Training for Century?

In article , Frederic Briere
writes:


According to some Googling, effective carbs are an attempt to reflect
more closely the effect of carbs on blood sugar levels. For example,
dietary fiber is technically a carbohydrate, but is not digested by the
body, so it shouldn't really "count". Such carbs are therefore labeled
as non-effective, and withdrawn from the total.

There's some controversy on the Atkins front about which carbs are truly
not effective, but for you and me, I guess substracting the fiber amount
is good enough. (I assume you wouldn't eat plain energy bars if you
were on Atkins.)

is one more. To confuse the issue even more on the lone Cliff bar that I
have,
an Apricot, it lists Total Carbs and Other Carbs. Does that mean the total
carb
number of 48 gram includes the other carbs of 22 grams or is it plus the
other

(Damn, I wish MEC started selling more flavors...)

Here's the breakdown of an apricot Clif bar, taken from clifbar.com:

- Total carbs: 48g
- Dietary fiber: 5g
- Sugars: 21g
- Other carbs: 22g

The effective carbs amount would therefore be 43g (21+22).

The amount of simple/complex or low-GI/high-GI carbs is left as an
exercise to the reader.



Add to my problems of worrying about total carb count. After using Premier
Protein Bars for over a year I think I developing an allergy to them. Either
that or its the new Protein lo carb drinks I've been using for a month. I have
used Whey and Soy protein powders in smoothies or just water with out any
problems. And never had any reaction to Power Bars, Cliff Bars, or Premier Bars
before now. Suddenly, after I eat a protein bar I slowly start getting itchy on
my hands, feet, and back. This feeling lasts for about two hours. I cut every
thing out for the past 3 days and no symptoms. I'm going to drink a lo carb
drink tonight and see if the symptoms re-occur. Anyone else have any
experiences such as this. BTW I have never been allergic to nuts etc before
now, just coffee (Yes coffee) and penecillin.

In article , "Roger Zoul"
writes:

So you guys are saying that "little dude"played me, right?

Maybe, depends how many times you "almost caught him" before he ran off and
left you.grin

Add to my problems of worrying about total carb count. After using
Premier
Protein Bars for over a year I think I developing an allergy to them.
Either
that or its the new Protein lo carb drinks I've been using for a month. I
have
used Whey and Soy protein powders in smoothies or just water with out any
problems. And never had any reaction to Power Bars, Cliff Bars, or Premier
Bars
before now. Suddenly, after I eat a protein bar I slowly start getting
itchy on
my hands, feet, and back. This feeling lasts for about two hours. I cut
every
thing out for the past 3 days and no symptoms. I'm going to drink a lo
carb
drink tonight and see if the symptoms re-occur. Anyone else have any
experiences such as this. BTW I have never been allergic to nuts etc
before
now, just coffee (Yes coffee) and penecillin.

allergies come and go. My son is now allergic to cats. He became allergic at
age 20. When you are itchy, do your fingers swell?

Pat in TX

"whinds" wrote in message
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In article et, "Claire
Petersky" writes:

Thanks for the links Claire. Great Photos. How long is the Sammamish
Trail?
Looks nice.

The SRT is about 15 miles, and then it connects on to the Burke-Gilman
Trail, making a total distance of 27 miles. It's a rail-trail. Sections of
it are heavily used, especially near downtown Redmond. It's a fine trail for
riding with your kids (see this old post: http://tinyurl.com/4uo4m). If
you're a Serious Cyclist (tm) though, you should avoid it, unless it's 6:30
AM and raining on a chilly March morning. There are plenty of alternatives.


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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:29:42 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
wrote:

"whinds" wrote in message
...
In article et, "Claire
Petersky" writes:

Thanks for the links Claire. Great Photos. How long is the Sammamish
Trail?
Looks nice.

The SRT is about 15 miles, and then it connects on to the Burke-Gilman
Trail, making a total distance of 27 miles. It's a rail-trail. Sections of
it are heavily used, especially near downtown Redmond. It's a fine trail for
riding with your kids (see this old post: http://tinyurl.com/4uo4m). If
you're a Serious Cyclist (tm) though, you should avoid it, unless it's 6:30
AM and raining on a chilly March morning. There are plenty of alternatives.

Do these trails have any kind of speed limit for bike? Anything posted?

-B

In article , "Pat" writes:


allergies come and go. My son is now allergic to cats. He became allergic at
age 20. When you are itchy, do your fingers swell?

Pat in TX


No, no swelling of fingers. I had a harrowing experience with my wife reacting
to shrimp.
We were eating shrimp about once a week and she complained of itching. We
thought it was dust mites. Neither of us ever had reaction to shrimp before,
one week we had eaten shrimp at home and then ate out in a restaurant later in
the week. Very scary, and a long off topic story. She ended up in a hospital
over night and now carries an "epi pen" where-ever she goes, avoiding all shell
fish.
I was witness to this scary reaction and know if I had such a reaction on a
long solo ride my chances of survival would be next to none. Once the reaction
started she quickly slid from semi concious to unconcious, her eyes swelled
shut and was having difficulty breathing before the paramedics responded.

Returning to topic. The above is an example of reasons for not eating anything
you are not completely familiar and comfortable with when on a century ride. On
reflection it is probably not the bars that I have used but the new canned low
carb drink. I'm definitly not going to test the drink before a ride.

"Badger_South" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:29:42 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
wrote:

"whinds" wrote in message
...
In article et,
"Claire
Petersky" writes:

Thanks for the links Claire. Great Photos. How long is the Sammamish
Trail?
Looks nice.

The SRT is about 15 miles, and then it connects on to the Burke-Gilman
Trail, making a total distance of 27 miles. It's a rail-trail. Sections
of
it are heavily used, especially near downtown Redmond. It's a fine trail
for
riding with your kids (see this old post: http://tinyurl.com/4uo4m). If
you're a Serious Cyclist (tm) though, you should avoid it, unless it's
6:30
AM and raining on a chilly March morning. There are plenty of
alternatives.

Do these trails have any kind of speed limit for bike? Anything posted?

The speed limit for the SRT/BGT is 15 mph. There are sections that are
posted at 10 mph, particularly at underpasses, where there is limited sight
distance.

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Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 22:53:44 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
wrote:

The speed limit for the SRT/BGT is 15 mph. There are sections that are
posted at 10 mph, particularly at underpasses, where there is limited sight
distance.

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Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky

I'm doing a survey of the speed limits of MUTs, and it appears that either
no posted limit, or if posted, 15mph to 20mph is the most common.

Hypothetically if one is accused of 'going too fast' on an unposted trail,
producing evidence of average speed well under that on a cyclocomputer,
along with printouts showing that 15mph is common would help exhonerate
them.

Although I can see why a ped might think 15mph is too fast, but lacking a
guage, 12mph would also seem similarly fast to them. If otherwise riding
safely and slowing as needed if passing, anyone should not feel guilty for
ignoring their uninformed request if they stay around 15mph - would the
group not agree?

-B

"Badger_South" wrote in message
news
I'm doing a survey of the speed limits of MUTs, and it appears that either
no posted limit, or if posted, 15mph to 20mph is the most common.

Hypothetically if one is accused of 'going too fast' on an unposted trail,
producing evidence of average speed well under that on a cyclocomputer,
along with printouts showing that 15mph is common would help exhonerate
them.

What about a cop with a radar gun? They've been there, along the Burke
Gilman Trail, in the past. It doesn't matter if you've averaged around 15,
if you were going 20 in a 10 mph zone.


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Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 00:17:41 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
wrote:

"Badger_South" wrote in message
news
I'm doing a survey of the speed limits of MUTs, and it appears that either
no posted limit, or if posted, 15mph to 20mph is the most common.

Hypothetically if one is accused of 'going too fast' on an unposted trail,
producing evidence of average speed well under that on a cyclocomputer,
along with printouts showing that 15mph is common would help exhonerate
them.

What about a cop with a radar gun? They've been there, along the Burke
Gilman Trail, in the past. It doesn't matter if you've averaged around 15,
if you were going 20 in a 10 mph zone.

Thanks, but you probably missed that I said 'unposted' trail, i.e., no
speed limit is posted at all. No signs, nothing. Occasionally I have peds
say 'slow down'. I don't really know why they say that, b/c I don't buzz
people, give ample warning, and both the times recently I was only doing
about 8mph. I do hit the breaks when I pass people.

You can't really get a workout on the flats at 10mph - I feel it's
reasonable to go 15 and unreasonable for a ped to expect otherwise. I'm one
of about three bikers that ride at speed. The peds act as though I'm riding
where I'm not supposed to, and that bikes have no business on -their-
doggie walking trail. At first I thought, 'gee, maybe I am riding too fast,
wonder what other trails have as posted limits'. But then after doing a web
search, I find 15mph on MUTs is very common, so now I don't feel as though
I'm doing anything wrong. Most of the ppl I pass at speed just smile and
say 'hi', or something. So I'm left with the impression that some ppl are
just nervous, and it's not my job to placate them. Still I'm a bit worried
that those nervous nellies will call the cops and complain, and probably
exaggerate. So my defense would be to show the cop my avg speed, and a copy
of some websearches with that common 15mph and argue I'm not doing anything
abnormal.

-B