Cyclists waste petrol

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:40:58 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 09/09/18 12:54, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/09/18 12:25, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 11:52:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/09/18 11:24, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:33:41 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 08/09/18 13:51, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

When a cyclist uses a busy road, he slows down all the cars, making
them less efficient, using a lower gear, overtaking, changing speed,
etc. So you *******s aren't green at all.

So a cyclist just causes petrol to be used that they would have used
had they gone by car. Except not as much.

Alternatively, with more cars are on the roads you have to wait longer
at junctions. Sitting stationary isn't free.

Uses a microscopic amount of fuel if you have auto-stop.

Uses significant amounts getting back up to speed.

Take a 1 tonne car at 30 mph (13m/s). mks system makes the KE 500* 13^2
= 84,500 J or about 6cc of diesel at 33% efficiency.

Each stop is costing you about 1p

That may be, but a different cost to sitting stationary.

Well yes, sitting staionary in a garage costs nothing.

Sitting stationary because you have to give way to a cyclist costs a lot.

Motor vehicles make you sit stationary at junctions. Bicycles only make
you slow down between them.

Just as bad.

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:31:06 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 04:45:21 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/09/2018 05:48 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
In the UK the cops are in fear of being done for assault. They're
always very polite and behave like girls. It's quite funny arguing
with
a traffic cop, they let you insult them.

Yes, well that's the UK... I'm sure you read enough US news to realize
this is not the UK.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/officer-ar...ry?id=57715416

How ****ed up do you have to be to think you're in your house when
you're
in someone else's?

There might just be a reason for that immortal 'little boxes' line.

What?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 04:44:22 +0100, Rod Speed
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rbowman wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Nope. In fact its so light with such a decent engine
that I was hooning along at well over 140K Km on
the way back from an airshow in Temora on the first
trip out of town in the new car. That's exceeding
the 100K speed limit by the level at which the
cops can seize the car instead of just fining you.

No vacation plans for Australia either.

The Northern Territory has no speed limit on its best highways
again. And its what appeals to many tourists too.

The speed limit on many of our roads is 138 (85)

We do have 110 km on the best highways like the the Hume.

and the Highway Patrol isn't all that interested in
enforcing it in the countryside.

Ours do. Just recently had one pull me over at about 4am
on one of those 1000Km trips. Fortunately it was a less
than well maintained road where the centerline hadn't
been repainted for decades and so I was below the limit.

Cops pulling people at 4am when there's **** all other traffic for you to
possibly crash into are arseholes.

He appeared to be heading into Wagga, the same as
I was, and that 4am was a Saturday morning and he
got me to count into his roadside breath test machine,
checking to see if I was heading home after a ****up
in Coolamon on friday night.

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On 09/09/2018 10:53 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
rbowman wrote
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Once you lot are out of the EU, you'll have decent Korean
cars
available

Like Dacia and Daiwoo? Loads of them about already.

Dacias are Romanian, aren't they?

Yep, and a Renault subsidiary there.

While I work with a woman named Dacia, that's as close as I'll
ever
get
to one. We don't even have Renaults any more and after the Yugo,
any
eastern European creations are suspect. There are some who feel
that
the
only worthwhile thing Clinton did was bombing the Yugo plant.

I've yet to see any car that's reliable.

Mine hasn't had a single failure in 12 years.

Why, in the 21st century, can't we make anything that just keeps
working?

They have with mine. Corse its not a european steaming turd with
wheels.

Are you talking about your Golf?

Nope, the Getz that replaced it.

Did you suddenly feel the need to drive at precisely the speed limit
when
you bought it?

Nope. In fact its so light with such a decent engine
that I was hooning along at well over 140K Km on the
way back from an airshow in Temora on the first
trip out of town in the new car. That's exceeding
the 100K speed limit by the level at which the
cops can seize the car instead of just fining you.

Ours is about 30mph over. Which I guess is similar. But it's not just
seizing the car, your license gets removed,

Yeah, ours is too. And currently a $2.5K fine as well.

My friend when we were about 20 got done for 130mph in a 50mph limit (late
at night, clear road). He was given the option of about a £2500 fine or 2
years ban from driving.

