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Old May 25th 06, 03:48 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc
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"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
All,
Here is a artical originally posted by Pete Rissler. It did not get
near enough attention, so I am reposting it:





Here's a recent study conducted by the U.S. Geological Survey on trail use
in a National River and Recreation Area for the National Park Service.

Here's a synopsis and link from the IMBA page

http://www.imba.com/news/news_releas...nps_study.html

Here's a link to the report, again off the IMBA page

http://www.imba.com/resources/scienc...nps_report.pdf

Obviously since IMBA is linking to it, the report shows mountain biking in
a
favorable light at least being no different than the impact of hiking. ATV
and Horse trails were the worse degraded. Mountain Bikes had the
smallest
width and Cross Sectional Area than the other users (ATV, Horses) though
there was no significant difference between bikes and hiking (essentially
the same). Bike trails also had the lowest amount of soil loss. In short
bike trails were in the best condition followed by hiking then horse then
ATV trails. If nothing else, the report is invaluable just for the
references.

One thing I haven't seen on these discussion between hikers, horse riders,
and mountain bikers is the spread of invasive weeds by horses into Natural
and Wilderness Areas. Since horses are herbivores they have the potential
to spread non-native plants (seeds) into new areas by defecation. This to
me is far worse than any type of trail damage caused by hikers or bikers.

Let the discussion and flaming begin!

Pete Rissler



Maybe I need to put words in like liar, idiots, stupid, etc. and write in an
accusatory tone to elicit a response. Looks like science takes a back seat
to flaming.
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Old May 26th 06, 01:44 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 07:48:51 -0700, "Pete Rissler"
wrote:

Maybe I need to put words in like liar, idiots, stupid, etc. and write in an
accusatory tone to elicit a response. Looks like science takes a back seat
to flaming.


No, I think that the post was simply self-explanatory and
comprehensive enough that those who understood it either had nothing
to add or couldn't find anything to attack. You may infer from that
fact that you're getting a response that your tactic of *not* being
intentionally insulting and/or inflammatory is part of the reason that
I don't have you plonked, unlike a certain other group of regular
irritants.

Keep it up.


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Old May 26th 06, 08:32 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc
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Pete Rissler wrote:
"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...

All,
Here is a artical originally posted by Pete Rissler. It did not get
near enough attention, so I am reposting it:





Here's a recent study conducted by the U.S. Geological Survey on trail use
in a National River and Recreation Area for the National Park Service.

Here's a synopsis and link from the IMBA page

http://www.imba.com/news/news_releas...nps_study.html

Here's a link to the report, again off the IMBA page

http://www.imba.com/resources/scienc...nps_report.pdf

Obviously since IMBA is linking to it, the report shows mountain biking in
a
favorable light at least being no different than the impact of hiking. ATV
and Horse trails were the worse degraded. Mountain Bikes had the
smallest
width and Cross Sectional Area than the other users (ATV, Horses) though
there was no significant difference between bikes and hiking (essentially
the same). Bike trails also had the lowest amount of soil loss. In short
bike trails were in the best condition followed by hiking then horse then
ATV trails. If nothing else, the report is invaluable just for the
references.

One thing I haven't seen on these discussion between hikers, horse riders,
and mountain bikers is the spread of invasive weeds by horses into Natural
and Wilderness Areas. Since horses are herbivores they have the potential
to spread non-native plants (seeds) into new areas by defecation. This to
me is far worse than any type of trail damage caused by hikers or bikers.

Let the discussion and flaming begin!

Pete Rissler




Maybe I need to put words in like liar, idiots, stupid, etc. and write in an
accusatory tone to elicit a response. Looks like science takes a back seat
to flaming.


Nice work Pete. I think a reasonable approach to posting information can
get drowned out by all the other crap. I didn't see this the first time
around.
I look forward to giving it a throrough read when I have a chance.

Matt
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Old May 27th 06, 06:35 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 07:48:51 -0700, Pete Rissler wrote:

Maybe I need to put words in like liar, idiots, stupid, etc. and write in an
accusatory tone to elicit a response. Looks like science takes a back seat
to flaming.


Its just that we've heard so many of these things over the years that its
old news. The few people who refuse to believe it will always find some
way to rationalize that its wrong; everyone else already knows better.

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