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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
Scottieski says:
Seems like the "All Mountain" bike is meant to be a bike with long enough suspension travel to do some light free riding but is light and nimble enough for epic or all day rides. Like what I said - it's a frikkin' mountain bike. Steve |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
"Stephen Baker" wrote in message ... Dan V says: its an "All Mountain" bike. WTF is an "All Mountain" bike. Honestly, I'm just curious here. Is it something different from the "traditional" mountain bike, that could basically do a bit of everything? Or is this some marketing ploy to make sur you own each of DH, FR, XC, AM, and UC (That's Urban Chic, BTW) Enough with the acronyms and re-naming - it's a feckin' mountain bike! Steve "tough day - last kid graduated from high school, 7 hours driving, etc." Trek uses it to mean the bike is a little heavier than a X-country bike, with more travel. Sort of like a bike to be ridden on trails, but you can do some light downhill on it, or light freeride. If you were looking at bike rags, like MB Action or others, they use this terminology as well. Since I am over 200 pounds, I did not want a X-country bike that was designed for a 150 pound rider, and would fall apart on me if I did 3 foot drops....But I did not want a dedicated freeride bike. I can see riding some of the downhill bikes to do what I like, but the compromise I ended up with is working the way I planned ( the Liquid 25). Dan V |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
Dan V says:
Trek uses it to mean the bike is a little heavier than a X-country bike, with more travel. Sort of like a bike to be ridden on trails, but you can do some light downhill on it, or light freeride. If you were looking at bike rags, like MB Action or others, they use this terminology as well. Steve shakes head in wonder at the stupidity of his fellow man |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
"Stephen Baker" wrote in message ... Dan V says: Trek uses it to mean the bike is a little heavier than a X-country bike, with more travel. Sort of like a bike to be ridden on trails, but you can do some light downhill on it, or light freeride. If you were looking at bike rags, like MB Action or others, they use this terminology as well. Steve shakes head in wonder at the stupidity of his fellow man Marketing trends make up most of our choices. It seems in X-country bikes, the marketing trend is to make each new bike as light as possible. I don't want this--I'd rather have a sturdier bike, something that can take some bigger impacts, and I really don't need to lighten up a bike just to make it a few seconds faster on a trail---I'd rather have a bike that can take the abuse better, and so what if I have to work a little harder on climbs and accelerating out of turns. So to me, the X-country "category" was not what I was looking for. All mountain bikes would seem to be more like the ruggedness of the normal mountain bikes 15 years ago. Dan V |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
Dan V says:
Marketing trends make up most of our choices. Tell me about it. I used to ride a mo'bike, winter, summer and all inbetweens. It was used to be called a "UJM" (Universal Japanese Motorcycle), which menas it was not a race-replica crotch rocket, or a Harley wannabee, or a dirt bike, or a full-dress tourer - it was just a motorcycle, in much the same way as a "mountain-bike" used to be usable for most things. Then the specialisation started, and I honestly cannot find a good commuter bike that fits the bill anymore. Now, if I could find a wife that still didn't mind me riding one in the winter, that could be a problem ;-) Steve "may all our problems be that small" |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
"Bob Rogers" wrote in message ...
"Jonesy" wrote in message om... JD's BITCH has spoken. Gay marriage is alive and well. The internet is full of strange folks with odd turn-ons. You, for example. How you get so aroused by the thought of me and JD together is baffling, but mildly amusing. If that mental image isn't good enough, I found a picture of your mom: http://www.valley-girl.net/shepost3/urj5c030.jpg Benjamin Spanklin (Scooterski) says s/he really has an authoritative spank. -- Jonesy |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
"Dan Volker" wrote in message ...
"Jonesy" wrote in message om... And since you bought a free-ride style bike, that somehow translates into full knowledge on all bikes? Wow, again. I swear you must be on drugs. Where did I ever say I was riding free ride bikes? Oh, and the Liquid 25 is not a free ride bike, its an "All Mountain" bike. Ahh, another idiot who's fallen for marketing hype. Hmmm, a 5" travel bike, in the 30-35lb range, sort of inbetween XC and DH. Yup, free-ride *sytle*. Call it whatever you like - it's not directly comparable to the XC bikes you rode, period. While I don't have the same high opinion of my bike knowledge that you do of yours BWAHAHA! "Technical", etc. You are flogging yourself mercilessly trying to establish credibility in this thread alone! Who are you trying to kid, here? [snip] Newsflash....I was being sarcastic. Uhh, bull****. This whole thread has been about you beating your chest over why your purchase was justified by all your "experience." But I do notice that you didn't give me your Trek guy's name and number. Pretty chicken**** move there, Danny-boy. Apparently you have such a high opinion of yourself, you missed the sarcasm--pretty sad. If you think that somehow you can change history by claiming something that's not true, that's fine. *I'm* buying it... Jonesy, have someone help you with the reading part before you answer me next time, and then maybe you will sound better. LOL - irony. And a classic capitulation. No real info, and when verbally spanked into submission, just crawls away. LOL. A classic tool. Must feel great to have Booby Rogers come to your defense. Heh. -- Jonesy |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
"Jonesy" wrote in message om... "Dan Volker" wrote in message ... "Jonesy" wrote in message om... And since you bought a free-ride style bike, that somehow translates into full knowledge on all bikes? Wow, again. I swear you must be on drugs. Where did I ever say I was riding free ride bikes? Oh, and the Liquid 25 is not a free ride bike, its an "All Mountain" bike. Ahh, another idiot who's fallen for marketing hype. Hmmm, a 5" travel bike, in the 30-35lb range, sort of inbetween XC and DH. Versus the idiot who has fallen for the "lighter is better" hype, along with the "lure" of less mental involvement required when using a SS bike---imagine the horor of having to think about shifting!!!! But after reading many of your posts, I think you are probably better off reducing the requirement to think about shifting while riding.... When I started riding in Western NY, back in the 80's, my rigid bikes weighed closer to 37 pounds, and at the time, we thought this was pretty light. And these bikes were tough! Why would I want a 22 pound mountain bike? Yup, free-ride *sytle*. Call it whatever you like - it's not directly comparable to the XC bikes you rode, period. While I don't have the same high opinion of my bike knowledge that you do of yours BWAHAHA! "Technical", etc. You are flogging yourself mercilessly trying to establish credibility in this thread alone! Who are you trying to kid, here? [snip] Newsflash....I was being sarcastic. Uhh, bull****. This whole thread has been about you beating your chest over why your purchase was justified by all your "experience." But I do notice that you didn't give me your Trek guy's name and number. Pretty chicken**** move there, Danny-boy. How you have such a high opinion of yourself is amazing--almost as amazing as you missing the sarcasm. And it a Trek "girl's" name --the rep is a girl. I will have to talk with her again before I hand over her number or name on the Internet to a "piece of work" like yourself. Dan V |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
"Dan Volker" wrote in message ...
"Jonesy" wrote in message om... "Dan Volker" wrote in message ... Oh, and the Liquid 25 is not a free ride bike, its an "All Mountain" bike. Ahh, another idiot who's fallen for marketing hype. Hmmm, a 5" travel bike, in the 30-35lb range, sort of inbetween XC and DH. Versus the idiot who has fallen for the "lighter is better" hype You must have me confused with someone else. I've never written that. If you had any clue at all, you'd already know I prefer durable over light. along with the "lure" of less mental involvement required when using a SS bike Oh, now I'll bet you really are gonna feel stupid. I don't have a SS, and I don't think they're all that great. I *like* gears. Flail some more, Danny. I love it when you get all ironic like that. When I started riding in Western NY, back in the 80's, my rigid bikes weighed closer to 37 pounds Jeez, even my beater Diamondback only weighed about 32. Oh, yeah - bought in the '80s. Fully rigid, etc... BWAHAHA! "Technical", etc. You are flogging yourself mercilessly trying to establish credibility in this thread alone! Who are you trying to kid, here? [snip] Newsflash....I was being sarcastic. Uhh, bull****. This whole thread has been about you beating your chest over why your purchase was justified by all your "experience." But I do notice that you didn't give me your Trek guy's name and number. Pretty chicken**** move there, Danny-boy. almost as amazing as you missing the sarcasm. Oh, I *got* the sarcasm of when you appeared to write some praise of my knowledge. But that's not what I'm talking about. Grab a clue, quick! And it a Trek "girl's" name --the rep is a girl. Woman, Danny. If they are under the age of puberty, they're girls. My mistake for ASSuming. I will have to talk with her again before I hand over her number or name on the Internet to a "piece of work" like yourself. Just e-mail me her Trek e-mail addy. That ought to be good enough. But you ain't got the guts to hear that I was right, AND wouldn't be man enough to admit you were wrong, so I won't expect too much. *You* calling *me* a piece of work is frickin' hilarious, tho'. Keep 'em coming, I need some more laughs. -- Jonesy "rfjonesy *at* hotmail *dot* com" |
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Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.)
"Jonesy" wrote in message om... "Dan Volker" wrote in message ... "Jonesy" wrote in message om... "Dan Volker" wrote in message ... Oh, and the Liquid 25 is not a free ride bike, its an "All Mountain" bike. Ahh, another idiot who's fallen for marketing hype. Hmmm, a 5" travel bike, in the 30-35lb range, sort of inbetween XC and DH. Versus the idiot who has fallen for the "lighter is better" hype You must have me confused with someone else. I've never written that. If you had any clue at all, you'd already know I prefer durable over light. This had just gravitated to "marketing hype". Had you been included in an "idiot category" that I was talking about as a market niche, that would certainly have been a big bonus. Sorry man, its not always about you. Try to live with it. along with the "lure" of less mental involvement required when using a SS bike Oh, now I'll bet you really are gonna feel stupid. I don't have a SS, and I don't think they're all that great. I *like* gears. Maybe I did make a mistake here...But considering the difficulty you have in staying focused on what equipment you are riding on, or of having much awareness of what's going on around you, it would just seem to me that the simplicity of a SS bike would be perfect for you. quick! And it a Trek "girl's" name --the rep is a girl. Woman, Danny. If they are under the age of puberty, they're girls. Newsflash Jonesey--if you are talking about "guys", then "girls" is an equivalent alternative. Come on, say it...guys and girls.... My mistake for ASSuming. Just your mistake for being an ass.... I will have to talk with her again before I hand over her number or name on the Internet to a "piece of work" like yourself. Just e-mail me her Trek e-mail addy. That ought to be good enough. But you ain't got the guts to hear that I was right, AND wouldn't be man enough to admit you were wrong, so I won't expect too much. Next time I go to the LBS, I'll get her card and call her. If she says its OK, I'll give you her e-mail address. But considering she's pretty cool, and your pretty much a butt head, I'm not sure that "sicking you on her" is the right thing for me to do..... Dan V |
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