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"goofy footed" and octalink
jobst was referring to the whole 'right foot forward' position as goofy-
footed a few weeks ago (in reference to octalink failure). the left crank on my s-works (octalink) is failing in exactly this mode, and I do stand with my right foot forward. I am wondering if the name simply reflects anti-left-handed prejudice; for many ball sports involving right hands, the left foot is forward. anyhow, is this failure more common where people drive on the left side of the road? when restarting from stop lights, I always have my right foot forward, because the left foot is on the kerb. -A -- to email me, run my email address through /usr/bin/caesar (or rotate by -4) |
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anyhow, is this failure more common where people drive on the left side of
the road? when restarting from stop lights, I always have my right foot forward, because the left foot is on the kerb BRBR Think it comes from surfing, where right foot forward is 'goofy footed'. Octalink fails on MTBs much more, when jumping and landing, with the crank facing aft, more likely to be killed. Also heard of some problems with track cranks and octalink, where the cranks aren't always pushed forward. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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someone writes:
Jobst was referring to the whole 'right foot forward' position as goofy- footed a few weeks ago (in reference to octalink failure). The left crank on my s-works (octalink) is failing in exactly this mode, and I do stand with my right foot forward. I am wondering if the name simply reflects anti-left-handed prejudice; for many ball sports involving right hands, the left foot is forward. Anyhow, is this failure more common where people drive on the left side of the road? When restarting from stop lights, I always have my right foot forward, because the left foot is on the kerb. I doubt it. Most riders that I know dismount on the non-chain side of the bicycle and of course we have right hand traffic as well. The reason for stating with the right foot on the forward pedal is that it is a longer reach to the street on the off side. These people all push of with the right foot on the pedal and the fewest of them are goofy footed. I vote for no correlation although there is a strong correlation between failing octalink and goofyfootedness. Jobst Brandt |
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Jobst wrote:
I doubt it. Most riders that I know dismount on the non-chain side of the bicycle Right, the clean side. and of course we have right hand traffic as well. The reason for stating with the right foot on the forward pedal is that it is a longer reach to the street on the off side. These people all push of with the right foot on the pedal and the fewest of them are goofy footed. I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm right footed (goes with being right handed) and back when I used to usse toke lips, the idea was always to get the less skilful foot clipped in while stationary, when you could give the task as much attention as it might require. Then you start up and clip in your more skilful foot while underway. My wife has always been backwards, starting out pushing on her right foot. This took a lot of adjustment to enable us to ride a tandem together. I don't know if she's a goofy-footed coaster or not, since I can't remember the last time she was on a freewheeling bike. Speaking of Goofy...ever notice that Goofy is a biped, capable of speach, while Pluto is clearly a dog...but their faces are identical except for pigmentation? What's with that? Seems kinda goofy... Sheldon "Deep Thoughts" Brown +-------------------------------------------+ | Being ignorant is not so much a shame | | as being unwilling to learn. | | -- Benjamin Franklin | +-------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com |
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Sheldon Brown wrote in
: Jobst wrote: I doubt it. Most riders that I know dismount on the non-chain side of the bicycle Right, the clean side. I wasn't referring to dismounting, which only happens once per ride (hopefully!). and of course we have right hand traffic as well. The reason for stating with the right foot on the forward pedal is that it is a longer reach to the street on the off side. These people all push of with the right foot on the pedal and the fewest of them are goofy footed. I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm right footed (goes with being right handed) and back when I used to usse toke lips, the idea was always to get the less skilful foot clipped in while stationary, when you could give the task as much attention as it might require. Then you start up and clip in your more skilful foot while underway. Aye, but you're both from the USA. At traffic lights, I only ever unclip my left because that is the side which is usually higher; one of my unclipping accidents involved stopping at the lights while leaving my right foot clipped in, leaning over to see something, and being sufficiently top- heavy to fall over in front of traffic (which was thankfully stopped). How difficult is it to use toe clips? I went straight from flats to SPD. -- to email me, run my email address through /usr/bin/caesar (or rotate by -4) |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:46:59 -0400, Sheldon Brown
wrote: Jobst wrote: I doubt it. Most riders that I know dismount on the non-chain side of the bicycle Right, the clean side. and of course we have right hand traffic as well. The reason for stating with the right foot on the forward pedal is that it is a longer reach to the street on the off side. These people all push of with the right foot on the pedal and the fewest of them are goofy footed. I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm right footed (goes with being right handed) and back when I used to usse toke lips, the idea was always to get the less skilful foot clipped in while stationary, when you could give the task as much attention as it might require. Then you start up and clip in your more skilful foot while underway. My wife has always been backwards, starting out pushing on her right foot. This took a lot of adjustment to enable us to ride a tandem together. I don't know if she's a goofy-footed coaster or not, since I can't remember the last time she was on a freewheeling bike. Speaking of Goofy...ever notice that Goofy is a biped, capable of speach, while Pluto is clearly a dog...but their faces are identical except for pigmentation? What's with that? Seems kinda goofy... Sheldon "Deep Thoughts" Brown +-------------------------------------------+ | Being ignorant is not so much a shame | | as being unwilling to learn. | | -- Benjamin Franklin | +-------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com Dear Sheldon, The Disney dogs shared more than just faces. Both Goofy's speech and Pluto's less articulate noises came from the same fellow, Vance "Pinto" Colvig: http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Pinto%20...page=biography Sincerely, Bozo the Clown |
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I wrote:
I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm right footed (goes with being right handed) and back when I used to usse toke lips, the idea was always to get the less skilful foot clipped in while stationary, when you could give the task as much attention as it might require. Then you start up and clip in your more skilful foot while underway. "qtq" wrote: when restarting from stop lights, I always have my right foot forward, because the left foot is on the kerb. Aye, but you're both from the USA. At traffic lights, I only ever unclip my left because that is the side which is usually higher; Due to crowned roads, the left side is usually higher in the U.S. I am rarely close enough to the curb/kerb to put a foot on it. In U.S. traffic it is usually dangerous to be that far right unless you are preparing to make a right turn. How difficult is it to use toe clips? I went straight from flats to SPD. Learning to use toe clips is MUCH harder than learning to use SPDs. Eventually it becomes pretty automatic, but it takes a lot longer for this to happen. Sheldon "Used Toe Clips For 35 Years" Brown +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Wink at small faults; remember thou hast great ones. | | -- Benjamin Franklin | +----------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com |
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Sheldon Brown Wrote: I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm right footed (goes with being right handed) It's not quite that straight forward, and being right handed is n guarantee for being right footed. Left-handedness runs at about 10 % o the population while goofy-footedness is at about 25% -- dabac |
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"Sheldon Brown" wrote in message ... I wrote: I've always started pushing with my left foot. Reason is 'cause I'm right footed (goes with being right handed) and back when I used to usse toke lips, the idea was always to get the less skilful foot clipped in while stationary, when you could give the task as much attention as it might require. Then you start up and clip in your more skilful foot while underway. "qtq" wrote: when restarting from stop lights, I always have my right foot forward, because the left foot is on the kerb. Aye, but you're both from the USA. At traffic lights, I only ever unclip my left because that is the side which is usually higher; Due to crowned roads, the left side is usually higher in the U.S. I am rarely close enough to the curb/kerb to put a foot on it. In U.S. traffic it is usually dangerous to be that far right unless you are preparing to make a right turn. How difficult is it to use toe clips? I went straight from flats to SPD. Learning to use toe clips is MUCH harder than learning to use SPDs. Eventually it becomes pretty automatic, but it takes a lot longer for this to happen. Although those teeny one-sided SPD pedals are way harder than toe clips. I do miss that tutti pack wobble at the beginning of races when everyone reached down to tighten their toe straps. -- Jay Beattie. |
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