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Planning a very long ride - 8 hrs
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:34:14 +0200, "Jacques Moser"
wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 16:16:03 +0000, Badger_South wrote: Nix that. I have a couple ppl who will help me. I want to be lean and light, not lugging food. Maybe at some future time, b/c a 'self-supported' ride is definitely a neat goal. But this time, I'm gonna do it like a 10K race, on a loop and have friends throw me sponges and food, heh-heh. There might even be balloons and strippers! ;-p If you tell us when and where, somebody could paint "go Badger go !" on the road, provided you accept to throw empty bottles for us to collect ! I would definitely not try to take showers in the middle of the ride, as this would "soften" me too much; and if no shower, why change clothes ? Well, I've done a couple long runs and it definitely helped me to jump in the lake along the route (I had fresh socks and took off my shoes). I'll pretend it's a duathlon, like bike-swim-bike, 'kay? ;-) So you need your team to carry a full size swimming pool for you along the road ? Jacques Yeah, they're gonna run along side, just in case! -B (actually I live near a river, and have a pool in my backyard. So there's options) |
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Planning a very long ride - 8 hrs
You get my vote. 41 posts so far. Troll of the month for sure. Or, to anal
to ride with others. Quit posting and write when you've got your hundred out of the way. If you are riding two or three times a day, 100 or more miles a week then a hundred is no big deal. "Just Do It'". Bill - top posted on purpose "Badger_South" wrote in endless messages |
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In article , Badger_South wrote: I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's something I've been thinking about: Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2? People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks. 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were gonna do it how would you break it up? I'm thinking the mental aspect would be the most difficult. Gonna try and get the family interested in it to help with that. I'm sure some here would say 'just ride for the 8 hours, what's the big deal', but that would be OK for those who have ridden a lot (like frequent 3-4 hour rides), but my longest ride has been 3.5 hours, and only did that once. I'm hoping to get some posts on others who have done something like this, and their experiences vs the initial expectations. I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light. o 5:30-8:30 o 9:00-11:00 _ I suspect you won't leave the house after this break. A steady effort with short breaks is much easier on the body. If you take an hour off and eat, that's pretty much a recipe for cramps and upset. Also, with the schedule of "breaks" it would be easy to over exert yourself in the early efforts. If you're going to take a long break, 2-3 hours is much better. o 12:-1 o 2-4pm _ I'm not sure I see the point of this effort, but whatever floats your boat. If you can ride for 3 hours, you can ride for 8 if you eat, drink and set a reasonable pace. It's not as hard as you're making it. The hardest part about such a long ride is getting the bike comfortable and learning how to drink enough. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQM3iaGTWTAjn5N/lAQHqhQQAvSYcwhORLvAyUdXt1U2F312j+WXoNkGt IJzMQDF7NLl8TN9GwBLOovsl7TPeK25715mw4dkDuw2djiQew9 CVz3L3/lamAKZ/ hBo06IGp34M461k8J5XnCRuS7jNaxURzj8D61j3emOov7YvVuy F0iI+YwLJZr8mo TUymuOJC8Pw= =JMC8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Badger_South wrote in message . ..
I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's something I've been thinking about: With 400 mile months you should probably be in good shape for a long ride. Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2? I would nix the shower, far too disruptive to the whole idea. I would also take shorter rest breaks but perhaps more often. Your body will let you know when it wants to rest. Just make sure to eat enough food that you aren't hungry. People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks. 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were gonna do it how would you break it up? I did a ride last summer - one 8 hour day (hoping now to try some multi-day touring this summer!) I had a start point and a destination point I wanted to get to that was about 80 miles away. (I obviously didn't spend the whole 8 hours on the bike!) To me, the whole fun was doing it solo. I wouldn't worry about bringing changes of clothes etc - just wear something with wicking fabric so if you sweat a lot you won't be drenched. You can carry your food with you or buy it on the road. My background previous to the ride was mostly short rides (5 mile one way commutes) and the odd 1 to 3 hour long fun ride, but really I hadn't had much mileage before that ride. I rode on my clunky mountain bike with slicks commuter, and had a pannier with a bit of stuff in it on the rack (clothes since I was staying overnight at my destination, and a bit of fruit and power bars. I stopped to buy food along the way although made a mistake at bypassing the last major place to buy something and was pretty hungry for the last 20 miles of the ride. If you don't have a rack/panniers you could get a camelback-style water pack that also has a bit of room to stuff a spare shirt (if you think you might want one) and a power bar or two. You could also have sandwiches etc. in a handlebar bag. I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light. o 5:30-8:30 o 9:00-11:00 o 12:-1 o 2-4pm I started at around 8 a.m. (I'm not a morning person so starting at first light would have been torturous). I tried not to stop until having gone a decent distance - otherwise too many stops its hard to maintain momentum. Though I stopped often enough looking for bathrooms with the amount of water I consumed. Anywhere particularly scenic I stopped to enjoy the scenery briefly and have a snack. I stopped a bit longer where I planned to have lunch but found out when I got there it was only a snack bar so had to make do with muffins and fruit, and I stopped for maybe half an hour close to the end of my ride just to rest my sit bones. (you really don't want to get up again once you've done this so don't do it too often) I arrived at the end around 4 pm. With less rest stops and a more efficient bike you could do 100 miles in about the same time. My only real gripe with the ride was a lack of hand positions - I just had one with flat bars and no bar ends, so I was a bit stiff in the shoulders, hands by the end. And I would have a more substantial lunch. |
