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Eco terrorist Mike's friend caught.
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
news On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:39:02 -0500, "S Curtiss" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:59:52 -0800, "Bill Sornson" wrote: J wrote: http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...20207074.shtml Good Job to the citizen, not police that caught this guy. The guy needs to have the book thrown at him. Attempted murder included. Why? Mountain bikers murder horses and wildlife every day, and think nothing of it. "Murder"...? Murder is premeditated. One story you posted some time back was an accident involving equestrians and cyclists meeting on a trail and was reported with skewed language referring to the bicycles as a "strange metal beast". The other openly refers to the MAJORITY of cyclists as responsible taking into account the unjustified categorizing of ALL cyclists. Both incidents were reported originally as unfortunate and accidents. Yet you interject "murder"...? By riding without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, mountain bikers deliberately kill them. That's murder. By driving without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, drivers deliberately kill them. That's murder. By working without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, workers deliberately kill them. That's murder. Interesting how your twisted mind sees "murder" where everyone else (including the legal system) sees "accident". GG And this to justify a terrorist whose actions could have killed and did cause serious injury to human beings...? PATHETIC!!!!!! === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Eco terrorist Mike's friend caught.
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:29:42 GMT, Kirk Robertson
wrote: Mike Vandeman wrote in : I know of several that were killed by mountain bikers speeding around blind turns and forcing them off a cliff. If a 1000 lb horse can be forced off a cliff by a 200 lb biker then that horse should not have been on a steep public trail. My wife has horses and she would never take one out on a trail that was even marginally dangerous unless she trusted that horse with her life. Kirk. Idiot. The horses were frightened by the sudden appearance of the biker. But you know that already, and just choose to LIE about it. Absolutely typical of a mountain biker. === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On 5 Feb 2007 23:21:35 -0800, "Beej" wrote:
On Feb 5, 5:41 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: Besides, if you can't see the difference between killing a snake and a human, you certainly belong in a padded room. In the case of mountain bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is beneficial, and the mountain biker is just destructive? One of them is covered by California Penal Code section 187, and the other is not. One of them is covered by the ESA, and the other one is covered by vermin statutes. That'll be $12, please. -Beej === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 06:16:24 -0800, "GaryG"
wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message news On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:39:02 -0500, "S Curtiss" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:59:52 -0800, "Bill Sornson" wrote: J wrote: http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...20207074.shtml Good Job to the citizen, not police that caught this guy. The guy needs to have the book thrown at him. Attempted murder included. Why? Mountain bikers murder horses and wildlife every day, and think nothing of it. "Murder"...? Murder is premeditated. One story you posted some time back was an accident involving equestrians and cyclists meeting on a trail and was reported with skewed language referring to the bicycles as a "strange metal beast". The other openly refers to the MAJORITY of cyclists as responsible taking into account the unjustified categorizing of ALL cyclists. Both incidents were reported originally as unfortunate and accidents. Yet you interject "murder"...? By riding without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, mountain bikers deliberately kill them. That's murder. By driving without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, drivers deliberately kill them. That's murder. By working without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, workers deliberately kill them. That's murder. Interesting how your twisted mind sees "murder" where everyone else (including the legal system) sees "accident". Reckless riding is not an accident. DUH! GG And this to justify a terrorist whose actions could have killed and did cause serious injury to human beings...? PATHETIC!!!!!! === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
... On 5 Feb 2007 23:21:35 -0800, "Beej" wrote: On Feb 5, 5:41 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: Besides, if you can't see the difference between killing a snake and a human, you certainly belong in a padded room. In the case of mountain bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is beneficial, and the mountain biker is just destructive? One of them is covered by California Penal Code section 187, and the other is not. One of them is covered by the ESA, and the other one is covered by vermin statutes. Unless the snake is Federally listed as either an Endangered or Threatened Species then it is not covered under the Endangered Species Act. |
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message news On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:39:02 -0500, "S Curtiss" wrote: J wrote: http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...20207074.shtml Good Job to the citizen, not police that caught this guy. The guy needs to have the book thrown at him. Attempted murder included. Why? Mountain bikers murder horses and wildlife every day, and think nothing of it. "Murder"...? Murder is premeditated. One story you posted some time back was an accident involving equestrians and cyclists meeting on a trail and was reported with skewed language referring to the bicycles as a "strange metal beast". The other openly refers to the MAJORITY of cyclists as responsible taking into account the unjustified categorizing of ALL cyclists. Both incidents were reported originally as unfortunate and accidents. Yet you interject "murder"...? By riding without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, mountain bikers deliberately kill them. That's murder. Your subjective and inclusive statement "mountain bikers deliberately kill them" is simply an extension of your OPINION of off-road cycling and hardly carries any meaning concerning the riding habits and conservation goals of the off-road cycling community. There is absolutely NO evidence gathered by any research that shows cyclists are riding to deliberately kill anything. Produce EVIDENCE from a scientific source showing all mountain bikers are on the trail to deliberately kill anything, or by not doing so, acknowledge you are simply lying and spouting an unfounded opinion generated by your own hatred of the activity. And this to justify a terrorist whose actions could have killed and did cause serious injury to human beings...? PATHETIC!!!!!! |
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Eco terrorist Mike's friend caught.
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message news On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 23:27:01 -0500, "S Curtiss" wrote: http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...20207074.shtml Good Job to the citizen, not police that caught this guy. The guy needs to have the book thrown at him. Attempted murder included. Why? Mountain bikers murder horses and wildlife every day, and think nothing of it. Mountain bikers murder horses every day? Do you smoke crack? I know of several that were killed by mountain bikers speeding around blind turns and forcing them off a cliff. "several..."? Liar. You have two stories on your site. They were both originally reported as accidents on shared trails. "Murder" is premeditated. Not necessarily, which you well know, liar. The term "murder" implies direct and purposefull intent to kill. The matter of degree is decided through evidence. The stories you posted on horses report no evidence of intent. An accident is unfortunate. PATHETIC is your silly assumptions of "murder" when the news stories list them as accidents. Besides, if you can't see the difference between killing a snake and a human, you certainly belong in a padded room. In the case of mountain bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is beneficial, and the mountain biker is just destructive? You can't even provide actual and verifiable evidence of a snake killed by a mountain biker. Anything else you say is already suspect. (Has been for 10 years...) Answer the question. There is no question - merely an assumption on your part that off-road cycling is destructive. The existence of a snake, or any beneficial qualities attributed to a snake, has little to do with any qualities you choose to imply onto off-road cyclists. Besides... All you are doing is further aligning yourself with this terrorist. No surprise there. either. You have praised trail terrorism and booby-traps several times in the past. The only thing seperating you from them is your cowardice to openly advocate it. |
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:39:37 -0800, cc wrote: Mike Vandeman wrote: On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:40:11 -0800, cc wrote: Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:59:52 -0800, "Bill Sornson" wrote: J wrote: http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories...20207074.shtml Good Job to the citizen, not police that caught this guy. The guy needs to have the book thrown at him. Attempted murder included. Why? Mountain bikers murder horses and wildlife every day, and think nothing of it. Mountain bikers murder horses every day? Do you smoke crack? I know of several that were killed by mountain bikers speeding around blind turns and forcing them off a cliff. well, besides the obvious skew here, these events are extremely few and far between. but you knew that. Not due to any concern of mountain bikers. They ride recklessly regardless of who is on the trail. Mike, this is pretty typical. Cognitive bias, proof by example, and proof by assertion. No wonder you never published. Looks like the only thing you learned is how to string together logical fallacies. Besides, if you can't see the difference between killing a snake and a human, you certainly belong in a padded room. In the case of mountain bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is beneficial, and the mountain biker is just destructive? you proved my point, you sick ****. You didn't answer the question. One is HUMAN, you idiot. Not to mention the INTENT of the murderer stringing booby-traps for them. |
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On Feb 6, 8:49 am, "Pete Rissler"
wrote: Unless the snake is Federally listed as either an Endangered or Threatened Species then it is not covered under the Endangered Species Act. Yes, but if "more than 0" species are covered, it means that it's "common" for species to be covered. -Beej |
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In article ,
Mike Vandeman wrote: By riding without regard to the safety of wildlife and other people, mountain bikers deliberately kill them. That's murder. No MIkey, that is NOT Murder, it is Manslaughter, and that is a Totally Different Offense..... Just where did you get you DR of JurASSprudence.... LawSchools R' Us..... === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande Me a long time Mikey basher.......... |
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