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Old December 22nd 10, 06:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen
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Old December 22nd 10, 07:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen


Look at the comments at the bottom. First one is from Fred.
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Old December 22nd 10, 07:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen


Look at the comments at the bottom. First one is from Fred.


Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell
Biker helmet and a flippy flag?

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Old December 22nd 10, 07:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

On 12/22/2010 2:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen


Look at the comments at the bottom. First one is from Fred.


Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell Biker
helmet and a flippy flag?

Thought that it was probably this Fred:
http://www.bicyclinglife.com/safetys...nkNFred010.htm

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Old December 22nd 10, 07:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

On Dec 22, 1:11*pm, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen


Look at the comments at the bottom. *First one is from Fred.


Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell
Biker helmet and a flippy flag?


+black socks and Tevas.

;-)
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Old December 22nd 10, 08:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Jay Beattie
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

On Dec 22, 11:11*am, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen


Look at the comments at the bottom. *First one is from Fred.


Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell
Biker helmet and a flippy flag?


Yes it was, and he's the future of American bicycle commuting
according to infrastructure planners.

This presentation is slick, but it is wrong in so many ways --
particularly when applied to American cities (paraphrasing):
"returning to the way things used to be . . . going back to
bicycles." Dude, California was built around the car. Sure, we rode
bikes as kids, but any adult who commuted by bike was considered some
Bohemian freak. Bicycle commuting was never big on the West Coast --
and in fact, it is bigger now than when I was a kid. His vaccine
analogy also is wrong -- FDA needs two confirming studies, which there
are for helmets. A "fourteen percent greater chance" of getting in to
an accident while wearing a helmet (?). What, did they run the same
riders with and without helmets? He mistates helmet testing protocol,
at least in America. I have no interest in MHLs, but this sort of
laugh-a-minute banter is useless. It's like talk radio.-- Jay Beattie.

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Old December 22nd 10, 08:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

Jay Beattie wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:11 am, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen
Look at the comments at the bottom. First one is from Fred.

Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell
Biker helmet and a flippy flag?


Yes it was, and he's the future of American bicycle commuting
according to infrastructure planners.

This presentation is slick, but it is wrong in so many ways --
particularly when applied to American cities (paraphrasing):
"returning to the way things used to be . . . going back to
bicycles." Dude, California was built around the car. Sure, we rode
bikes as kids, but any adult who commuted by bike was considered some
Bohemian freak. Bicycle commuting was never big on the West Coast --
and in fact, it is bigger now than when I was a kid. His vaccine
analogy also is wrong -- FDA needs two confirming studies, which there
are for helmets. A "fourteen percent greater chance" of getting in to
an accident while wearing a helmet (?). What, did they run the same
riders with and without helmets? He mistates helmet testing protocol,
at least in America. I have no interest in MHLs, but this sort of
laugh-a-minute banter is useless. It's like talk radio.-- Jay Beattie.


Right. Except Dr Laura "grow up already!" Schelsinger, who
often advises, "ride your bicycle" as a counter to malaise.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Old December 22nd 10, 08:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane Hébert
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

On 12/22/2010 3:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Jay Beattie wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:11 am, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen
Look at the comments at the bottom. First one is from Fred.
Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell
Biker helmet and a flippy flag?


Yes it was, and he's the future of American bicycle commuting
according to infrastructure planners.

This presentation is slick, but it is wrong in so many ways --
particularly when applied to American cities (paraphrasing):
"returning to the way things used to be . . . going back to
bicycles." Dude, California was built around the car. Sure, we rode
bikes as kids, but any adult who commuted by bike was considered some
Bohemian freak. Bicycle commuting was never big on the West Coast --
and in fact, it is bigger now than when I was a kid. His vaccine
analogy also is wrong -- FDA needs two confirming studies, which there
are for helmets. A "fourteen percent greater chance" of getting in to
an accident while wearing a helmet (?). What, did they run the same
riders with and without helmets? He mistates helmet testing protocol,
at least in America. I have no interest in MHLs, but this sort of
laugh-a-minute banter is useless. It's like talk radio.-- Jay Beattie.


Right. Except Dr Laura "grow up already!" Schelsinger, who often
advises, "ride your bicycle" as a counter to malaise.


Maybe that's why the malaise is setting in with all of the frigging snow
here...
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Old December 22nd 10, 08:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 3:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Jay Beattie wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:11 am, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen
Look at the comments at the bottom. First one is from Fred.
Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell
Biker helmet and a flippy flag?

Yes it was, and he's the future of American bicycle commuting
according to infrastructure planners.

This presentation is slick, but it is wrong in so many ways --
particularly when applied to American cities (paraphrasing):
"returning to the way things used to be . . . going back to
bicycles." Dude, California was built around the car. Sure, we rode
bikes as kids, but any adult who commuted by bike was considered some
Bohemian freak. Bicycle commuting was never big on the West Coast --
and in fact, it is bigger now than when I was a kid. His vaccine
analogy also is wrong -- FDA needs two confirming studies, which there
are for helmets. A "fourteen percent greater chance" of getting in to
an accident while wearing a helmet (?). What, did they run the same
riders with and without helmets? He mistates helmet testing protocol,
at least in America. I have no interest in MHLs, but this sort of
laugh-a-minute banter is useless. It's like talk radio.-- Jay Beattie.


Right. Except Dr Laura "grow up already!" Schelsinger, who often
advises, "ride your bicycle" as a counter to malaise.


Maybe that's why the malaise is setting in with all of the frigging snow
here...


I'm with you there, brother. I dumped my bike at dawn today
on ice unseen beneath the snow. Hey if winter riding was
easy, everybody would do it!

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
  #10  
Old December 22nd 10, 08:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane Hébert
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Default Why we should bike w/o a helmet--from the TED conference

On 12/22/2010 3:47 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 3:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
Jay Beattie wrote:
On Dec 22, 11:11 am, AMuzi wrote:
Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/22/2010 1:54 PM, landotter wrote:
http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video...ville-andersen
Look at the comments at the bottom. First one is from Fred.
Was that _The_ Fred? The guy with a yellow windbreaker, Bell
Biker helmet and a flippy flag?

Yes it was, and he's the future of American bicycle commuting
according to infrastructure planners.

This presentation is slick, but it is wrong in so many ways --
particularly when applied to American cities (paraphrasing):
"returning to the way things used to be . . . going back to
bicycles." Dude, California was built around the car. Sure, we rode
bikes as kids, but any adult who commuted by bike was considered some
Bohemian freak. Bicycle commuting was never big on the West Coast --
and in fact, it is bigger now than when I was a kid. His vaccine
analogy also is wrong -- FDA needs two confirming studies, which there
are for helmets. A "fourteen percent greater chance" of getting in to
an accident while wearing a helmet (?). What, did they run the same
riders with and without helmets? He mistates helmet testing protocol,
at least in America. I have no interest in MHLs, but this sort of
laugh-a-minute banter is useless. It's like talk radio.-- Jay Beattie.


Right. Except Dr Laura "grow up already!" Schelsinger, who often
advises, "ride your bicycle" as a counter to malaise.


Maybe that's why the malaise is setting in with all of the frigging snow
here...


I'm with you there, brother. I dumped my bike at dawn today on ice
unseen beneath the snow. Hey if winter riding was easy, everybody would
do it!


Yeah. Up side is that the skis are getting sharpened, even as we speak.
Missing the bike though.
 




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