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Planning a very long ride - 8 hrs
Tanya wrote:
Badger_South wrote in message . .. I'm toying with the idea of doing a long ride this fall, after a summer of 400 mile/months, and I'm interested in some ideas as to pacing. Here's something I've been thinking about: With 400 mile months you should probably be in good shape for a long ride. Ride for three hours, then 30 min rest (and take a shower?), eat, then ride for 2 hours, repeat rest, then ride for an hour, repeat rest, then ride final 2 hours. Does that seem like a good scheme? 3-2-1-2? I would nix the shower, far too disruptive to the whole idea. I would also take shorter rest breaks but perhaps more often. Your body will let you know when it wants to rest. Just make sure to eat enough food that you aren't hungry. People who do touring and stuff ride about 8 hours a day for like 2 weeks. 'Course they're sightseeing so it's more fun. It would probably require a "support crew" to bring food and change of clothes and stuff. If you were gonna do it how would you break it up? I did a ride last summer - one 8 hour day (hoping now to try some multi-day touring this summer!) I had a start point and a destination point I wanted to get to that was about 80 miles away. (I obviously didn't spend the whole 8 hours on the bike!) To me, the whole fun was doing it solo. I wouldn't worry about bringing changes of clothes etc - just wear something with wicking fabric so if you sweat a lot you won't be drenched. You can carry your food with you or buy it on the road. My background previous to the ride was mostly short rides (5 mile one way commutes) and the odd 1 to 3 hour long fun ride, but really I hadn't had much mileage before that ride. I rode on my clunky mountain bike with slicks commuter, and had a pannier with a bit of stuff in it on the rack (clothes since I was staying overnight at my destination, and a bit of fruit and power bars. I stopped to buy food along the way although made a mistake at bypassing the last major place to buy something and was pretty hungry for the last 20 miles of the ride. If you don't have a rack/panniers you could get a camelback-style water pack that also has a bit of room to stuff a spare shirt (if you think you might want one) and a power bar or two. You could also have sandwiches etc. in a handlebar bag. I plan to start the ride early in the AM, like 5-ish, or first light. o 5:30-8:30 o 9:00-11:00 o 12:-1 o 2-4pm I started at around 8 a.m. (I'm not a morning person so starting at first light would have been torturous). I tried not to stop until having gone a decent distance - otherwise too many stops its hard to maintain momentum. Though I stopped often enough looking for bathrooms with the amount of water I consumed. Anywhere particularly scenic I stopped to enjoy the scenery briefly and have a snack. I stopped a bit longer where I planned to have lunch but found out when I got there it was only a snack bar so had to make do with muffins and fruit, and I stopped for maybe half an hour close to the end of my ride just to rest my sit bones. (you really don't want to get up again once you've done this so don't do it too often) I arrived at the end around 4 pm. With less rest stops and a more efficient bike you could do 100 miles in about the same time. My only real gripe with the ride was a lack of hand positions - I just had one with flat bars and no bar ends, so I was a bit stiff in the shoulders, hands by the end. And I would have a more substantial lunch. Hey Tanya Nice ride report. I am a commuter too, do about 25 kms round trip daily. Now and then I feel the desire to tune up the body a bit and take a nice ride. Last Saturday I did a 87 km ride with lots of hills. It worked out fine. I've been a slug lately, too many life pressures getting me down maybe. So I took a handful of granola bars, couple water bottles, rain jacket and poly long johns and hit the blacktop. The ride was a scenic trip. I must agree with stopping long enough tp enjoy the scenery! The rain became a bit of a bore, but not bad once I found a Johnny on the Spot where I could put my longies on. A fruit stand in the Fraser Valley sold me the most vivid snack of fresh picked raspberries! Just fabulous.. If you've been riding regularly, it's not hard to now and then dramatically extend your range harmlessly. Next week, who knows? Best , Bernie |
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Planning a very long ride - 8 hrs
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:32:09 +0000, Bill wrote:
You get my vote. 41 posts so far. Troll of the month for sure. Or, to anal to ride with others. Quit posting and write when you've got your hundred out of the way. If you are riding two or three times a day, 100 or more miles a week then a hundred is no big deal. "Just Do It'". Bill - top posted on purpose "Badger_South" wrote in endless messages Keeping a long thread alive by answering posts in not trolling. Riding alone is not being anal. If you don't like this thread you don't need to read it. Jacques |
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