Vandeman's ignorance busted (yet again) - this one!!!!!!

96 people? That's unreal.

On Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:11:06 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 8/8/2013 1:19 AM, Blackblade wrote:



Nice way to avoid the point Mike. You said mountainbiking was a pointless and frivolous activity ... and I simply pointed out that hiking is also a recreational activity with similar impacts on the environment.



That's the bottom line. _All_ activities that use trails have an impact.

All are recreation. Some have much more of an impact--these are the

non-human powered activities involving horses, motors, or engines.



How much impact are we willing to accept? Hiking and mountain biking

have similar impacts in terms of erosion and wildlife disturbance, hence

it would make no sense to ban one and allow the other.



It is true that these two groups of users have the opportunity to annoy

each other. Groups of hikers tend to talk loudly and block the trail. If

you've ever come across a large Sierra Club hiking outing it can be

unnerving; I once went on a Sierra Club hike on Mount Tam in Marin

county where 92 people showed up and even though the leaders divided the

group into two hikes, even 46 people in a group is way too many.

Mountain bikers aren't as loud, and that's part of the problem--they can

be riding pretty fast and startle hikers. If the governing bodies of

parks wanted to alternate access between the two groups (like some lakes

do between power boats and sail boats) that would be fine.



The bigger problem with trails in the San Francisco Bay Area is with

those that allow equestrian use. The horses create a huge mess that the

owners don't clean up, which annoys all the other trail users and they

cause a lot of trail damage. They actually are worse than motorized

vehicles on trails because their negative effects last long after they

pass through. Alas, equestrians tend to be wealthy and well-connected so

attempts to ban horses usually fail.

"hiking is also a recreational activity with similar impacts on the environment". The word "similar" has no meaning in a scientific context. It's not quantifiable. But you already knew that, and chose to pretend that it means something. Idiot.

What the **** would you about about science?

On Saturday, August 31, 2013 3:56:38 AM UTC-7, I love Mike wrote:
What the **** would you about about science?

A Ph.D. is a degree in science, including training in research. DUH! Naturally, you never give your qualifications, which consist solely of the ability to lie.

So what? Judging by your comments and reasoning skills a phd didn't do you much good. By the way your phd is in psyche which means your views on the environment are irrelevant at best.

On Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:22:18 PM UTC-7, I love Mike wrote:
So what? Judging by your comments and reasoning skills a phd didn't do you much good. By the way your phd is in psyche which means your views on the environment are irrelevant at best.

It means I understand science, which you obviously DON'T. You completely ignored my request for your credentials, which I knew you would, because you have NONE. Idiot.

Is that all Vandeman? You have no meaningful credentials at all except for an arrest record and a meaningless degree in psychology. You pass yourself as an expert but in reality you are a shill of the highest order.

On Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:10:43 AM UTC-7, I love Mike wrote:
Is that all Vandeman? You have no meaningful credentials at all except for an arrest record and a meaningless degree in psychology. You pass yourself as an expert but in reality you are a shill of the highest order.

Still waiting to hear your nonexistent "credentials", hypocrite.

Here we go: master of applied science, bachelor of environmental studies and a graduate diploma in applied finance.

Next stupid comment please.

On Sunday, September 1, 2013 3:52:25 PM UTC-7, I love Mike wrote:
Here we go: master of applied science, bachelor of environmental studies and a graduate diploma in applied finance.



Next stupid comment please.

Then you SHOULD be able to at least read and tell the truth, as I do. Is that too much to ask?