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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
Originally this was reported as a hit and run, but the truth came out at the
inquest. A CYCLIST riding along the pavement beside the A259 De La Warr Road, Bexhill, lost control just before he was passed by an articulated lorry, an inquest heard. In the one-and-a-half seconds police expert PC Adrian Short calculated that it took the lorry to pass, the cyclist fell into the road and struck his head on the carriageway, suffering fatal head injuries. Thank goodeness for cctv: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. The court heard evidence that suggested at no time had cycle and lorry come into contact http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/...uest-1-4304045 |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote: Originally this was reported as a hit and run, but the truth came out at the inquest. A CYCLIST riding along the pavement beside the A259 De La Warr Road, Bexhill, lost control just before he was passed by an articulated lorry, an inquest heard. In the one-and-a-half seconds police expert PC Adrian Short calculated that it took the lorry to pass, the cyclist fell into the road and struck his head on the carriageway, suffering fatal head injuries. Thank goodeness for cctv: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. The court heard evidence that suggested at no time had cycle and lorry come into contact http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/...uest-1-4304045 Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. I would say yes, undoubtedly. Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
On Sep 26, 8:53*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Originally this was reported as a hit and run, but the truth came out at the inquest. A CYCLIST riding along the pavement beside the A259 De La Warr Road, Bexhill, lost control just before he was passed by an articulated lorry, an inquest heard. In the one-and-a-half seconds police expert PC Adrian Short calculated that it took the lorry to pass, the cyclist fell into the road and struck his head on the carriageway, suffering fatal head injuries. Thank goodeness for cctv: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. The court heard evidence that suggested at no time had cycle and lorry come into contact http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/...t-s-a259-death... Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. I would say yes, undoubtedly. Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. Handy that some lorries have cameras now. Might enable them to see in their own blind spots perhaps? |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
On 26/09/2012 20:53, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Originally this was reported as a hit and run, but the truth came out at the inquest. A CYCLIST riding along the pavement beside the A259 De La Warr Road, Bexhill, lost control just before he was passed by an articulated lorry, an inquest heard. In the one-and-a-half seconds police expert PC Adrian Short calculated that it took the lorry to pass, the cyclist fell into the road and struck his head on the carriageway, suffering fatal head injuries. Thank goodeness for cctv: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. The court heard evidence that suggested at no time had cycle and lorry come into contact http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/...uest-1-4304045 Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. I would say yes, undoubtedly. Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. I've experienced that "push" effect as air is expelled from a Tube tunnel just before the train arrives, but I can't say I've noticed it from an approaching lorry in the open air. |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
On 26/09/2012 20:53, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Originally this was reported as a hit and run, but the truth came out at the inquest. A CYCLIST riding along the pavement beside the A259 De La Warr Road, Bexhill, lost control just before he was passed by an articulated lorry, an inquest heard. In the one-and-a-half seconds police expert PC Adrian Short calculated that it took the lorry to pass, the cyclist fell into the road and struck his head on the carriageway, suffering fatal head injuries. Thank goodeness for cctv: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. The court heard evidence that suggested at no time had cycle and lorry come into contact http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/...uest-1-4304045 Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. I would say yes, undoubtedly. Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. Proof that a push bike isn't a viable form of transport. -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their lives, certainly on a regular basis." |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:31:46 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR
wrote: On 26/09/2012 20:53, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Originally this was reported as a hit and run, but the truth came out at the inquest. A CYCLIST riding along the pavement beside the A259 De La Warr Road, Bexhill, lost control just before he was passed by an articulated lorry, an inquest heard. In the one-and-a-half seconds police expert PC Adrian Short calculated that it took the lorry to pass, the cyclist fell into the road and struck his head on the carriageway, suffering fatal head injuries. Thank goodeness for cctv: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. The court heard evidence that suggested at no time had cycle and lorry come into contact http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/...uest-1-4304045 Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. I would say yes, undoubtedly. Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. Proof that a push bike isn't a viable form of transport. This driver defenestrates himself through his front windscreen gabbing his coat on his way. |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:58:36 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:31:46 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote: On 26/09/2012 20:53, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Originally this was reported as a hit and run, but the truth came out at the inquest. A CYCLIST riding along the pavement beside the A259 De La Warr Road, Bexhill, lost control just before he was passed by an articulated lorry, an inquest heard. In the one-and-a-half seconds police expert PC Adrian Short calculated that it took the lorry to pass, the cyclist fell into the road and struck his head on the carriageway, suffering fatal head injuries. Thank goodeness for cctv: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. The court heard evidence that suggested at no time had cycle and lorry come into contact http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/...uest-1-4304045 Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. I would say yes, undoubtedly. Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. Proof that a push bike isn't a viable form of transport. This driver defenestrates himself through his front windscreen gabbing his coat on his way. Doh! I forgot the link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0ZgMSxoBE |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:53:49 +0100, Bertie Wooster
wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. As the cyclist started to fall off _before_ the vehicle passed it seems improbable that his demise was caused by the slipstream which is behind the vehicle, Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. Which bit of "beginning to lose control as ... approached." makes you think that? |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on thepavement.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:31:46 +0100, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
Proof that a push bike isn't a viable form of transport. No it isn't -- Life is a venereal disease with 100% mortality. |
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Another cyclist that just fell off while riding on the pavement.
Peter Parry wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:53:49 +0100, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:33 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Eight 'stills' taken from a CCTV camera mounted in the lorry's cab showed Mr Cramp beginning to lose control as driver Stephen Ramsden, 60, from Morley, Leeds, approached. Interesting. Should a lorry driver be held accountable for causing death if that death was caused by his vehicle's slipstream. As the cyclist started to fall off _before_ the vehicle passed it seems improbable that his demise was caused by the slipstream which is behind the vehicle, Of course, in this case we do not have enough information to suppose that Mr Cramp's untimely fall was caused by the vehicle's slipstream - it just seems that way. Which bit of "beginning to lose control as ... approached." makes you think that? it is a special way of reading that psycholists have, it ensures that salient points that do not support their way of thinking never reach their brain. |
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