We don't have any option, you get both and 6 demerit points
with no driving if you end up with a total of 13 points. And
double demerits on major public holidays too like Easter and
Xmas, so you can lose your licence even if you are under 140km
and you have some points lost already.

He took the ban. The car was not seized. After all, the car hadn't
broken the law.

The seizure is a more substantial penalty,
nothing to do with the car breaking the law.

because the ****wits think driving fast means you're dangerous.

The cop had the decency to list it at just under 140K
and just slug me the ****ing great fine.

Less paperwork.

I chose to
front the magistrate instead of paying the fine
and pointed out that that was on a straight stretch
of flat road, not even any trees on the side of the
road for more than 10KM with no other cars in
sight until the cop car showed up coming in the
other direction, presumably at 100K. Driving into
the setting sun, and lied to the magistrate that
it was the first time in the new car and I didn't
notice it was going that fast. He let me off.

Bloody hell. Try that here and get double the fine,

You risk that here too.

they bribe you by letting you have less problems if you plead guilty.

All the Hyundai drivers here do.

Don't believe that either

Anyone owning a Hyundai is an OCD ****wit or an OAP.

Another pathetic excuse for a troll.

No, it's just what most Hyundai owners here are like.

Bull****.

In fact I don't ever recall any Hyundai going over the limit.

Another pathetic excuse for a troll.

Usually i10, i20, etc her.

Same here, those replaced the Getz which isnt a current model.

and you previously claimed that everyone there drives at 10-15K over
the
speed limit.

Every normal person.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Anyone who's decent sounding when you talk to them here drives at a decent
speed, a fair bit over the limit unless a pig is about.

You've just claimed that Hyundai drivers don't, you pathetic excuse for a
troll.

Even you should be able to do better
than that pathetic excuse for a troll.

Obviously not.

Always in my ****ing way!

I had to replace things on my Golf.

I didn't have to replace much, just the alternator regulator and the
exhaust silencer, once.

Actually I gave up on mine because of the large amount of rust
underneath
to pass the ****ing government nanny state MOT.

I did too, but that was my stupidity. I don't garage or carport
my cars and knew that the Golf passengers floor got wet after
heavy rain due to the windscreen seal and had never got
around to redoing the windscreen seal. That eventually
did rust thru the floor. No rust on the outside tho.

My garage is for storing things,

I never did bother to do the carport.

I don't have room indoors for a car.

I could if I wanted to but choose not to.

Some say it's better to be outdoors for the wind to dry it off after a
rainy drive. Dunno how true that is.

Its bull**** because being outside sees it get
wet much more often on that soggy little island.

Maybe less than with some cars, but I still needed replacement
suspension parts etc.

I didn't replace any of those and I used that Golf for
much longer than you did, 45 years in fact and used
it every day to go to and from work too.

Are your roads littered with speed bumps?

Yep.

I go over perhaps 200 a day.

Nothing like as many here.

Not littered then. Here, they're even stupid enough to put them in
places
where you couldn't possibly be breaking the limit, like literally 10
feet
from a junction.

Not here.

You wouldn't believe how stupid our councils are.

I did have to replace one of the giant rubber
things that the exhaust system hangs on.

I've found exhausts on all makes of cars to be similar. Stupidly made
out
of rustable metals.

That's why I replaced it with a stainless steel one.

Since I buy cars for £500,

So can I but I choose not to anymore. The last 3 cars have been bought
new. You get a lot more choice of car, can be sure of no problems to fix
that you have to pay for for years and I generally keep them for so long
that the extra cost isnt worth the hassle with old bombs.

If I wanted to spend more, I'd probably buy 3 year old cars. Then you
don't lose loads in depreciation, but you still get reliability, and
probably a warranty.

But have a much worse choice of car to buy.

I tend to replace an exhaust only once, so pointless me getting a longer
lasting one. They should be manufactured with them though, especially
those with a 7 year warranty. Although I guess they scam you on that
and
omit the exhaust from the warranty.

Mine doesn't. Only the tyres and battery are excluded.

Odd as a battery lasts at least 5 years.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Simon Jester wrote:
ding!

If you have a problem with this tread then just ignore it

You wish, senile oaf!

No, I do not wish it. You are welcome to rant and rave as much as you like.

I'll keep exposing your idiotic senile troll-feeding for as long as you keep
doing it! Period!

