_The Japan We Never Knew_, by David Suzuki and Keibo Oiwa

This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
for all of humanity.

"Many of the large, industrialized cities of Japan are ecological
nightmares, biological deserts entombed in concrete and asphalt, with
rivers choking on industrial sludge and garbage, air thick with
exhaust fumes and factory emissions. The pollution became more intense
the closer we got to Tokyo. The problems here can be seen as [as] much
a failure of education as of politics and business. ... Around the
world, social structures are collapsing under the weight of explosive
population growth and massive shifts in where this population lives.
There are enormous pressures of widespread poverty, ecological
collapse, civil strife, and the increase in new and old diseases --
AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis. Highly industrialized countries like
Japan, which depend on global resources and markets, are beginning to
confront the reality of their dependence on renewable and nonrenewable
products, of the planet's finite limits, and of the ecological and
social unsustainability of our high consumption lifestyle. It is from
the turmoil within the Japan that we now see that new paradigms,
priorities, lifestyles, and goals are emerging. They provide an
important source of new ways of perceiving, thinking, and acting for
all of us in the global village who strive to find ways to achieve
social, economic, and environmental balance." pp.303-4
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
for all of humanity.


Mike, this has **** all to do with mountain biking, you tool. Why don't
you go to Japan and study how they eat?

Mike Vandeman wrote:

Something just as on topic as always. At least this time he's stealing
from folks who know way way more then he ever will. I'm sure Mr. Suzuki
will be quite surprised to see his data misused this way.

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:01 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
for all of humanity.


Mike, this has **** all to do with mountain biking, you tool. Why don't
you go to Japan and study how they eat?

Ask your mommy what "sustainable" means, and what it has to do with
mountain biking, an unsustainable extreme sport.
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:00:53 -0400, jason
wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:

Something just as on topic as always.

Ask your mommy what "sustainable" means, and what it has to do with
mountain biking, an unsustainable extreme sport.

At least this time he's stealing
from folks who know way way more then he ever will. I'm sure Mr. Suzuki
will be quite surprised to see his data misused this way.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:01 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
for all of humanity.

Mike, this has **** all to do with mountain biking, you tool. Why don't
you go to Japan and study how they eat?

Ask your mommy what "sustainable" means, and what it has to do with
mountain biking, an unsustainable extreme sport.

Yeah, now that you mention it, it's even simpler than that! PEOPLE
mountain bike, and they're talking about PEOPLE in the article. What was
I thinking?

In reality, the only connection is one that YOU have made with your
OPINIONS as usual. Dimwit.

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:41:24 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:01 -0800, cc wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
for all of humanity.

Mike, this has **** all to do with mountain biking, you tool. Why don't
you go to Japan and study how they eat?

Ask your mommy what "sustainable" means, and what it has to do with
mountain biking, an unsustainable extreme sport.

Yeah, now that you mention it, it's even simpler than that! PEOPLE
mountain bike, and they're talking about PEOPLE in the article.

And the ENVIRONMENTAL impact of people. DUH!

What was
I thinking?

In reality, the only connection is one that YOU have made with your
OPINIONS as usual. Dimwit.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
for all of humanity.

"Many of the large, industrialized cities of Japan are ecological
nightmares, biological deserts entombed in concrete and asphalt, with
rivers choking on industrial sludge and garbage, air thick with
exhaust fumes and factory emissions. The pollution became more intense
the closer we got to Tokyo. The problems here can be seen as [as] much
a failure of education as of politics and business. ... Around the
world, social structures are collapsing under the weight of explosive
population growth and massive shifts in where this population lives.
There are enormous pressures of widespread poverty, ecological
collapse, civil strife, and the increase in new and old diseases --
AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis. Highly industrialized countries like
Japan, which depend on global resources and markets, are beginning to
confront the reality of their dependence on renewable and nonrenewable
products, of the planet's finite limits, and of the ecological and
social unsustainability of our high consumption lifestyle. It is from
the turmoil within the Japan that we now see that new paradigms,
priorities, lifestyles, and goals are emerging. They provide an
important source of new ways of perceiving, thinking, and acting for
all of us in the global village who strive to find ways to achieve
social, economic, and environmental balance." pp.303-4
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
fond of!


What happens if I put my cell phone next to a part of yoru body that I'm not
fond of?



That's a rhetorical question. You haven't got any parts that I can stand to
be close to long enough to help.

"Jeff Strickland" writes:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!


What happens if I put my cell phone next to a part of yoru body that
I'm not fond of?

Nothing in either case.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061206085942.htm

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On 11 Feb 2007 17:44:06 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

"Jeff Strickland" writes:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!


What happens if I put my cell phone next to a part of yoru body that
I'm not fond of?

Nothing in either case.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061206085942.htm

That article is only about CANCER, idiot. It says NOTHING about all
the other impacts of cell phone use. Why don't mountain bikers EVER do
their own homework?
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande