Professional use of proper size wrench

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 10:43:01 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:39:04 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 8:34:37 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:52:37 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2019 4:13 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 3:48:58 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/14/2019 6:38 PM, AK wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wat...ault/971662496


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I can strongly sympathize with her not wanting to let someone steal from their shop.

When the guy mentioned "shooting", it may have have been better to call the police.

With the good camera footage, there is a chance at an arrest.


Huh?

When seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.


People who have never had need for the police haven't even a passing understanding of self defense.

Hence why a lot of gun owners believe the adage, "It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it".

Cheers


Although that's true, responsible firearms owners, hell
responsible people generally, seek first and foremost to
avoid that sort of situation. Nobody wants to be George
Zimmerman.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Sometime you can't avoid a bad situation.

I had an instance where two friends of mine were attacked
on my front verandah. My sister phoned the police when we saw the
blood on the two. They had been attacked by six guys. I fired one
blank round from a 7.62mm NATO semi-automatic rifle and let the
assailants see the next round going into the chamber. They all left
rather quickly. VBEG ONE HALF HOUR later the police finally showed up.
I believe in that saying, "it's better to have a gun and not need it
than to need a gun and not have it". I also like the saying, iirc from
the US Marine Corps that, "Gun control is hitting what you are aiming
at".


But, you were shooting blanks :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

No. Only the first round was a blank the other 19 were live rounds and
I was quite prepared to use them if I had to. The important thing is
that the six assailants thought that I'd use them too.

Typing this reminds me of the incident. What I now find interesting is
that even though the six assailants were found and were found to be on
drugs and alcohol, NONE of them were ever charged for anything. The
police were a real big help that day - not!

Cheers

And had you shot one or more it might well have been you the police
apprehended :-(
--
cheers,

John B.

And had I not fired that rifle there would have been two dead friends. At least I and my friends would have been alive and "self defense" in that case would be a pretty strong defense.

Cheers

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 10:43:01 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:39:04 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 8:34:37 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:52:37 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2019 4:13 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 3:48:58 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/14/2019 6:38 PM, AK wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wat...ault/971662496


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I can strongly sympathize with her not wanting to let someone steal from their shop.

When the guy mentioned "shooting", it may have have been better to call the police.

With the good camera footage, there is a chance at an arrest.


Huh?

When seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.


People who have never had need for the police haven't even a passing understanding of self defense.

Hence why a lot of gun owners believe the adage, "It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it".

Cheers


Although that's true, responsible firearms owners, hell
responsible people generally, seek first and foremost to
avoid that sort of situation. Nobody wants to be George
Zimmerman.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Sometime you can't avoid a bad situation.

I had an instance where two friends of mine were attacked
on my front verandah. My sister phoned the police when we saw the
blood on the two. They had been attacked by six guys. I fired one
blank round from a 7.62mm NATO semi-automatic rifle and let the
assailants see the next round going into the chamber. They all left
rather quickly. VBEG ONE HALF HOUR later the police finally showed up.
I believe in that saying, "it's better to have a gun and not need it
than to need a gun and not have it". I also like the saying, iirc from
the US Marine Corps that, "Gun control is hitting what you are aiming
at".


But, you were shooting blanks :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

No. Only the first round was a blank the other 19 were live rounds and
I was quite prepared to use them if I had to. The important thing is
that the six assailants thought that I'd use them too.

Typing this reminds me of the incident. What I now find interesting is
that even though the six assailants were found and were found to be on
drugs and alcohol, NONE of them were ever charged for anything. The
police were a real big help that day - not!

Cheers

And had you shot one or more it might well have been you the police
apprehended :-(
--
cheers,

John B.

And had I not fired that rifle there would have been two dead friends.
rAt least I and my friends would have been alive and "self defense" in
that case would be a pretty strong defense.

Cheers

Perhaps.And probably depending on where you lived.
--
cheers,

John B.

On 8/15/2019 5:38 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/15/2019 3:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

When seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.


People who have never had need for the police haven't even a passing understanding of self defense.

I did need the police here once. There was an obviously sick raccoon
stumbling around our yard. I called the cops because there's a village
ordinance against shooting a firearm within village limits, and raccoons
frequently carry rabies.

The pleasant young cop (one I hadn't met before) came within about three
minutes. He shot the raccoon and we disposed of the corpse together in
the nearby woods.

I once defended our garden from a marauding groundhog, but that required
only a pellet gun and a club.

--
- Frank Krygowski

They didn't take the dead racoon away for testing for rabies? Amazing!

He didn't send it for rabies testing. Perhaps it was because he was
relatively new on the job, and neither of us thought about it. Perhaps
it was because it's not uncommon for raccoons to be rabid, so what
difference would it make?

Vaguely similar: I once went to see my doctor about a certain complaint.
He said "Well, we could send a sample out for a lab test, but I've seen
this so often I'm really sure what it is. Instead of paying and waiting
for those results, I can give you a prescription. If it works, I'm right
and there was no need for a lab test. If it doesn't work, we can do the
test."

He was right. He's a smart guy.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

And had I not fired that rifle there would have been two dead friends. At least I and my friends would have been alive and "self defense" in that case would be a pretty strong defense.

My motto is "KCJ beats KCH", but that's usually in the context of
riding outside the "please right-hook me" lane the the mayor painted
on Fort Wayne Street and so forth.

(Actually, Fort Wayne is easy to deal with: I use Clark instead.)

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:32:03 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 8/15/2019 5:38 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/15/2019 3:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

When seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.


People who have never had need for the police haven't even a passing understanding of self defense.

I did need the police here once. There was an obviously sick raccoon
stumbling around our yard. I called the cops because there's a village
ordinance against shooting a firearm within village limits, and raccoons
frequently carry rabies.

The pleasant young cop (one I hadn't met before) came within about three
minutes. He shot the raccoon and we disposed of the corpse together in
the nearby woods.

I once defended our garden from a marauding groundhog, but that required
only a pellet gun and a club.

--
- Frank Krygowski

They didn't take the dead racoon away for testing for rabies? Amazing!

He didn't send it for rabies testing. Perhaps it was because he was
relatively new on the job, and neither of us thought about it. Perhaps
it was because it's not uncommon for raccoons to be rabid, so what
difference would it make?

Vaguely similar: I once went to see my doctor about a certain complaint.
He said "Well, we could send a sample out for a lab test, but I've seen
this so often I'm really sure what it is. Instead of paying and waiting
for those results, I can give you a prescription. If it works, I'm right
and there was no need for a lab test. If it doesn't work, we can do the
test."

He was right. He's a smart guy.

But what does one do if one kills a rabid racoon? Head off into the
hinterlands trying to find something/one that it had bitten (:-?)
--
cheers,

John B.

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 12:29:30 AM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:32:03 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 8/15/2019 5:38 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/15/2019 3:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

When seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.


People who have never had need for the police haven't even a passing understanding of self defense.

I did need the police here once. There was an obviously sick raccoon
stumbling around our yard. I called the cops because there's a village
ordinance against shooting a firearm within village limits, and raccoons
frequently carry rabies.

The pleasant young cop (one I hadn't met before) came within about three
minutes. He shot the raccoon and we disposed of the corpse together in
the nearby woods.

I once defended our garden from a marauding groundhog, but that required
only a pellet gun and a club.

--
- Frank Krygowski

They didn't take the dead racoon away for testing for rabies? Amazing!

He didn't send it for rabies testing. Perhaps it was because he was
relatively new on the job, and neither of us thought about it. Perhaps
it was because it's not uncommon for raccoons to be rabid, so what
difference would it make?

