.

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 17:21:39 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ...
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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When a cyclist uses a busy road, he slows down all the cars, making them
less efficient, using a lower gear, overtaking, changing speed, etc. So
you *******s aren't green at all.

us *******s just like to annoy yous *******s.....

You *******s dinnae like it when you're cycling on the cheap ****
non-steamrolled tarmac and the stone chips fly into your face. Ha!

we dinnie ....

"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 09/08/2018 06:51 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
When a cyclist uses a busy road, he slows down all the cars, making them
less efficient, using a lower gear, overtaking, changing speed, etc. So
you *******s aren't green at all.

Around here they just run over the cyclists. If the F350 doesn't get them
the horse trailer will..

I'm becoming a pussy in my old age and really like dedicated bike paths.
Sharing narrow, shoulderless roads with traffic isn't my thing anymore.



the problem is when I'm cycling I hate motorists and bikers......when I'm on
a bike I hate cyclists and motorists......when I'm in my car I hate bikers
and motorists........wonder what will happen when I get and build up my
escooter and ride on the road and in cycle lanes and bus
lanes.......probably hate EVERYBODY......except myself for having discovered
the best way to travel around locally ....

And so they spend much time and money making special cycle ways, or worse
shared spaces where everyone has to avoid each other resulting in the less
able not going anywhere near them, reducing footfall in town centres and
putting more people in cars instead.

I do sometimes wonder if the planners actually think things right through to
the end. For example even when a cycle way is totally segregated, it pinches
road space from both vehicles and pedestrians, but come the start and end of
said cycle way, the cyclist has to go back on the road, cross running
traffic or mingle with pedestrians, so with fewer lanes of traffic, the
flow is slower and with the mixing of cyclists at the end you often need
lights to stop accidents.
It may look good but come mid winter all the good weather cyclists are back
in their cars moaning about the lack of road space.
I have pointed this out to the councils and others but am met with the
blank its current policy to discourage car use.
Next you will find that shops on top of fighting online competition will
want cars back to increase their customers again during the winter.
Whatever you do, unless you can move all the building back, you cannot
have it all ways.

Interesting to note that several companies are now back to talking about
cars that run on hydrogen again for long distance use, using fuel cells.
Brian

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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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When a cyclist uses a busy road, he slows down all the cars, making them
less efficient, using a lower gear, overtaking, changing speed, etc. So
you *******s aren't green at all.