_The Japan We Never Knew_, by David Suzuki and Keibo Oiwa

Mike Vandeman writes:

On 11 Feb 2007 17:44:06 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

"Jeff Strickland" writes:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!


What happens if I put my cell phone next to a part of yoru body that
I'm not fond of?

Nothing in either case.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061206085942.htm

That article is only about CANCER, idiot. It says NOTHING about all
the other impacts of cell phone use. Why don't mountain bikers EVER do
their own homework?

Did I claim to be a mountain biker (I don't even subscribe to a
mountain-bike newsgroup)? Did you infer that from all the
groups you cross posted this to?

Before calling people "idiots" you might read your own friggin posts
where you whined and whined about cancer. The latest results are a
fairly strong indication that you were 100% wrong. I'm sure you'll
make a fool of yourself once again dreaming up some other bogus claim.

My guess is that the main risks for using a cell phone are either
being distracted while driving or being punched in the nose if you
take a call and yack in a loud voice in a theater (or otherwise use
the gadgets in some inappropriate way). You might add the very
rare cases of a defective battery that overheats (although it seems
that this is more typically the result of buying cheap batteries
that are not up to the standards the cell-phone manufacturers have).
I guess you could also drop one off of a cliff or tall building and
bean someone.


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Let me know when you make a pure human habitat that's off limit
to animals.

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: humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
: years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
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: Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body
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We definitely need more drilling for oil. I'm all in favor of
less US dependence on foreign oil.

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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Highly industrialized countries like
: Japan, which depend on global resources and markets, are
beginning to
: confront the reality of their dependence on renewable and
nonrenewable
: products, of the planet's finite limits,

On 11 Feb 2007 23:11:39 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

Mike Vandeman writes:

On 11 Feb 2007 17:44:06 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

"Jeff Strickland" writes:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!


What happens if I put my cell phone next to a part of yoru body that
I'm not fond of?

Nothing in either case.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061206085942.htm

That article is only about CANCER, idiot. It says NOTHING about all
the other impacts of cell phone use. Why don't mountain bikers EVER do
their own homework?

Did I claim to be a mountain biker

Did I say you are? But then why do you act like one?

(I don't even subscribe to a
mountain-bike newsgroup)? Did you infer that from all the
groups you cross posted this to?

Before calling people "idiots"

You implied that no cancer means no harm. How can that be
characterized as other than idiotic?

you might read your own friggin posts
where you whined and whined about cancer.

You are LYING -- another clue that you must be a closet mountain
biker. A 2-second Google search will show you that I only quoted
others.

The latest results are a
fairly strong indication that you were 100% wrong. I'm sure you'll
make a fool of yourself once again dreaming up some other bogus claim.

My guess is that the main risks for using a cell phone are either
being distracted while driving or being punched in the nose if you
take a call and yack in a loud voice in a theater (or otherwise use
the gadgets in some inappropriate way). You might add the very
rare cases of a defective battery that overheats (although it seems
that this is more typically the result of buying cheap batteries
that are not up to the standards the cell-phone manufacturers have).
I guess you could also drop one off of a cliff or tall building and
bean someone.

Do you also belong to the Flat Earth Society?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman writes:

On 11 Feb 2007 23:11:39 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

Mike Vandeman writes:

On 11 Feb 2007 17:44:06 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

"Jeff Strickland" writes:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!


What happens if I put my cell phone next to a part of yoru body that
I'm not fond of?

Nothing in either case.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061206085942.htm

That article is only about CANCER, idiot. It says NOTHING about all
the other impacts of cell phone use. Why don't mountain bikers EVER do
their own homework?

Did I claim to be a mountain biker

Did I say you are? But then why do you act like one?

What am I supposed to assume you meant by "Why don't mountain bikers
EVER do their own homework" in a reply to my post?

(I don't even subscribe to a
mountain-bike newsgroup)? Did you infer that from all the
groups you cross posted this to?

Before calling people "idiots"

You implied that no cancer means no harm. How can that be
characterized as other than idiotic?

Cancer was the only "harm" you whined about the last time we
had a discussion about it, where you made a fool of yourself
by showing a complete lack of understanding of classical
electrodynamics.


you might read your own friggin posts where you whined and whined
about cancer.

You are LYING -- another clue that you must be a closet mountain
biker. A 2-second Google search will show you that I only quoted
others.

LOL! You quoted them as evidence to back your claims about cell
phones being 'bad'. Now you are trying to weasel out of it.

My guess is that the main risks for using a cell phone are either
being distracted while driving or being punched in the nose if you
take a call and yack in a loud voice in a theater (or otherwise use
the gadgets in some inappropriate way). You might add the very
rare cases of a defective battery that overheats (although it seems
that this is more typically the result of buying cheap batteries
that are not up to the standards the cell-phone manufacturers have).
I guess you could also drop one off of a cliff or tall building and
bean someone.

Do you also belong to the Flat Earth Society?

Do you think Dorothy's taking you to see the wizard to get a brain?

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:02:00 GMT, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

Mike Vandeman writes:

On 11 Feb 2007 23:11:39 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

Mike Vandeman writes:

On 11 Feb 2007 17:44:06 -0800, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

"Jeff Strickland" writes:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!


What happens if I put my cell phone next to a part of yoru body that
I'm not fond of?

Nothing in either case.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061206085942.htm

That article is only about CANCER, idiot. It says NOTHING about all
the other impacts of cell phone use. Why don't mountain bikers EVER do
their own homework?

Did I claim to be a mountain biker

Did I say you are? But then why do you act like one?

