Bicycle helmet vs Skate helmet

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Question: Which helmet do you use?


- EPS - CPSC rated (skate or bicycle shape)
- Skate specific helmet
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I'm interested in peoples opinions.

Do Unicyclists go benefit from a CPSC approved EPS helmet as opposed to
the softer multiple impact rated skate helmets?

The benefits of EPS are disputed anyway.
This from Wikipedia:



Helmet liners may be too stiff to be effective. Some standards require
the use of headforms heavier and more rigid than the human head; these
are more capable of crushing foam than is the human head. In real
accidents "very little crushing of the liner foam was usually evident...
What in fact happens in a real crash impact is that the human head
deforms elastically on impact. The standard impact attenuation test
making use of a solid headform does not consider the effect of human
head deformation with the result that all acceleration attenuation
occurs in compression of the liner.

snip

In real accidents, while broken helmets are common, it is extremely
unusual to see any helmet that has compressed foam and thus may have
performed as intended. “Another source of field experience is our
experience with damaged helmets returned to customer service... I
collected damaged infant/toddler helmets for several months in 1995. Not
only did I not see bottomed out helmets, I didn’t see any helmet showing
signs of crushing on the inside.”


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I use a skate helmet. Protects more around my head and it looks much
much better imo.


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I wear a "single impact" type Mtb instead of a skate helmet for the
following reasons (in decreasing order).

The visor (I prefer a visor that's wide and streight/flat)
It's cooler
More comfortable
Lighter

Mine has a fair amount of rear protection. My next helmet (possibly
mid summer) will probably be either a Fox Flux or a Bell Variant.


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_Ground_Zero_;1152147 wrote:
I use a skate helmet. Protects more around my head and it looks much
much better imo.



Really I'm not as interested in the shape, as if it's a EPS (hard foam)
helmet or a dual density (soft foam.)


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let me save everyone some time he

'tl;dr' (http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TL%3BDR)

i've said this 10,001 times before, so 'here's a link to my site'
(http://north.geeklair.net/~ben/durrr.jpg) where i explain the 10,001
reasons why helmets are bad

helmets kill, maim, gore, are part of a government conspiracy, cause
abortions and contribute to global warming

you people are sheep

etc. etc. etc.


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Street and flat - Skate helmet

Distance, trial, muni - bike helmet


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maestro8;1152151 wrote:
let me save everyone some time he
snip
etc. etc. etc.



tldr


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i am concidering purchasing a good mountain bike helmet (hard foam),
they're light, they're comfortable and stylish (for activities such as
cokering where i'm tempted not to wear a helmet at all), however i feel
the only benefit is that they serve as an exoskeleton that will help
protect me from sharp rocks, etc. that may be in my path. They are not
soft, however i would rather bounce my head off of that material than a
sharp rock or branch, or skid my head on asphalt and rip chunks of hair
out (not fun). definitely a much better option than being w/o a helmet.
With that being said, i really would prefer my head was in a skate
helmet w/ multiple density foam in a serious crash. The shell is much
better, nearly unbreakable, and the foam can actually cushion my head
enough that i can walk away from crashes that would have given me a
concussion w/ a traditional bike helmet w/o a headache. They've saved me
on more than one occasion, and they're more along the lines of what i
would prefer to trust my life to.

i guess i'm gonna get a new skate helmet, lol!


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Polls on this forum annoy me. Nothing ever comes from them. Here you are
asking what helmet type people use in the poll. What they use will not
answer the question you pose which is, "do Unicyclists benefit from a
CPSC approved EPS helmet as opposed to the softer multiple impact rated
skate helmets?"

A better approach would be to start a discussion of the benefits based
on shapes and materials used in various available helmets. Skater
helmets have a shape that protects the brain stem and may be more useful
for riding styles in which falling backwards is very likely, for
example. Whether or not 17 of our members use this shape does not make
it safer or less safe.

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harper;1152271 wrote:
Polls on this forum annoy me. Nothing ever comes from them.



Sorry to annoy you.

I would dispute that "nothing ever comes from them."

I'm happy with the response,
& have learnt more people use non-certified helmets than I expected.


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