FLUSH the rest of your senile attempt at yet more senile "communication"

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:48:16 -0700 (PDT), Simon Jester, the mentally
challenged, troll-feeding, senile cretin, blabbered again:

How odd. Every auto I've had doesn't change gears at low speeds at all,
but just uses the torque converter.


I don't care which gear my car uses anymore than I care what fuel/air
ratio it uses or how it advances the ignition timing. I would rather
concentrate on safe driving.

If I were senile, I probably wouldn't care either, senile! BG

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 05:00:49 +0100, Rod Speed
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rbowman wrote
Rod Speed wrote

So can I but I choose not to anymore. The last 3 cars have been bought
new. You get a lot more choice of car, can be sure of no problems to
fix
that you have to pay for for years and I generally keep them for so
long
that the extra cost isnt worth the hassle with old bombs.

The last used car I bought was a Geo Metro with 90,000 miles on it. It
was
an experiment to see if I could live with something that small. It
worked
out well so I bought a new Toyota subcompact.

I've just discovered that I can't actually sleep on the back seat of the
Getz and I'm not that tall, only 5'8" I know I did in the Golf but also
recall sleeping on a spring steel stretcher beside one of our massive
highways with the Golf so its not clear how I slept inside the Golf.

I'm 5'9" but I like to sleep stretched out. My Renault Scenic is exactly
the size of a single mattress in the back when you take out the rear seats
(they unclip in minutes).

I should try that with an airbed, takes
up less room when not using it.

I'm surprised you don't measure yourself in cm.

We do, I just don't remember that one and couldn't
be bothered checking the spreadsheet.

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 6:33:28 PM UTC+1, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 16:48:16 +0100, Simon Jester wrote:

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 3:18:02 PM UTC+1, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:45:12 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 11/09/18 00:50, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:25:53 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 09/09/18 00:50, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:33:39 +0100, TMS320
wrote:

On 08/09/18 22:29, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

I agree that all cars should be automatic. But for some
reason the UK hasn't caught up with the US in this respect.

Actually, Europe hasn't caught up with the rest of the world.
And to prove it hasn't a clue it invented the dual clutch.

Never had one of those, are they a bad thing then? Top Gear
seems to like them.

They were developed for racing. They probably work quite well where
the fast upshifts minimise breaks in power. They are said not to
cope with low speeds particularly well where the preselection can
be indecisive. Non-European markets don't like the abrupt shifts.
They have been the subject of warranty claims and law suits.

Why the **** would there be a lawsuit over shifting quickly?

Hmm... OK.
...there are also times they don't shift at all.

Ford recently dropped "Power****" and went back to a conventional
auto. PSA stayed with proper Japanese boxes all along without
putting themselves through the same learning process and it seems
some brands have quietly dropped auto completely from some models
where second hand cars with the box can be found in Autotrader.

Why are people so stupid as to want to change gears themselves when
the car can do it for you? An automatic is a wonder to drive in
comparison. You just press one of two pedals. Go faster or go
slower, simple.

As I said, the Europeans are a long way behind the rest of the world..
Europeans seem to put more value on cosmetic additions, rather than
genuine driving aids.

The "basic" rental sedan I hired in the US a couple of years ago had
steel wheels and tyres with proper sidewalls. But it had a 2.4 engine
headlined as 180hp and an electrically adjustable driver's seat (*).
Here, a base model comes with a wheezy little engine and if a proper
engine is wanted it has to be accompanied by a load of overpriced tat.

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 7:09:11 PM UTC+1, Peeler wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:43:53 -0700 (PDT), Simon Jester wrote:
ding!

If you have a problem with this tread then just ignore it

You wish, senile oaf!

No, I do not wish it. You are welcome to rant and rave as much as you like.

I'll keep exposing your idiotic senile troll-feeding for as long as you keep
doing it! Period!

FLUSH the rest of your senile attempt at yet more senile "communication"

No, you make yourself look like a silly little girl.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:41:41 -0700 (PDT), Simon Jester wrote:


I'll keep exposing your idiotic senile troll-feeding for as long as you keep
doing it! Period!

FLUSH the rest of your senile attempt at yet more senile "communication"

No, you make yourself look like a silly little girl.

....says the silly, senile, troll-feeding fool! LOL