Vaguely similar: I once went to see my doctor about a certain complaint.
He said "Well, we could send a sample out for a lab test, but I've seen
this so often I'm really sure what it is. Instead of paying and waiting
for those results, I can give you a prescription. If it works, I'm right
and there was no need for a lab test. If it doesn't work, we can do the
test."

He was right. He's a smart guy.

But what does one do if one kills a rabid racoon? Head off into the
hinterlands trying to find something/one that it had bitten (:-?)
--
cheers,

John B.

It's good to have it tested for rabies so that measures can be taken to prevent a major outbreak of it. Also it's NOT a good idea to use bare hands to handle any dead animal that might have been rabid as you could still contact rabies without being bitten. See:

https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/transmission/index.html
"Rabies virus is transmitted through direct contact (such as through broken skin or mucous membranes in the eyes, nose, or mouth) with saliva or brain/nervous system tissue from an infected animal.

People usually get rabies from the bite of a rabid animal. It is also possible, but rare, for people to get rabies from non-bite exposures, which can include scratches, abrasions, or open wounds that are exposed to saliva or other potentially infectious material from a rabid animal."

From:
https://www.elsevier.com/connect/8-t...ies-but-should

"Do not handle sick, injured or dead animals."

From:
https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/20...-and-roadkill/

"You never know whether this is a concern when you find a dead animal. Once it’s dead, you can’t tell if it’s acting strange. In general, it’s safest to assume that all such animals are infectious until proven otherwise.

If you have contact with a dead animal, avoid any direct contact with your skin, and avoid any activities that could result in splashing of fluids. Transmission of rabies from infected fluids is possible if it comes in contact with broken skin or mucous membranes like the eyes or mouth."

Cheers

On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 00:39:30 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 12:29:30 AM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:32:03 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 8/15/2019 5:38 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/15/2019 3:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

When seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.


People who have never had need for the police haven't even a passing understanding of self defense.

I did need the police here once. There was an obviously sick raccoon
stumbling around our yard. I called the cops because there's a village
ordinance against shooting a firearm within village limits, and raccoons
frequently carry rabies.

The pleasant young cop (one I hadn't met before) came within about three
minutes. He shot the raccoon and we disposed of the corpse together in
the nearby woods.

I once defended our garden from a marauding groundhog, but that required
only a pellet gun and a club.

--
- Frank Krygowski

They didn't take the dead racoon away for testing for rabies? Amazing!

He didn't send it for rabies testing. Perhaps it was because he was
relatively new on the job, and neither of us thought about it. Perhaps
it was because it's not uncommon for raccoons to be rabid, so what
difference would it make?

Vaguely similar: I once went to see my doctor about a certain complaint.
He said "Well, we could send a sample out for a lab test, but I've seen
this so often I'm really sure what it is. Instead of paying and waiting
for those results, I can give you a prescription. If it works, I'm right
and there was no need for a lab test. If it doesn't work, we can do the
test."

He was right. He's a smart guy.

But what does one do if one kills a rabid racoon? Head off into the
hinterlands trying to find something/one that it had bitten (:-?)
--
cheers,

John B.

It's good to have it tested for rabies so that measures can be taken to prevent a major outbreak of it. Also it's NOT a good idea to use bare hands to handle any dead animal that might have been rabid as you could still contact rabies without being bitten. See:

https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/transmission/index.html
"Rabies virus is transmitted through direct contact (such as through broken skin or mucous membranes in the eyes, nose, or mouth) with saliva or brain/nervous system tissue from an infected animal.

People usually get rabies from the bite of a rabid animal. It is also possible, but rare, for people to get rabies from non-bite exposures, which can include scratches, abrasions, or open wounds that are exposed to saliva or other potentially infectious material from a rabid animal."

From:
https://www.elsevier.com/connect/8-t...ies-but-should

"Do not handle sick, injured or dead animals."

From:
https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/20...-and-roadkill/

"You never know whether this is a concern when you find a dead animal. Once it’s dead, you can’t tell if it’s acting strange. In general, it’s safest to assume that all such animals are infectious until proven otherwise.

If you have contact with a dead animal, avoid any direct contact with your skin, and avoid any activities that could result in splashing of fluids. Transmission of rabies from infected fluids is possible if it comes in contact with broken skin or mucous membranes like the eyes or mouth."

Cheers

I believe that in the U.S. there have been a total of 3 people that
have contracted the disease and survived without timely administration
of the "rabies shots". That is three people in the history of the
country.

Here, where the disease isn't rare but at the same time not extremely
common, the procedure is to attempt to capture the animal and if that
isn't possible to immediately start administering the shots.

Years ago the shots were given into the stomach wall, I believe, and
were said to be very painful but more modern shots are given
intramuscularly, and I gather, not as painful.
--
cheers,

John B.

On 8/15/2019 9:51 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 10:43:01 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 18:39:04 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 8:34:37 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:52:37 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 6:05:06 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2019 4:13 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 3:48:58 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 5:21:46 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/14/2019 6:38 PM, AK wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wat...ault/971662496


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I can strongly sympathize with her not wanting to let someone steal from their shop.

When the guy mentioned "shooting", it may have have been better to call the police.

With the good camera footage, there is a chance at an arrest.


Huh?

When seconds matter, 911 is just twenty minutes away.


People who have never had need for the police haven't even a passing understanding of self defense.

Hence why a lot of gun owners believe the adage, "It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it".

Cheers


Although that's true, responsible firearms owners, hell
responsible people generally, seek first and foremost to
avoid that sort of situation. Nobody wants to be George
Zimmerman.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Sometime you can't avoid a bad situation.

I had an instance where two friends of mine were attacked
on my front verandah. My sister phoned the police when we saw the
blood on the two. They had been attacked by six guys. I fired one
blank round from a 7.62mm NATO semi-automatic rifle and let the
assailants see the next round going into the chamber. They all left
rather quickly. VBEG ONE HALF HOUR later the police finally showed up.
I believe in that saying, "it's better to have a gun and not need it
than to need a gun and not have it". I also like the saying, iirc from
the US Marine Corps that, "Gun control is hitting what you are aiming
at".


But, you were shooting blanks :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

No. Only the first round was a blank the other 19 were live rounds and
I was quite prepared to use them if I had to. The important thing is
that the six assailants thought that I'd use them too.

Typing this reminds me of the incident. What I now find interesting is
that even though the six assailants were found and were found to be on
drugs and alcohol, NONE of them were ever charged for anything. The
police were a real big help that day - not!

Cheers

And had you shot one or more it might well have been you the police
apprehended :-(
--
cheers,

John B.

And had I not fired that rifle there would have been two dead friends. At least I and my friends would have been alive and "self defense" in that case would be a pretty strong defense.

Cheers


https://wgem.com/2019/08/13/suspecte...ad-4-arrested/

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 8/15/2019 11:20 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

And had I not fired that rifle there would have been two dead friends. At least I and my friends would have been alive and "self defense" in that case would be a pretty strong defense.

My motto is "KCJ beats KCH", but that's usually in the context of
riding outside the "please right-hook me" lane the the mayor painted
on Fort Wayne Street and so forth.

(Actually, Fort Wayne is easy to deal with: I use Clark instead.)


?
Acronym Finder was no help with KCJ or KCH.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 9:15:00 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/15/2019 11:20 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:51:53 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

And had I not fired that rifle there would have been two dead friends. At least I and my friends would have been alive and "self defense" in that case would be a pretty strong defense.

My motto is "KCJ beats KCH", but that's usually in the context of
riding outside the "please right-hook me" lane the the mayor painted
on Fort Wayne Street and so forth.

(Actually, Fort Wayne is easy to deal with: I use Clark instead.)


?
Acronym Finder was no help with KCJ or KCH.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I got Komaio Airport, Komaio, Papua New Guinea for KCJ and Kuching International Airport code KCH when I searched.

Cheers