What am I supposed to assume you meant by "Why don't mountain bikers
EVER do their own homework" in a reply to my post?

That you must be a mountain biker, because you act just like them.

(I don't even subscribe to a
mountain-bike newsgroup)? Did you infer that from all the
groups you cross posted this to?

Before calling people "idiots"

You implied that no cancer means no harm. How can that be
characterized as other than idiotic?

Cancer was the only "harm" you whined about the last time we
had a discussion about it, where you made a fool of yourself
by showing a complete lack of understanding of classical
electrodynamics.

Nonsense. I couldn't have said "cancer". because there's no evidence
for that. There IS evidence of "benign tumors on the auditory nerve".
You probably are thinking of something I quoted about cancer.

How do you explain the benign tumors, Mr. "classical electrodynamics"?

you might read your own friggin posts where you whined and whined
about cancer.

You are LYING -- another clue that you must be a closet mountain
biker. A 2-second Google search will show you that I only quoted
others.

LOL! You quoted them as evidence to back your claims about cell
phones being 'bad'. Now you are trying to weasel out of it.

BS. They ARE bad. But I never said it had anything to do with cancer.

My guess is that the main risks for using a cell phone are either
being distracted while driving or being punched in the nose if you
take a call and yack in a loud voice in a theater (or otherwise use
the gadgets in some inappropriate way). You might add the very
rare cases of a defective battery that overheats (although it seems
that this is more typically the result of buying cheap batteries
that are not up to the standards the cell-phone manufacturers have).
I guess you could also drop one off of a cliff or tall building and
bean someone.

Do you also belong to the Flat Earth Society?

Do you think Dorothy's taking you to see the wizard to get a brain?

Cute, but irrelevant.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman writes:

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:02:00 GMT, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

Mike Vandeman writes:

What am I supposed to assume you meant by "Why don't mountain bikers
EVER do their own homework" in a reply to my post?

That you must be a mountain biker, because you act just like them.

Posting a URL for an article about scientific research is acting
like a mountain biker?


(I don't even subscribe to a
mountain-bike newsgroup)? Did you infer that from all the
groups you cross posted this to?

Before calling people "idiots"


You implied that no cancer means no harm. How can that be
characterized as other than idiotic?

Nonsense. I couldn't have said "cancer". because there's no evidence
for that. There IS evidence of "benign tumors on the auditory nerve".
You probably are thinking of something I quoted about cancer.

How do you explain the benign tumors, Mr. "classical electrodynamics"?

I don't have to explain them since there is no real evidence that they
had anything to do with electromagnetic radiation at the frequency
cell phones use, for reasons pointed out to you last year.

you might read your own friggin posts where you whined and whined
about cancer.

You are LYING -- another clue that you must be a closet mountain
biker. A 2-second Google search will show you that I only quoted
others.

LOL! You quoted them as evidence to back your claims about cell
phones being 'bad'. Now you are trying to weasel out of it.

BS. They ARE bad. But I never said it had anything to do with cancer.

Vanderman, you are a complete and utter idiot.

My guess is that the main risks for using a cell phone are either
being distracted while driving or being punched in the nose if you
take a call and yack in a loud voice in a theater (or otherwise use
the gadgets in some inappropriate way). You might add the very
rare cases of a defective battery that overheats (although it seems
that this is more typically the result of buying cheap batteries
that are not up to the standards the cell-phone manufacturers have).
I guess you could also drop one off of a cliff or tall building and
bean someone.

Do you also belong to the Flat Earth Society?

Do you think Dorothy's taking you to see the wizard to get a brain?

Cute, but irrelevant.

In your case, I think you need more than a trip to see the wizard, but
a long session with a shrink.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

On Feb 8, 7:05 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
for all of humanity.

"Many of the large, industrialized cities of Japan are ecological
nightmares, biological deserts entombed in concrete and asphalt, with
rivers choking on industrial sludge and garbage, air thick with
exhaust fumes and factory emissions. The pollution became more intense
the closer we got to Tokyo. The problems here can be seen as [as] much
a failure of education as of politics and business. ... Around the
world, social structures are collapsing under the weight of explosive
population growth and massive shifts in where this population lives.
There are enormous pressures of widespread poverty, ecological
collapse, civil strife, and the increase in new and old diseases --
AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis. Highly industrialized countries like
Japan, which depend on global resources and markets, are beginning to
confront the reality of their dependence on renewable and nonrenewable
products, of the planet's finite limits, and of the ecological and
social unsustainability of our high consumption lifestyle. It is from
the turmoil within the Japan that we now see that new paradigms,
priorities, lifestyles, and goals are emerging. They provide an
important source of new ways of perceiving, thinking, and acting for
all of us in the global village who strive to find ways to achieve
social, economic, and environmental balance." pp.303-4
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Yeah that' serious. If it was not for the debt-finance/money system,
as created by Jews which is Japans system, there would not be this
rape of their geography in the name of greed. Hitler fixed this
problem, and that's why the Jews had to get him.

At this point in the thread, Mr Vanderman usually states something witty
like:

"Did you say something?"

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:07:38 GMT, (Bill Z.)
wrote:

Mike Vandeman writes:

There IS evidence of "benign tumors on the auditory nerve".
You probably are thinking of something I quoted about cancer.

How do you explain the benign tumors, Mr. "classical electrodynamics"?

I don't have to explain them since there is no real evidence that they
had anything to do with electromagnetic radiation at the frequency
cell phones use, for reasons pointed out to you last year.

There is scientific evidence that the cause was cell phones, because
of the location of the tumors (next to where the cell phone is held).
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande