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Old November 16th 04, 08:47 PM
Carl Sundquist
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"Sierraman" wrote in message

Maybe batting against black pitchers I guess, unless the point would be
having competition with likes of Reggie Jackson and Barry Bonds in his
era.
I think people are too quick to trash the old greats. Same with cycling,
too
many I talk to think Merckx would be just average today. I think one time
there was a computer simulation with Ali and who the heck was the other
guy?, Joe Louis maybe, or Rocky M. Different weight divisions but they
just
used calculations, but the math wasn't ran on Deep Blue, like with
Kasparov.
It was to find out who the greatest boxer was.


It was Ali vs. Marciano

They got together in a TV studio in Miami Beach to film sequences that could
be put together to create the simulation.

Marciano won the simulation with a KO in the 13th round, but never knew it
because he died in a plane crash three weeks after the filming ended.


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Old November 17th 04, 02:59 AM
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"Amit" wrote in message

he didn't have to play against black players. that helped him more
than anything. plus his season and career HR record were broken long
before the steroid era.


Since Ruth's most recognized feats are his home runs, how would playing
against black players change that?


-better pitching
-someone else might've been better than him

Even in 1938 hank greenberg hit 58 homers, but teams wouldn't pitch to
him after that, suposedly because they didn't want a jewish player to
hold the HR record.


Better pitching would have affected Josh Gibson, too. Same for Sadaharo Oh.

Aaron played in 32% more games than Ruth, but only hit 6% more HRs

Has anyone yet hit 60 or more HRs in 154 games in MLB?

I'm disappointed in your arguments, Amit.



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Old November 17th 04, 02:59 AM
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"Amit" wrote in message

he didn't have to play against black players. that helped him more
than anything. plus his season and career HR record were broken long
before the steroid era.


Since Ruth's most recognized feats are his home runs, how would playing
against black players change that?


-better pitching
-someone else might've been better than him

Even in 1938 hank greenberg hit 58 homers, but teams wouldn't pitch to
him after that, suposedly because they didn't want a jewish player to
hold the HR record.


Better pitching would have affected Josh Gibson, too. Same for Sadaharo Oh.

Aaron played in 32% more games than Ruth, but only hit 6% more HRs

Has anyone yet hit 60 or more HRs in 154 games in MLB?

I'm disappointed in your arguments, Amit.



 




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