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Frank Krygowski wrote:
Hoping to make a point about the cost benefits of factory automation, I asked "If you could buy two cell phones that were exactly identical but one was less expensive, you'd buy that one, right?" One girl adamantly said "No, I'd buy the more expensive one. *It would be better." I said "No, I'm talking about identical phones. *The only difference would be the price." "I'd buy the more expensive one. *More expensive things are always better." She's probably still a marketer's dream. *(I wonder if she rides a bike?) If so, I hope she believes a better-paying job always results in a better life. She'll need that belief to carry her through. My wife grew up the daughter of a physician, and still recounts another doc's daughter and her mother who believed is was beneath them to buy anything that was marked down from its original price. They just wouldn't buy things on sale, no matter the specifics. I believe paying unnecessarily high prices for anything is antisocial, because it directly supports exploitative businesses that are harmful to society, and gives them an advantage over more ethical businesses. Chalo |
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Chalo wrote:
James wrote: Personally, I've been quite happy with Open Pros, the only improvement being the ceramic brake surface treatment. They never wear. My front has done about 100,000km so far (about 10 years). I understand they work well for lithe young girls and Sunday tweed rides. But not real men like you, eh, Chalo? I can buy four rims that will survive a beating for the same price as one of those, though. So what? Still waiting for the yet more expensive "Mavic Open Masters 50 And Over". Nah, most of them ride carbon, like Zipp 303 or 404. Mavic Open Pro's for them are just cheap training wheels. But hang on, that implies they are all lithe young girls or wear plenty of Sundy tweed, doesn't it? JS. |
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Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 4/10/2011 12:28 AM, James wrote: Jeez, don't let it out that you ride over priced European enriched with voodoo rims. Some here don't think they're worth it.[...] Just how much is European Heritage & Mystique™ worth to you? Nothing. I just like 'em because they've worked well for me. JS. |
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The quarter miler from Philly appeared through the grey then white billowing cloud holding out a book streams of sulfurous yellow wisps flowing off its cover. “AHA” thought JB, a bible. I’m IN.” The Philly lawyer, smelling of sulfur, said “ Hi JB! here’s a mint unread copy of Frank Berto’s “Complete Guide to Upgrading Your Bike” |
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On Apr 10, 6:08*am, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote: On 4/10/2011 12:28 AM, James wrote: Jeez, don't let it out that you ride over priced European enriched with voodoo rims. *Some here don't think they're worth it.[...] Just how much is European Heritage & Mystique worth to you? I'm still hoping someone develops spray-on Heritage & Mystique, perhaps with a dash of Cachet. - Frank Krygowski |
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On 4/10/2011 6:27 PM, James Steward wrote:
Chalo wrote: James wrote: Personally, I've been quite happy with Open Pros, the only improvement being the ceramic brake surface treatment. They never wear. My front has done about 100,000km so far (about 10 years). I understand they work well for lithe young girls and Sunday tweed rides. But not real men like you, eh, Chalo? Or at least not Real Men™ with a mass of 155 kg (~340 pounds). I can buy four rims that will survive a beating for the same price as one of those, though. So what? Still waiting for the yet more expensive "Mavic Open Masters 50 And Over". Nah, most of them ride carbon, like Zipp 303 or 404. Mavic Open Pro's for them are just cheap training wheels. But hang on, that implies they are all lithe young girls or wear plenty of Sundy tweed, doesn't it? I thought it was a golf joke? -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 4/10/2011 6:27 PM, James Steward wrote: Chalo wrote: James wrote: Personally, I've been quite happy with Open Pros, the only improvement being the ceramic brake surface treatment. They never wear. My front has done about 100,000km so far (about 10 years). I understand they work well for lithe young girls and Sunday tweed rides. But not real men like you, eh, Chalo? Or at least not Real Menâ„¢ with a mass of 155 kg (~340 pounds). Real or imaginary ( x sqrt(-1)) men (or women, Stan) of that mass, shouldn't attempt to ride a bicycle with components designed for whippets of men such as myself. For them to do so would be tempting fate, and would do nothing to prove the inappropriateness of the equipment for those less than half their mass. I can buy four rims that will survive a beating for the same price as one of those, though. So what? Still waiting for the yet more expensive "Mavic Open Masters 50 And Over". Nah, most of them ride carbon, like Zipp 303 or 404. Mavic Open Pro's for them are just cheap training wheels. But hang on, that implies they are all lithe young girls or wear plenty of Sundy tweed, doesn't it? I thought it was a golf joke? Maybe. Could go either way. JS. |
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On Apr 10, 5:11*am, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote: Back when he was racing, Fabrizio Mazzoleni dominated the Tour de Farce. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. http://www.bikereader.com/contributo.../fabrizio.html |
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
:On Apr 10, 6:08Â*am, Tºm Shermªnâ„¢ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI :$southslope.net" wrote: : On 4/10/2011 12:28 AM, James wrote: : : Jeez, don't let it out that you ride over priced European enriched : with voodoo rims. Â*Some here don't think they're worth it.[...] : : Just how much is European Heritage & Mystique worth to you? :I'm still hoping someone develops spray-on Heritage & Mystique, erhaps with a dash of Cachet. Would stick on work for you? Because that's all that makes a lot of European H&M stuff e. H&M stuff, as Taiwan and China are rather notably not in Europe. -- sig 25 |
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In article
, Frank Krygowski wrote: On Apr 10, 5:46 am, thirty-six wrote: The high price is part of the sell. Some people feel better for spending what they feel is an appropriate amount for the product. They feel they will be faster, fresher and safer. Some years ago, I was giving a tour of our industrial robotics laboratory to some high school students. Hoping to make a point about the cost benefits of factory automation, I asked "If you could buy two cell phones that were exactly identical but one was less expensive, you'd buy that one, right?" One girl adamantly said "No, I'd buy the more expensive one. It would be better." I said "No, I'm talking about identical phones. The only difference would be the price." "I'd buy the more expensive one. More expensive things are always better." She's probably still a marketer's dream. (I wonder if she rides a bike?) `Identical' is a slippery term. Two instances of the same model out of the same factory might have been built to different quality control specifications; or testing revealed that one batch suffered more, but acceptable, defects. -- Michael Press |
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