Pavement motorist injures woman.

Doug wrote:
On 15-Sep-2011, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

Motorists try to blame cyclists for pavement use because they want
to try to brush their own pavement use under the carpet.


Millions of cars on pavements?

parked on pavements maybe, but not undertaking whole journeys upon
pavements.

What you are omitting is that cars need only be driven a short
distance very slowly to be very dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists
if they are rammed in the process. Also, what happens when the
accelerator is mistaken for the brake?


what happens when cyclists fail to brake, or are unable (no brakes) and ram
into pedestrians and wheel chair users? Parking crashes into humans are
extremely rare, valid pavement users being hit by bicycles is quite common.
Given the vast difference in numbers between the two forms of transport then
cyclists are massively over represented. Goodness knows how many people
will be hurt if their numbers rise significantly.

Abo wrote:
On 12/09/2011 05:46, Doug wrote:
It could so easily have been a cyclist victim

But a cyclist wouldn't have been riding on the pavement, surely?

Touche!

On 16/09/2011 07:42, Doug wrote:
On 15-Sep-2011, wrote:

Doug wrote:
On 14-Sep-2011, wrote:

Doug wrote:
On 13-Sep-2011, wrote:

Doug wrote:
On 12-Sep-2011, Tony wrote:

On 12/09/2011 05:46, Doug wrote:
It could so easily have been a cyclist victim

or not

and it clearly shows that
pavements are not that much safer than roads.

It does no such thing.


"Man arrested after woman hit by car in Bedminster

OK


A woman in her 20s has been injured after a car came off the
road and onto
the pavement in Bristol.

Right


Emergency services were called to Cannon Road, in the Bedminster
area of the
city, at 13:15 BST on Sunday.

An Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said the area had been
cordoned off
while officers investigated the scene.

Good


"The woman's injuries are not thought to be life threatening.

Good

A man, also in
his 20s, was arrested in connection," the force spokesman
added."


We don't know what for.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-14872478


So nothing to do with cycling then?

Any potential source of danger on our roads and pavements is of
serious concern to vulnerable cyclists, much as you would like to
brush it all under the carpet.


then address the problem of the millions of cyclists that infest
the pavement every day.

Yes but they are not nearly as dangerous as millions of cars on
pavements every day. Cars may not seem dangerous when they are
parked on pavements but they only have to move a short distance
slowly to be able to kill someone easily, and sometimes they do. Of
course, cars crashing on pavements and damaging buildings, which
they often do, are much more lethally dangerous than bicycles being
ridden on pavements.

Motorists try to blame cyclists for pavement use because they want
to try to brush their own pavement use under the carpet.


There is a massive difference between deliberate use of the pavement
by cyclists and inadvertent use by motorists , mainly the one of
intent. I regard an injury caused by someone deliberately taking an
action as being more serious than an injury caused by someone
accidentally taking an action:
Just the same as any reasonable man and the law.

You forget, motorists intentionally drive onto a pavement in order to
park there, during which they pose a risk to pavement users.
Sometimes motorists also have to drive along the pavement to a
parking place. It can also be argued that the moment a driver climbs
into his car and drives off there is intent to use a highly dangerous
machine in public places, thus posing a risk to others and especially
when there is loss of control of that machine.


incidents of death or injury while someone is parking on the pavement are
as
rare as children being killed by hanging from cycle helmets and much less
common than pedestrians being injured or killed by cyclists that are
deliberately and willfully riding on the pavement knowing full well that
they are being illegal, anti-social and dangerous.

Do you have a source for such a claim?

I have seen many incidents in the last few months of cyclists losing
control
of their bicycles at speed in public places, perhaps it is time for a
maximum speed limit for bicycles.
.
Anecdotal.

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It is so strange, that while walking about, I hardly ever see all these
cars that are driven along the pavements, but I can see cyclists on the
pavements every day.
Do tell me how do I miss seeing these large lumps of metal that are on
the pavement with me, but I can see the much smaller cycles?