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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
Hi,
my bike is 9 speed shimano. I'm thinking about buying Campagnolo Zonda wheels (any thoughts about that, by the way?) and I'm aware that those wheels are shimano compatible, but I'm not sure if they are 10 speed only, or also support 9 speed cassettes. In the future I could buy a SRAM groupset which I think also needs shimano 9 speed compatibility. -- Regards, Francisco Sanchez |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
Francisco Sanchez wrote:
my bike is 9 speed shimano. I'm thinking about buying Campagnolo Zonda wheels (any thoughts about that, by the way?) Nice wheels - don't seem to see the kind of maintenance issues that you will have with a lot of "boutique wheels". I'd consider them capable of "everyday riding" for most people in most places. and I'm aware that those wheels are shimano compatible, but I'm not sure if they are 10 speed only, or also support 9 speed cassettes. In the future I could buy a SRAM groupset which I think also needs shimano 9 speed compatibility. If they're Shimano-compatible, they'll take a 9 or 10 speed cassette (Shimano or SRAM). If they're equipped with a Campy hub, you'll have to check - deep splines on the freehub = 9 or 10 speed, shallow (non-stepped) splines = 8 speed. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $795 ti frame |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
Hi Mark,
thanks for the info. I was unsure because I know some shimano wheels are 10 speed only due to new deeper splines and the compatibility chart is not clear for me: http://cycle.shimano- eu.com/publish/content/cycle/seh/nl/en/technical_service/faq_s/compatibi lty_charts.-MainContent-0007-DownloadFile.tmp/9_10sp%20cs_fh_wh% 20compatibility.pdf.pdf In article , says... If they're Shimano-compatible, they'll take a 9 or 10 speed cassette (Shimano or SRAM). If they're equipped with a Campy hub, you'll have to check - deep splines on the freehub = 9 or 10 speed, shallow (non-stepped) splines = 8 speed. -- Regards, Francisco Sanchez |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
On Feb 8, 12:29 pm, Francisco Sanchez
wrote: Hi, my bike is 9 speed shimano. I'm thinking about buying Campagnolo Zonda wheels (any thoughts about that, by the way?) and I'm aware that those wheels are shimano compatible, but I'm not sure if they are 10 speed only, or also support 9 speed cassettes. In the future I could buy a SRAM groupset which I think also needs shimano 9 speed compatibility. -- Regards, Francisco Sanchez Depends on the year but if 'modern', made for Campag 9/10s(silver aluminum body), then you can get a shimano compatible freehub body for it and use a shiamano 8/9/10s cogset. As for 'wheels outta boxes', if a screaming good deal, and not thrashed and you are a fairly light rider, they 'may' be OK. best part of these and other Campag wheels is the hub tho. |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
Would you recommend any boutique wheelset in the same price range?
In article .com, says... As for 'wheels outta boxes', if a screaming good deal, and not thrashed and you are a fairly light rider, they 'may' be OK. best part of these and other Campag wheels is the hub tho. Regards, Francisco Sanchez |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
On Feb 9, 7:54 am, Francisco Sanchez
wrote: Would you recommend any boutique wheelset in the same price range? Instead of restricting yourself to "boutique" wheelsets, why not look into getting a hand-made wheelset using Campagnolo or Shimano hubs? For example, if you are going to use Shimano 10, you can find Shimano Dura Ace 7800 10 speed 36h rear hubs for $65. Add in another $25-30 for 36 double-butted spokes, and another $50 or so for a rim. Even with labor at $40-60 per wheel, you'll have a nice light, strong, and reliable wheel for ALOT less than the boutique. Plus, if you ever break a spoke, you can get one at any bike store. Try pricing a Mavic Kyserium (sp?) or Campy boutique spoke. And, don't even think about the cost of replacing a Mavic or Campy boutique rim.... |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
I want 1600-1700 grammes at most because there a lot of Category 1 and
highest level passes where I live (and I love climbing anyway). I don't think I can get that weight at that price range for a hand-made wheelset. Also, there's the problem of finding good hands for constructing the wheels. Every LBS will tell you they are good at that job, but... In article .com, says... Instead of restricting yourself to "boutique" wheelsets, why not look into getting a hand-made wheelset using Campagnolo or Shimano hubs? Regards, Francisco Sanchez |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
On Feb 9, 11:55 am, Francisco Sanchez
