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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617
It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. |
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On Wednesday, 3 February 2016 23:48:29 UTC, Tom Crispin wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. That case is far from over. http://road.cc/content/news/177630-p...%C2%A3150-fine |
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On Thursday, 4 February 2016 07:24:35 UTC, Alycidon wrote:
Good first step. QUOTE: "Sam Jones, CTC Campaign Coordinator, said the case was being looked at by the organisation's Cyclists' Defence Fund, which works to raise awareness of the law relating to cycling and offers help with legal cases. "We're now aware of the Police's reporting of their investigation, and will follow up accordingly. CTC's Cyclist Defence Fund has been in touch with Reginald Scot and we are now looking into how we can help him find justice for this awful incident. "Considering the seriousness of the injury and how blatant the offence, this is very weak from the court not to have imposed the maximum penalty on the unnamed Nottingham man who failed to provide the driver's details." - See more at: http://road.cc/content/news/177630-p....UjxA8UyH.dpuf |
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On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 06:26:39 -0800 (PST), Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 4 February 2016 07:24:35 UTC, Alycidon wrote: Good first step. QUOTE: "Sam Jones, CTC Campaign Coordinator, said the case was being looked at by the organisation's Cyclists' Defence Fund, which works to raise awareness of the law relating to cycling and offers help with legal cases. "We're now aware of the Police's reporting of their investigation, and will follow up accordingly. CTC's Cyclist Defence Fund has been in touch with Reginald Scot and we are now looking into how we can help him find justice for this awful incident. Civil case and try and get some compo? I guess that that will be the motive. |
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On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Well, here is the cyclists solution to the identity problem = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0z-ROYYcdc |
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On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. |
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On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. So the case went through due process and the guilty party brought to account for himself in court? |
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On 04/02/2016 11:04, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. So the case went through due process and the guilty party brought to account for himself in court? Just a £2,200 fine for Jason Howard, described as a 'vile little man' by the deceased's father. |
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... On 04/02/2016 11:04, Tom Crispin wrote: On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. Philip Benwell didn't appear to "get away with it" when he got a 12 month sentence. So the case went through due process and the guilty party brought to account for himself in court? Just a £2,200 fine for Jason Howard, described as a 'vile little man' by the deceased's father. You said "Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children". Since 'cyclists' and 'children' are both plural words you're not doing very well by having to cite an example from 8 years ago. You could could also tell us the proportion of motorists that have received more than a £2,200 fine after mowing a child down. You should have plenty of examples because there will have been about 260 in those 8 years. |
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On 05/02/2016 08:31, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... On 04/02/2016 11:04, Tom Crispin wrote: On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. Philip Benwell didn't appear to "get away with it" when he got a 12 month sentence. So the case went through due process and the guilty party brought to account for himself in court? Just a £2,200 fine for Jason Howard, described as a 'vile little man' by the deceased's father. You said "Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children". Since 'cyclists' and 'children' are both plural words you're not doing very well by having to cite an example from 8 years ago. There was also the little turd in Lancashire (Preston?) who deliberately rode (at speed) along a footway and mowed down (not too strong a term) a small girl in front of her horrified parents. "This has ruined my life...", he whinged, when caught and facing prosecution... "I didn't know it was an offence...", he wriggled. But even citing that case isn't necessary. Stating case-types in the plural is normal discourse in conversational English. You could could also tell us the proportion of motorists that have received more than a £2,200 fine after mowing a child down. You should have plenty of examples because there will have been about 260 in those 8 years. What? *Deliberately* mowing down a child (which is the situation under discussion)? I'd say that that number was a huge... NIL. Wouldn't you? |
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