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Joerg wrote:
On 2018-10-06 16:30, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 11:59:57 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-06 09:14, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 8:20:28 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-05 09:21, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 7:31:57 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-04 20:34, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/4/2018 3:34 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-04 12:18, jbeattie wrote: It takes very little light to be conspicuous at night, and it takes no additional light to be conspicuous during the day -- assuming broad daylight without cloud cover or other low-light condition. My experience is clearly different. Your experiences are almost always unique, not just different. Yet strangely, it jibes with that of our government folks. Why do you think they mandate DRL on motorcycles? And yet motorcycles are the one category of MVs in Oregon with increasing fatality rates. e.g. http://www.eastoregonian.com/eo/loca...king-this-year You of all people, having been an amulance driver, should know the reason. The reason is this behavior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkWWVryT1UE That is the road where I was almost clipped by a motorcyclist. He didn't anticipate that there could be a mountain bike in a right turn, hugged the curve at high speed and ... "GAAAH!". I heard his engine screaming but didn't have anywhere to go because of a wall of rock to my right. He needed the full oncoming lane to get the situation somewhat under control. Imagine what would have happened if there'd been oncoming traffic. Did you have your super-bright light on? Of course. ... Did it prevent the motorcyclist from being an asshole? If not, you need a much brighter light. You need the Asshole Eliminator from Magicshine -- 60,600 lumen high rate flasher. Run it all the time. The light is for regular straight stretches of road, it won't help in tight curves. Though it might cause motorists to recognize me fractions of a second earlier. Then why are you telling us the motorcycle story if it is not to illustrate that bright DRLs are needed? If you just want to talk about assholes in cars or motorcycles, that is rather mundane and has nothing to do with lights. sigh I bring these examples to show just _who_ is on such roads. Drivers that are reckless, inattentive, incompetent, slow in reaction speed, soused, stoned, or all of the above. And your post about being seen by on-coming, passing cars on straight stretches, you seem to confuse being seen with playing chicken. I ride on country roads all the time where cars in on-coming traffic get into my lane to pass. They can see me. I'm looking right at them. They just don't care. Being that I'm not riding a 3 ton F350, I pull to the right. A magical light doesn't change that dynamic. It does because I notice that with the light on fewer people attempt such maneuvers. I did a short ride today -- my legs are killing me, and I haven't been off my bike for weeks. It's overcast and rained this morning. I saw maybe thirty other cyclists on my little climbing route -- maybe two with DRLs. No deaths to report. No breathless hysterics, stranded people, incompetents with exploded tubeless tires. Totally normal, at least by Portland standards, which for you might be super scary since I'm riding on city streets at full speed! Eeek! I hear a lot of cyclists saying the legs hurt. For me it's never the legs, those are always fine. I run out of breath and become generally exhausted on long hilly rides. My legs could go on another 50mi but the rest of my body doesn't want to. Maybe it’s the beer and sandwiches you use for nourishment on those rides... -- duane |
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On 10/6/2018 3:44 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I like to photograph what I tear apart and reverse engineer. For example, in the bicycle section: Cygolite Streak 280 headlight: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/Cygolite%20Streak%20280/index.html K1009 headlight: http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/K1009%20light/index.html Since I'm a mechanical guy, not an electronics guy: Both of those seem to show far more electronics bits than I'd have thought necessary. Any chance of getting you to explain what they do? I had an off-brand LED dynamo light fail on me. The LED fried itself. In the course of replacing it (which was difficult because of the lack of wowrking space) I was able to take some guesses at the function of the circuitry components - rectifying, regulating, etc. But there were only about six or eight electronic devices in there. I'm surprised a DC battery lamp needs much at all. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 10/6/2018 4:08 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote: This doesn't work as well as it used to. Say that you are a kid today. Good luck getting your parents permission to destroy your TV. Even more good look is needed for you to put it back together. Or a modern mower. Or a modern phone. Or a modern whatever. Wrong. Repairing a car, TV, radio, mower, phone, etc., is much more difficult today than in 1975. Especially if you are to destroy/disassemble it first. My granddad had a professional repair shop, not like my cloak-and-dagger stuff. At this shop, they did absolutely *everything*. Bikes, cars, boats, radios, phones, TVs, you name it. Good luck finding such a shop today with a couple of guys being able to do all that with the usual set of everyday tools and a very small set of machines. The other problem, in America at least, is the high cost of skilled labor vs. the low cost of complete repair. Example: I've got a CD player in the kitchen that has gotten unreliable. It's unable to play some commercial CDs at all, and it has a hard time finding Track 1 on others. (For some reason, it will play OK if I tell it to jump to track 2.) And it has no hope playing most CDs I burn myself. I opened it, checked for sticky rails, cleaned lenses, etc. but found nothing. I took it to an electronics repair place, and the tech guy said "It will cost you $80 minimum for me to just look at it. You're better off buying a new one." -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 10/6/2018 3:13 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
This doesn't work as well as it used to. Say that you are a kid today. Good luck getting your parents permission to destroy your TV. Even more good look is needed for you to put it back together. Or a modern mower. Or a modern phone. Or a modern whatever. I've got a grandson who is VERY interested in taking things apart. He actually asks me to bring over stuff that we can disassemble. (Yes, of _course_ we've done a clock!) Granted, some of his computer disassembly was done with a hammer, but that's OK. I want to nurture the curiosity. My favorite photo of him was taken when he was one year old. He couldn't yet talk. But completely on his own, he grabbed a phillips screwdriver from his dad's tool box, toddled over to his cousin's bike, plugged the screwdriver into a phillips screw on the bike and tried to loosen it. I snapped the photo and still have it on my refrigerator. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 10/7/2018 5:32 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/6/2018 4:08 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: This doesn't work as well as it used to. Say that you are a kid today. Good luck getting your parents permission to destroy your TV. Even more good look is needed for you to put it back together. Or a modern mower. Or a modern phone. Or a modern whatever. Wrong. Repairing a car, TV, radio, mower, phone, etc., is much more difficult today than in 1975. Especially if you are to destroy/disassemble it first. My granddad had a professional repair shop, not like my cloak-and-dagger stuff. At this shop, they did absolutely *everything*. Bikes, cars, boats, radios, phones, TVs, you name it. Good luck finding such a shop today with a couple of guys being able to do all that with the usual set of everyday tools and a very small set of machines. The other problem, in America at least, is the high cost of skilled labor vs. the low cost of complete repair. I meant: the low cost of complete replacement. Sorry. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:54:07 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2018-10-06 16:03, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:40:47 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-05 08:33, Radey Shouman wrote: Joerg writes: On 2018-10-04 18:13, Radey Shouman wrote: Joerg writes: On 2018-10-04 14:43, Radey Shouman wrote: Frank Krygowski writes: On 10/4/2018 2:12 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-04 10:40, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/4/2018 11:02 AM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-01 15:14, wrote: http://reviews.mtbr.com/magicshine-l...2018-interbike The beloved Magicshine brings us what we finally need in bike lights. Thanks to all the gods. 6500 lumens! I think you can have either 5000 or 1500 or all 6500 lumens. Thankfully now we will not only be able to blind everyone else on the road or trail, but we can now cause their eyeballs to burst into flames and maybe hopefully their heads will also explode. Yeah!!!!!! This one for their rear light is weird, quote "A sleep mode is triggered after one minute of inaction to save power, any vibration will immediately re-activate the unit". So the light will go out while waiting at an intersection? Really? Nobody raised their hand during the design review? Was there even a design review? First, their definition of "sleep mode" may not be "goes out." It could, I suppose, just become much dimmer. In any case, it would be easy enough to jiggle the bike a bit to turn it back on. Not very smart on the part of the design engineers. But it's probably not necessary. Ohio law specifically permits lights that go out when the bike is stationary, ... Not a smart decision by the lawmakers. ... and there's never been a report of a death or serious injury caused by that feature. Grandpa drove without a seat belt all his life and never go hurt, so ... Grandpa also rode his bicycle without a six foot tall safety flag, a siren, a bell constantly and automatically ringing every time he moved, pads on his knees, pads on his elbows, body armor protecting his spine. Why are you not using all those measures? (Actually, maybe you are. With you, we never know.) BTW, it