wrote: I want 1600-1700 grammes at most because there a lot of Category 1 and highest level passes where I live (and I love climbing anyway). I don't think I can get that weight at that price range for a hand-made wheelset. Also, there's the problem of finding good hands for constructing the wheels. Every LBS will tell you they are good at that job, but... There in lies the misconception. First, a 1600-1700g wheelset is NOT light. Sorry. Further, you can easily built up a hand-built wheelset that will be in the 1600-1700g range you're seeking. Don't believe me? Do the math. For example, A Campy Record or Shimano DA hubset will weigh in at somewhere around 500g (for both front and rear hubs AND SKEWERS). 64 DT 1.8/1.6mm spokes have a list weight of 311g. 64 DT aluminum alloy nipples are listed as 20g. If you use say a Velocity Aerohead rim add another 400g per rim or 800g total. So, for BOTH front and rear wheels WITH SKEWERS, a good hand-built should weigh somewhere around 1631g or so for a clincher wheelset. Want lighter? Get tubular rims as you can find some under 400g each. As for whether you have a *good* wheelbuilder near you, that's harder. I recommend checking around. If you have any, contact some bike clubs or racing teams in your area and see who they recommend. Alternatively, there are several good books and websites on how to build your own wheels. Good Luck! |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
"Francisco Sanchez" wrote in message
. .. I want 1600-1700 grammes at most because there a lot of Category 1 and highest level passes where I live (and I love climbing anyway). I don't think I can get that weight at that price range for a hand-made wheelset. Also, there's the problem of finding good hands for constructing the wheels. Every LBS will tell you they are good at that job, but... Unless you start paying really big money, pre-built wheels are no lighter than what you can built yourself. I have a set of 32h wheels that I built using Campagnolo Record hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims, and Sapim CX-Ray spokes. I recently installed a new compact crank on a friend's bike that uses Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels with the Campagnolo compatible cassette body. I took the opportunity to put both sets of wheels on my kitchen scales, as they both had identical Chorus 13-29 cassettes installed. The Mavic wheels were about 10g lighter than the home built wheels, and if I hadn't used brass nipples on my rear wheel rather than the aluminium nipples that Sapim supply with the spokes, the wheels I built would have come in lighter. And they were less than 1/2 the price of the Mavic, and maintenance costs (eg replacement rims when the sidewall wear out) will be far less, assuming that you can still get replacement Ksyrium spokes and rims at some time in the future. I know a couple of people who've basically thrown away their Mavic Helium wheels because of the difficulty of getting spare parts for them. Nick |
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Campagnolo Zonda for Shimano 9 speed
On 2007-02-10, Nick Payne wrote:
"Francisco Sanchez" wrote in message . .. I want 1600-1700 grammes at most because there a lot of Category 1 and highest level passes where I live (and I love climbing anyway). I don't think I can get that weight at that price range for a hand-made wheelset. Also, there's the problem of finding good hands for constructing the wheels. Every LBS will tell you they are good at that job, but... Unless you start paying really big money, pre-built wheels are no lighter than what you can built yourself. I have a set of 32h wheels that I built using Campagnolo Record hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims, and Sapim CX-Ray spokes. I recently installed a new compact crank on a friend's bike that uses Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels with the Campagnolo compatible cassette body. I took the opportunity to put both sets of wheels on my kitchen scales, as they both had identical Chorus 13-29 cassettes installed. The Mavic wheels were about 10g lighter than the home built wheels, and if I hadn't used brass nipples on my rear wheel rather than the aluminium nipples that Sapim supply with the spokes, the wheels I built would have come in lighter. And they were less than 1/2 the price of the Mavic, and maintenance costs (eg replacement rims when the sidewall wear out) will be far less, assuming that you can still get replacement Ksyrium spokes and rims at some time in the future. I know a couple of people who've basically thrown away their Mavic Helium wheels because of the difficulty of getting spare parts for them. You've probably got much better quality hubs as well since I've read here that the hubs on the Mavic Ksyriums fill up with "pawl dust". Here it is: http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec...2ab9336?hl=en& According to bfd's math, your wheels should weigh about 1600g, but using numbers mostly from weight weenies: Record rear hub: 221g Record front hub: 111g Velocity Aerohead: 400g * 2 Spokes: 140g * 2 Nipples: 20g Total: 1432g These figures don't include skewers, which explains the difference from bfd's math. But Ksyrium wheels without skewers are about 1500g according to weight weenies, and cost almost twice what the Zonda or handbuilt wheels do! I suppose as you say Ksyrium wheels aren't "really big money" but at about GBP 400 for both wheels I'd expect better. |
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