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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 01:53:04 +0100
Emanuel Berg wrote: Mine are ex-military Britool from a motorcycle autojumble. Not quite up to Snap-On quality, but still good. I don't use them them on bicycles though, just use my hands ;-) Shouldn't ex-military British stuff be very good? Hey, it is where the industrial revolution began. And where supplying goods that were absolutely as in the shops but with millitary markings applied for ten times the price began. By the way, if the industrial revolution happened in the southern hemisphere, do you think we would put screws in the other way around? If they were all southpaws, yes. Mike |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:22:54 -0800
Joerg wrote: I use a regular wrench, note the length, calculate the required pull force at the end and then I use a suitcase scales that my sister gave me. A digital one with a hook where you normally lift a suitcase with to see if it is still under the required 50lbs. Under $10. To get to 150lbf-ft for the front wheel bearings on a BMC Mini (not the BMW MINI) I'd put a stout tube on the end of the breaker bar then calculate where to stand on it. To undo ditto but stand further out & jump on the tube. Mike |
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Joerg wrote:
OK, now at least I know I was wrong the last time I suspected I was wrong. How the ... does that work...? Amazing, you pull a ring and the hole thing tightens up? scratching head Which ring? The usual cassettes have a large flat screw with a wide rim around it. Yes. BTW thanks for the YT links! Indeed, there is no denying this can be done without a torque wrench. I have seen supposedly professional bike tools that are just a shaft and then the special socket. However a torque wrench kan be handy in other cases as well, not just with bikes. With the half-inch attachment. Because I take it the special "closed-toothed" socket (?) isn't used in other applications? I only saw them on bikes, cranks (bigger) and now the cassette, for sure. -- underground experts united .... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic ......... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic - so far: 69 Blogomatic articles - with: #moasen @ irc.freenode.net 6667 |
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On 2017-03-07 10:50, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Joerg wrote: OK, now at least I know I was wrong the last time I suspected I was wrong. How the ... does that work...? Amazing, you pull a ring and the hole thing tightens up? scratching head Which ring? The usual cassettes have a large flat screw with a wide rim around it. Yes. BTW thanks for the YT links! Indeed, there is no denying this can be done without a torque wrench. I have seen supposedly professional bike tools that are just a shaft and then the special socket. However a torque wrench kan be handy in other cases as well, not just with bikes. With the half-inch attachment. Because I take it the special "closed-toothed" socket (?) isn't used in other applications? I only saw them on bikes, cranks (bigger) and now the cassette, for sure. Yeah, that's the bane of many bicycle parts. Instead of making the parts so they fit regular wrenches you need a special tool for just about everything beyond adjusting saddle or brakes. If you are serious about servicing your bikes yourself get a complete toolkit. I have this kind: http://www.nashbar.com/webapp/wcs/st...2_524452_-1___ Not everything in such kits is high-end but I found that if you are using it just once in a while it's sufficient. Some things like the triangular spoke wrench are really good. If there is nothing available for a decent price in your country Rose in Germany seems to have similar kits: https://www.rosebikes.de/artikel/ros...fer/aid:711694 Unless you have very exotic parts on the bike that usually takes care of all the common maintenance jobs. Jobs like "Oh, now my bottom bracket is shot and I need to install a replacement" or "How do I get that square-taper crank off?". -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2017-03-07 10:47, Mike Causer wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:22:54 -0800 Joerg wrote: I use a regular wrench, note the length, calculate the required pull force at the end and then I use a suitcase scales that my sister gave me. A digital one with a hook where you normally lift a suitcase with to see if it is still under the required 50lbs. Under $10. To get to 150lbf-ft for the front wheel bearings on a BMC Mini (not the BMW MINI) I'd put a stout tube on the end of the breaker bar then calculate where to stand on it. To undo ditto but stand further out & jump on the tube. You must be a very lightweight guy. I'd have broken that off :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 3/7/2017 1:38 PM, Mike Causer wrote:
On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 01:53:04 +0100 Emanuel Berg wrote: By the way, if the industrial revolution happened in the southern hemisphere, do you think we would put screws in the other way around? If they were all southpaws, yes. But if clocks were first invented there, I'll bet they'd run "counter-clockwise." Or "anti-clockwise." Or "widdershins." -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 3/7/2017 1:47 PM, Mike Causer wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:22:54 -0800 Joerg wrote: I use a regular wrench, note the length, calculate the required pull force at the end and then I use a suitcase scales that my sister gave me. A digital one with a hook where you normally lift a suitcase with to see if it is still under the required 50lbs. Under $10. To get to 150lbf-ft for the front wheel bearings on a BMC Mini (not the BMW MINI) I'd put a stout tube on the end of the breaker bar then calculate where to stand on it. To undo ditto but stand further out & jump on the tube. Yep. I did the same thing with VW Bus rear axle nuts. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 2017-03-07 12:30, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/7/2017 1:47 PM, Mike Causer wrote: On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:22:54 -0800 Joerg wrote: I use a regular wrench, note the length, calculate the required pull force at the end and then I use a suitcase scales that my sister gave me. A digital one with a hook where you normally lift a suitcase with to see if it is still under the required 50lbs. Under $10. To get to 150lbf-ft for the front wheel bearings on a BMC Mini (not the BMW MINI) I'd put a stout tube on the end of the breaker bar then calculate where to stand on it. To undo ditto but stand further out & jump on the tube. Yep. I did the same thing with VW Bus rear axle nuts. When I was young I was tapping and fitting a large electrical cage. One of the crane hooks (16mm metric thread) was recalcitrant, so I leaned in and used a foot to push away and into the wrench when suddenly ... *POCK* ... chingalingaling. I kept quiet, licked my wounds, drilled it out and got another hook from the stock room. At the time of reckoning the boss noticed five crane hooks on the BOM instead of four. "You did WHAT? Wow. Show me!". Breaking that hook really impressed the guys :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Joerg wrote:
Not everything in such kits is high-end but I found that if you are using it just once in a while it's sufficient. Some things like the triangular spoke wrench are really good. If there is nothing available for a decent price in your country Rose in Germany seems to have similar kits: No, I like kits in terms of the most basic which is combination spanners, sockets, bits, ratchet driver and shaft, taps and cut, like all-mechanic stuff, however for bike-specific purposes I like to buy them one by one and really get to enjoy getting them, doing "care of kit", thinking what they can do, how - it is a very pleasant game and I don't want to waste it all at once Unless you have very exotic parts I have tools that are by now exotic - and hopefully I'll paste a picture of some of them tonight... -- underground experts united .... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic ......... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic - so far: 69 Blogomatic articles - with: #moasen @ irc.freenode.net 6667 |
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On 2017-03-07 14:01, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Joerg wrote: Not everything in such kits is high-end but I found that if you are using it just once in a while it's sufficient. Some things like the triangular spoke wrench are really good. If there is nothing available for a decent price in your country Rose in Germany seems to have similar kits: No, I like kits in terms of the most basic which is combination spanners, sockets, bits, ratchet driver and shaft, taps and cut, like all-mechanic stuff, however for bike-specific purposes I like to buy them one by one and really get to enjoy getting them, doing "care of kit", thinking what they can do, how - it is a very pleasant game and I don't want to waste it all at once Except then you get to pay a lot more money for the tools that cover all aspects of your bicycles. First I was pricing out the cassette insert, the BB tools, some other stuff and soon this exceeded the cost of the whole kit but I didn't even have cone wrenches yet (my old ones are too worn out). No spoke wrench either. So I bought a kit for $50. Unless you have very exotic parts I have tools that are by now exotic - and hopefully I'll paste a picture of some of them tonight... Yes, that would be nice. My longest lasting tools were usually my home-made ones but in my case that's all electronics tools. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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