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Old October 18th 18, 12:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Driving rules could be about to change to give cyclists andpedestrians priority over cars,

Motorists may be required to always give way to pedestrians and cyclists
when turning, under a shake-up of the Highway Code. The Department for
Transport is considering the measure to boost protection of vulnerable
road users going straight on at junctions. Road safety campaigners claim
the Highway Code is unclear about what drivers should do when turning.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/18/drivi...5/?ito=cbshare
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Old October 18th 18, 06:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Driving rules could be about to change to give cyclists andpedestrians priority over cars,

On 18/10/2018 12:30, Bod wrote:

Motorists may be required to always give way to pedestrians and cyclists
when turning, under a shake-up of the Highway Code. The Department for
Transport is considering the measure to boost protection of vulnerable
road users going straight on at junctions. Road safety campaigners claim
the Highway Code is unclear about what drivers should do when turning.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/18/drivi...5/?ito=cbshare


It would be a good idea to crystallise and clarify the rule about giving
way to pedestrians crossing the road when turning into a side-street.

It would also be a good idea to harden up the rule about being able to
stop within the distance which can be seen and therefore known to be
clear. I'm thinking here of how a vehicle can bear down on a pedestrian
who is crossing the road - or any other on-carriageway incident - near a
bend which limits sight-lines, making it impossible for him/her to see
approaching vehicles or for approaching vehicles to see him/her.

There is no need for any change with respect to cyclists at junctions.
The position is already crystal-clear. Their riders have the same rights
and responsibilities as other vehicular road-users.



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Old October 18th 18, 08:48 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Jester
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Default Driving rules could be about to change to give cyclists andpedestrians priority over cars,

On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 12:30:55 PM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
Motorists may be required to always give way to pedestrians and cyclists
when turning, under a shake-up of the Highway Code. The Department for
Transport is considering the measure to boost protection of vulnerable
road users going straight on at junctions. Road safety campaigners claim
the Highway Code is unclear about what drivers should do when turning.


How is this any different from the current HC.
As I have said before we need to change social attitudes toward road use.
We need to get rid of the notion that 'The roads are for cars.'

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Old October 18th 18, 10:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Driving rules could be about to change to give cyclists andpedestrians priority over cars,

On 18/10/18 20:48, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 12:30:55 PM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
Motorists may be required to always give way to pedestrians and cyclists
when turning, under a shake-up of the Highway Code. The Department for
Transport is considering the measure to boost protection of vulnerable
road users going straight on at junctions. Road safety campaigners claim
the Highway Code is unclear about what drivers should do when turning.


How is this any different from the current HC.


The current HC merely requires drivers to try not to run people over if
they have gone first. Giving way is about letting them go first.

As I have said before we need to change social attitudes toward road use.
We need to get rid of the notion that 'The roads are for cars.'


It might help if junction markings were changed. The USA shows a way of
doing it and mainland Europe is moving to something similar.
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Old October 18th 18, 11:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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Default Driving rules could be about to change to give cyclists andpedestrians priority over cars,

On 18/10/2018 22:19, TMS320 wrote:
On 18/10/18 20:48, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 12:30:55 PM UTC+1, Bod wrote:
Motorists may be required to always give way to pedestrians and cyclists
when turning, under a shake-up of the Highway Code. The Department for
Transport is considering the measure to boost protection of vulnerable
road users going straight on at junctions. Road safety campaigners claim
the Highway Code is unclear about what drivers should do when turning.


How is this any different from the current HC.


The current HC merely requires drivers to try not to run people over if
they have gone first. Giving way is about letting them go first.

As I have said before we need to change social attitudes toward road use.
We need to get rid of the notion that 'The roads are for cars.'


It might help if junction markings were changed. The USA shows a way of
doing it and mainland Europe is moving to something similar.


I'm a fan of the USA "four way stop".

 




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