even happens from the front, even by police officers: https://fox2now.com/2018/07/30/polic...hone-in-video/ Nothing can replace bright light other than even brighter lights. Which both of my bikes have. Joerg, you're the master of the worldwide search for the vanishingly rare exception. That is NOT a common crash type, as any dispassionate search of the literature would shoe. And you have no evidence that your daytime headlight would have prevented it. Looks like the video has been taken down, at least fox2now.com can't find it. Works fine here. Works for me now, no more "video unavailable". ... The accident happened in broad daylight, no vehicles save the cop SUV and the cyclist visible for miles, cyclist waiting at an intersection, I think for a stop sign. Total f*up on the part of the cop, who was more or less apologetic. A daytime running light would not have helped. Not true. I clearly found that drivers notice me much better with bright lights. Even in the corner of their eyes is enough because it "distracts" them in a good way. All it takes is noticing a cyclist a second or two earlier and a collision can be avoided. Seriously? The cop would have looked up from his phone if only the cyclist had had a light? Sounds like magic. Easy to try. While distracted with some chore in your home, have someone walk towards you pointing a bright but not blinding LED flashlight. It works. A human eye is not insensitive in the directions where one does not look, just less sensitive. The "muffling effect" needs to be overcome and intense light is just about the only method to achieve that. This wasn't inside, it was outside in bright daylight, looked like hardly a cloud in the sky. Try this in daylight. It works. ... A really bright light is required to make much difference in that case. Bingo! Now you know why I have bright lights on my bikes. I experienced it again yesterday. I had to ride through city streets for many miles, partially at max speed. With the light fully on nobody cut into my path. Without lights that is different. Other clue: You are driving a car, looking ahead into traffic as you are supposed to do. The dashboard becomes largely unnoticed except for the occasional glance at the speedometer. However, when the yellow check engine light, the red oil pressure light, the overtemp light or the low fuel light comes on it is immediately noticed. Same if someone behind you flashes their headlights even while you aren't looking into the rear view mirror. That only happens if you have the habit, perhaps not completely conscious, of scanning the dashboard. How do you know it's "immediate"? You notice it when you notice it, and if it's 10 seconds after the event that's not a big problem, unlike the case for traffic on the road. If bright enough or if a less bright light in flashing mode I see that immediately. An airline pilot could even lose his license if he didn't. If bright enough... that is exactly what I said, isn't it. But a great many cars do not have bright warning lights. As for airline pilots... I can't speak for the airlines but USAF bombers have a very bright master warning light located at eye level on the instrument panel that comes on if any of the individual warring lights are illuminated. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciator_panel "More complicated aircraft will feature "Master Warning" and "Master Caution" lights/switches. In the event of any red or yellow annunciator being activated, the yellow or red master light, usually located elsewhere in the pilot's line of sight, will illuminate. In most installations they will flash and an audible alert will accompany them. These "masters" will not stop flashing until they have been acknowledged, usually by pressing the light itself" You have exactly described what I mean. My front annunciator to car drivers is roughly in their line of sight and very bright. The rear one isn't so bright put pulsates. Not irritatingly but gently dimming up and down in random fashion like police cruiser lights. So even if drivers are distracted and glancing over to a GPS screen or cell phone they notice. Which is all I want. It works. A small price to pay for safety. I've got less than $50 worth of material in there and the total weight is around 1lbs due to a fairly large Li-Ion battery. That on is only large on the road bike, for 4-5h rides. "A small price to pay for safety"? You mean that after having spent only $50 you are now totally safe? The mountain lions and the milk cows can't harm you any more? -- Cheers John B. |
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On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 15:09:58 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 10/7/2018 10:54 AM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-06 16:03, John B. Slocomb wrote: A small price to pay for safety. EVERY superstitious "safety!" gizmo is touted as "a small price to pay for safety." That's been said of bike helmets, hi-viz clothing, daytime running lights, air horns on bikes, six-foot tall flippy flags, lateral flippy flags, leg lights, laser-projected bike lane markings, elbow pads and knee pads, bike turn signals and more. Meanwhile, study after study has shown that the benefits of bicyclng greatly outweigh its tiny risks. IOW, riding a bike is literally safer than NOT riding a bike. I wish you'd switch to burdening pedestrians with your crazy "safety" ideas. 4500 fatalities per year. Something must be done! And you can make a profit by selling them junk! A few years ago the CHP did a study of bike-auto collisions in Los Angeles County and found that more then half the accidents were the fault of the cyclist and I recently read a DOT study that showed that 20% of the cyclists that died in an accident had been drinking alcohol it would seem that bicycle safety is largely a matter of the cyclist his(her)'s own actions rather than the brightness of his(her)'s driving lights. -- Cheers John B. |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:55:34 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2018-10-06 16:06, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:11:56 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-05 09:51, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 7:28:43 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-04 18:13, Radey Shouman wrote: Joerg writes: On 2018-10-04 14:43, Radey Shouman wrote: [...] ... The accident happened in broad daylight, no vehicles save the cop SUV and the cyclist visible for miles, cyclist waiting at an intersection, I think for a stop sign. Total f*up on the part of the cop, who was more or less apologetic. A daytime running light would not have helped. Not true. I clearly found that drivers notice me much better with bright lights. Even in the corner of their eyes is enough because it "distracts" them in a good way. All it takes is noticing a cyclist a second or two earlier and a collision can be avoided. Seriously? The cop would have looked up from his phone if only the cyclist had had a light? Sounds like magic. Easy to try. While distracted with some chore in your home, have someone walk towards you pointing a bright but not blinding LED flashlight. It works. A human eye is not insensitive in the directions where one does not look, just less sensitive. The "muffling effect" needs to be overcome and intense light is just about the only method to achieve that. Other clue: You are driving a car, looking ahead into traffic as you are supposed to do. The dashboard becomes largely unnoticed except for the occasional glance at the speedometer. However, when the yellow check engine light, the red oil pressure light, the overtemp light or the low fuel light comes on it is immediately noticed. Same if someone behind you flashes their headlights even while you aren't looking into the rear view mirror. Yet another one: Think about the reason why approaching emergency vehicles have very bright flashing lights. Now imagine all of these riders with lights and sirens: https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...png?1428427634 This is the daily commuter traffic into downtown. Now put all those people on the two-way cycle track on my way into work. https://bikeportland.org/wp-content/...ansit-bend.jpg Now live with that. As I've written several times, bright lights are not needed on bike paths. I turn them off there during the day. They are also not needed when there are lots of cyclists (safety in numbers). It's different out here, this is not Portland, Amsterdam or Copenhagen. Solid white lights in bright sunshine are almost universally irrelevant and annoying to other cyclists and drivers. No, they are not. Why do you think motorcycles have mandatory DRL? Just for fun? ... I see jerseys and body shape long before I register the light. That is totally contrary to my experience and that of just about anyone I know. ... And BTW, having driven ambulance for six years, I spent plenty of time sitting behind cars with my deafening Federal Q2B pegged before the dopey driver turned down the music and realized I was sitting there -- and then he freaks out, hits the gas, goes into the intersection and gets whacked. It can be a sh** show. Whatever giant light, siren, calliope, marching band you claim will save your life can only make a marginal improvement and proving that margin is hard if not impossible, and a blinding light can cause accidents or at least upset. That driver shouldn't have a license. What will really reduce accidents is being a good rider and knowing how to ride in traffic and with entering or exiting traffic. That's the problem. A lot of car drivers do not fall into that category and that is beyond my influence. What I can influence is how my ship is lit, so I do that. No you can't. Marine vessels must adhere to very stringent international regulations for the lights that they display and the brightness of those lights. I tend not to operate marine vessels on roads and bike paths. They'd get scraped up too badly :-) But you are the one that mentioned "my ship". -- Cheers John B. |
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On 10/7/2018 6:43 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:54:07 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-06 16:03, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:40:47 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-05 08:33, Radey Shouman wrote: Joerg writes: On 2018-10-04 18:13, Radey Shouman wrote: Joerg writes: On 2018-10-04 14:43, Radey Shouman wrote: Frank Krygowski writes: On 10/4/2018 2:12 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-04 10:40, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/4/2018 11:02 AM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-01 15:14, wrote: http://reviews.mtbr.com/magicshine-l...2018-interbike The beloved Magicshine brings us what we finally need in bike lights. Thanks to all the gods. 6500 lumens! I think you can have either 5000 or 1500 or all 6500 lumens. Thankfully now we will not only be able to blind everyone else on the road or trail, but we can now cause their eyeballs to burst into flames and maybe hopefully their heads will also explode. Yeah!!!!!! This one for their rear light is weird, quote "A sleep mode is triggered after one minute of inaction to save power, any vibration will immediately re-activate the unit". So the light will go out while waiting at an intersection? Really? Nobody raised their hand during the design review? Was there even a design review? First, their definition of "sleep mode" may not be "goes out." It could, I suppose, just become much dimmer. In any case, it would be easy enough to jiggle the bike a bit to turn it back on. Not very smart on the part of the design engineers. But it's probably not necessary. Ohio law specifically permits lights that go out when the bike is stationary, ... Not a smart decision by the lawmakers. ... and there's never been a report of a death or serious injury caused by that feature. Grandpa drove without a seat belt all his life and never go hurt, so ... Grandpa also rode his bicycle without a six foot tall safety flag, a siren, a bell constantly and automatically ringing every time he moved, pads on his knees, pads on his elbows, body armor protecting his spine. Why are you not using all those measures? (Actually, maybe you are. With you, we never know.) BTW, it even happens from the front, even by police officers: https://fox2now.com/2018/07/30/polic...hone-in-video/ Nothing can replace bright light other than even brighter lights. Which both of my bikes have. Joerg, you're the master of the worldwide search for the vanishingly rare exception. That is NOT a common crash type, as any dispassionate search of the literature would shoe. And you have no evidence that your daytime headlight would have prevented it. Looks like the video has been taken down, at least fox2now.com can't find it. Works fine here. Works for me now, no more "video unavailable". ... The accident happened in broad daylight, no vehicles save the cop SUV and the cyclist visible for miles, cyclist waiting at an intersection, I think for a stop sign. Total f*up on the part of the cop, who was more or less apologetic. A daytime running light would not have helped. Not true. I clearly found that drivers notice me much better with bright lights. Even in the corner of their eyes is enough because it "distracts" them in a good way. All it takes is noticing a cyclist a second or two earlier and a collision can be avoided. Seriously? The cop would have looked up from his phone if only the cyclist had had a light? Sounds like magic. Easy to try. While distracted with some chore in your home, have someone walk towards you pointing a bright but not blinding LED flashlight. It works. A human eye is not insensitive in the directions where one does not look, just less sensitive. The "muffling effect" needs to be overcome and intense light is just about the only method to achieve that. This wasn't inside, it was outside in bright daylight, looked like hardly a cloud in the sky. Try this in daylight. It works. ... A really bright light is required to make much difference in that case. Bingo! Now you know why I have bright lights on my bikes. I experienced it again yesterday. I had to ride through city streets for many miles, partially at max speed. With the light fully on nobody cut into my path. Without lights that is different. Other clue: You are driving a car, looking ahead into traffic as you are supposed to do. The dashboard becomes largely unnoticed except for the occasional glance at the speedometer. However, when the yellow check engine light, the red oil pressure light, the overtemp light or the low fuel light comes on it is immediately noticed. Same if someone behind you flashes their headlights even while you aren't looking into the rear view mirror. That only happens if you have the habit, perhaps not completely conscious, of scanning the dashboard. How do you know it's "immediate"? You notice it when you notice it, and if it's 10 seconds after the event that's not a big problem, unlike the case for traffic on the road. If bright enough or if a less bright light in flashing mode I see that immediately. An airline pilot could even lose his license if he didn't. If bright enough... that is exactly what I said, isn't it. But a great many cars do not have bright warning lights. As for airline pilots... I can't speak for the airlines but USAF bombers have a very bright master warning light located at eye level on the instrument panel that comes on if any of the individual warring lights are illuminated. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciator_panel "More complicated aircraft will feature "Master Warning" and "Master Caution" lights/switches. In the event of any red or yellow annunciator being activated, the yellow or red master light, usually located elsewhere in the pilot's line of sight, will illuminate. In most installations they will flash and an audible alert will accompany them. These "masters" will not stop flashing until they have been acknowledged, usually by pressing the light itself" You have exactly described what I mean. My front annunciator to car drivers is roughly in their line of sight and very bright. The rear one isn't so bright put pulsates. Not irritatingly but gently dimming up and down in random fashion like police cruiser lights. So even if drivers are distracted and glancing over to a GPS screen or cell phone they notice. Which is all I want. It works. A small price to pay for safety. I've got less than $50 worth of material in there and the total weight is around 1lbs due to a fairly large Li-Ion battery. That on is only large on the road bike, for 4-5h rides. "A small price to pay for safety"? You mean that after having spent only $50 you are now totally safe? The mountain lions and the milk cows can't harm you any more? I linked earlier to the guy wearing a safety jacket similar to Jay's: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Liverpool.html The shooter got away SAFELY on his bicycle, due at least in part to his magic garment. Hi-Viz saves lives, even if sometimes the lives of murderers. Magic, in its literary form anyway, tends to create plot turns like that. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 08:01:34 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2018-10-06 16:30, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 11:59:57 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-06 09:14, jbeattie wrote: On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 8:20:28 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-05 09:21, jbeattie wrote: On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 7:31:57 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-04 20:34, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 10/4/2018 3:34 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-10-04 12:18, jbeattie wrote: It takes very little light to be conspicuous at night, and it takes no additional light to be conspicuous during the day -- assuming broad daylight without cloud cover or other low-light condition. My experience is clearly different. Your experiences are almost always unique, not just different. Yet strangely, it jibes with that of our government folks. Why do you think they mandate DRL on motorcycles? And yet motorcycles are the one category of MVs in Oregon with increasing fatality rates. e.g. http://www.eastoregonian.com/eo/loca...king-this-year You of all people, having been an amulance driver, should know the reason. The reason is this behavior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkWWVryT1UE That is the road where I was almost clipped by a motorcyclist. He didn't anticipate that there could be a mountain bike in a right turn, hugged the curve at high speed and ... "GAAAH!". I heard his engine screaming but didn't have anywhere to go because of a wall of rock to my right. He needed the full oncoming lane to get the situation somewhat under control. Imagine what would have happened if there'd been oncoming traffic. Did you have your super-bright light on? Of course. ... Did it prevent the motorcyclist from being an asshole? If not, you need a much brighter light. You need the Asshole Eliminator from Magicshine -- 60,600 lumen high rate flasher. Run it all the time. The light is for regular straight stretches of road, it won't help in tight curves. Though it might cause motorists to recognize me fractions of a second earlier. Then why are you telling us the motorcycle story if it is not to illustrate that bright DRLs are needed? If you just want to talk about assholes in cars or motorcycles, that is rather mundane and has nothing to do with lights. sigh I bring these examples to show just _who_ is on such roads. Drivers that are reckless, inattentive, incompetent, slow in reaction speed, soused, stoned, or all of the above. And studies have shown that cyclists who are involved in accidents are likely to be "reckless, inattentive, incompetent, slow in reaction speed, soused, stoned, or all of the above." And your post about being seen by on-coming, passing cars on straight stretches, you seem to confuse being seen with playing chicken. I ride on country roads all the time where cars in on-coming traffic get into my lane to pass. They can see me. I'm looking right at them. They just don't care. Being that I'm not riding a 3 ton F350, I pull to the right. A magical light doesn't change that dynamic. It does because I notice that with the light on fewer people attempt such maneuvers. I did a short ride today -- my legs are killing me, and I haven't been off my bike for weeks. It's overcast and rained this morning. I saw maybe thirty other cyclists on my little climbing route -- maybe two with DRLs. No deaths to report. No breathless hysterics, stranded people, incompetents with exploded tubeless tires. Totally normal, at least by Portland standards, which for you might be super scary since I'm riding on city streets at full speed! Eeek! I hear a lot of cyclists saying the legs hurt. For me it's never the legs, those are always fine. I run out of breath and become generally exhausted on long hilly rides. My legs could go on another 50mi but the rest of my body doesn't want to. -- Cheers John B. |
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