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On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything else is trivial detail. |
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On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything else is trivial detail. But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified', "Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code. The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short Cut". |
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On 22/12/2020 00:33, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything else is trivial detail. But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified', "Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code. It's a good response to those that say that cyclists should pass test, be insured and pay tax. But there is plenty in the Highway Code that is only useful for rote learning for a quiz show but it serves no practical purpose knowing it word for word. Braking distances, for instance. Some people can quote the numbers but how many sit in the car and point to the spot on the road that is so many metres ahead? Can you do that? And if you can, what practical use is it? The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short Cut". The point is that knowledge doesn't stop people doing such things. |
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On 12/23/20 10:13 AM, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/12/2020 00:33, Mike Collins wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything else is trivial detail. But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified', "Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code. It's a good response to those that say that cyclists should pass test, be insured and pay tax. But there is plenty in the Highway Code that is only useful for rote learning for a quiz show but it serves no practical purpose knowing it word for word. Braking distances, for instance. Some people can quote the numbers but how many sit in the car and point to the spot on the road that is so many metres ahead? Can you do that? And if you can, what practical use is it? Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier. Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"? The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short Cut". The point is that knowledge doesn't stop people doing such things. Yes, but is amusing when the pontificate on it :-) |
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On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote:
On 12/23/20 10:13 AM, TMS320 wrote: On 22/12/2020 00:33, Mike Collins wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 09:36:05 UTC, TMS320 wrote: On 21/12/2020 00:19, Mike Collins wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGX_4u90dg After red has gone out you are allowed to cross the line. Anything else is trivial detail. But it demonstrates how much these 'Highly Trained', 'Qualified', "Rude Tax paying' motorists know about the Highway Code. It's a good response to those that say that cyclists should pass test, be insured and pay tax. But there is plenty in the Highway Code that is only useful for rote learning for a quiz show but it serves no practical purpose knowing it word for word. Braking distances, for instance. Some people can quote the numbers but how many sit in the car and point to the spot on the road that is so many metres ahead? Can you do that? And if you can, what practical use is it? Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier. Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"? That only helps to avoid running into the back of the vehicle ahead where the driver of it has had to react to the pedestrian in the road. If you sit in the driving seat and have a person walk away from your car to the point where you might be able to avoid running them over from 30mph, it is actually quite thought provoking. The majority of 'Law Abiding' motorists think you only have to stop at a red light after is has been red for 30 seconds, speed limits are optional and Pedestrian Zone is pronounced 'Free Car Park' or 'Short Cut". The point is that knowledge doesn't stop people doing such things. Yes, but is amusing when the pontificate on it :-) Indeed. |
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On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote:
Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier. Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"? That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop should they 'slam on'. It has nothing to do with red lights. |
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On 12/27/20 11:56 AM, soup wrote:
On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote: Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier. Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"? That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop should they 'slam on'.Â* It has nothing to do with red lights. So you think there is merit in memorizing speed vs stopping distances? |
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On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 7:24:22 PM UTC, Tosspot wrote:
On 12/27/20 11:56 AM, soup wrote: On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote: Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier. Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"? That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop should they 'slam on'. It has nothing to do with red lights. So you think there is merit in memorizing speed vs stopping distances? We spell it as "memorising" in UK English. |
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On 27/12/2020 19:24, Tosspot wrote:
On 12/27/20 11:56 AM, soup wrote: On 26/12/2020 11:52, Tosspot wrote: Yes, but I always thought the old 2 second rule was *much* easier. Remember the old "Only a fool breaks the two second rule"? That's distance to follow a vehicle to give you enough time to stop should they 'slam on'.Â* It has nothing to do with red lights. So you think there is merit in memorizing speed vs stopping distances? Only for pub quizzes. In real life, the issue is dealt with by instinct, knowledge of the vehicle's braking capacity, "feel" for road surfaces, etc. When the Ford Fiesta was a new thing, I had one. The brakes, even though servo-assisted, were atrocious. I had it back in the workshop several times to be adjusted, tested on the rolling road machine, etc. They said the brakes were OK. I knew they weren't. Certainly not as good as those on the Mini I'd part-ex'd for it. Bit by bit, I learned to adjust and make allowances, but I was never happy with it. You shouldn't have to make allowances like that. |
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