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Old July 15th 05, 06:27 PM
Ron Engels
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Thanks for all the answers. I've got a few things to try now. The shop were
I bought the bike has already offered to fit a shorter stem to see if that's
better for me. If I combine all of your suggestions, the best way to go is
probably try the shorter stem, possibly in combination with the seat a bit
backward, and maybe experiment a little with the position of the handle bar
and height of the sadlle. But one thing at a time I think, and small steps.
Thanks again,

Ron.


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Old July 15th 05, 06:34 PM
Ron Engels
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'Built specially for you' as in custom? Sounds like not too hot of a
job. Shorter and perhaps rise stem after KOPS??


No, I probably misused the term specially built. It's a standard frame
(Pinarello Prince SL) with all the parts selected and adjusted to fit me.
That means according to the measuring system they use. I'm quite happy with
the bike as a whole, this is the only thing I'd like to see improved.

Thanks, Ron.

http://www.pilotswatch.nl/images/pinarello/IMG_1607.jpg


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Old July 15th 05, 07:53 PM
Arthur Harris
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"Ron Engels" wrote:
It's a standard frame (Pinarello Prince SL) with all the parts selected
and adjusted to fit me. That means according to the measuring system they
use. I'm quite happy with the bike as a whole, this is the only thing I'd
like to see improved.


http://www.pilotswatch.nl/images/pinarello/IMG_1607.jpg


From the picture, it looks to me like the saddle might be tilted downward
just a bit. If so, that will definitely put extra pressure on your hands.
Check it with a bubble level. I'd also tilt the bars up a couple of degrees
(and personally, I'd also get rid of the "anatomic" bars.)

Art


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Old July 15th 05, 09:07 PM
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Ron Engels wrote:

fit me. This is my second road bike, and it feels a l ot better then the
first. As a matter of fact, everything below the waist feels perfect. It's
just that I think I need to reach too far when riding with my hands on top
of the brake handles.I can ride quite comfortably with my hands on top of
the handle bar, and also with my hands down in the drops (I think that's
what you call 'em) if I move them as far back wards as possible. So I guess
the best option would be to try a shorter stem. The vertical position is
fine I think, I'm not l ooking for a more upright position.


http://www.pilotswatch.nl/images/pinarello/IMG_1607.jpg

You have the bike set up with a huge drop from saddle to bars, the seat
tube angle looks steep (puts saddle far forward), and you have the
saddle moved forward as far as it goes on the rails. The resulting
posture is made for specialized racing, and is not intended to be
comfortable.

Do you race? If not, I can't understand why you would want this bike,
or at least why it would be sized this way. A shorter stem is not the
central problem. For comfort you need to raise the bars, move the seat
back, rotate the nose of the saddle up (possibly use a different
saddle), and rotate the bars up. (I guess you have the nose down
because the saddle is so far forward.) These may improve things
somewhat and if you can get comfortable on this bike without a new fork
(to get a taller steer tube), then I congratulate you. This is not the
set up for a comfortable ride. Even riders in the Tour de France would
generally not have a set up like this.{

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Old July 15th 05, 09:19 PM
Mike
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On 2005-07-15, Arthur Harris wrote:
"Ron Engels" wrote:
It's a standard frame (Pinarello Prince SL) with all the parts selected
and adjusted to fit me. That means according to the measuring system they
use. I'm quite happy with the bike as a whole, this is the only thing I'd
like to see improved.


http://www.pilotswatch.nl/images/pinarello/IMG_1607.jpg


From the picture, it looks to me like the saddle might be tilted downward
just a bit. If so, that will definitely put extra pressure on your hands.
Check it with a bubble level. I'd also tilt the bars up a couple of degrees
(and personally, I'd also get rid of the "anatomic" bars.)

Art



That's a neat stand. Is that available on the market?

Mike
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Old July 15th 05, 09:38 PM
Arthur Harris
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"41" wrote:

You have the bike set up with a huge drop from saddle to bars, the seat
tube angle looks steep (puts saddle far forward), and you have the
saddle moved forward as far as it goes on the rails. The resulting
posture is made for specialized racing, and is not intended to be
comfortable.

Do you race? If not, I can't understand why you would want this bike,
or at least why it would be sized this way. A shorter stem is not the
central problem. For comfort you need to raise the bars, move the seat
back, rotate the nose of the saddle up (possibly use a different
saddle), and rotate the bars up. (I guess you have the nose down
because the saddle is so far forward.) These may improve things
somewhat and if you can get comfortable on this bike without a new fork
(to get a taller steer tube), then I congratulate you. This is not the
set up for a comfortable ride.


I tend to agree with all of the above. This bike is set up as an all out
racing machine.

Art Harris


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Old July 15th 05, 10:39 PM
Lou Holtman
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Mike wrote:
On 2005-07-15, Arthur Harris wrote:

"Ron Engels" wrote:

It's a standard frame (Pinarello Prince SL) with all the parts selected
and adjusted to fit me. That means according to the measuring system they
use. I'm quite happy with the bike as a whole, this is the only thing I'd
like to see improved.


http://www.pilotswatch.nl/images/pinarello/IMG_1607.jpg


From the picture, it looks to me like the saddle might be tilted downward
just a bit. If so, that will definitely put extra pressure on your hands.
Check it with a bubble level. I'd also tilt the bars up a couple of degrees
(and personally, I'd also get rid of the "anatomic" bars.)

Art




That's a neat stand. Is that available on the market?

Mike



Yes it is:

http://www.roseversand.nl/rose_main....I D=0&CID=175

Lou
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Old July 16th 05, 04:01 AM
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Per 41:
Even riders in the Tour de France would
generally not have a set up like this.{


I'd always gone on the assumption that my own setup was strictly for geezers
like me. Imagine my surprise when I watched pix of the tour and most of the
riders, when riding on the hoods, seemed to have almost exactly the same posture
I have on my own bike.


OTOH, I frequently see people with their bars well below the saddle. I guess
their comfortable, but always come away wondering if they've given any other
positions a chance.
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Old July 16th 05, 05:22 PM
Pete
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Well, from the picture, it's pretty obvious why you feel weight on your
hands. Your handlebars are like 6 inches lower than the saddle. What do you
expect?


http://www.pilotswatch.nl/images/pinarello/IMG_1607.jpg




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Old July 16th 05, 05:52 PM
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:22:18 -0400, "Pete" wrote:

Well, from the picture, it's pretty obvious why you feel weight on your
hands. Your handlebars are like 6 inches lower than the saddle. What do you
expect?


http://www.pilotswatch.nl/images/pinarello/IMG_1607.jpg




Yeah. If someone (of normal proportions) is going to ride a set-up
like that, they'd better have the body to go along with it. Including
a strong lower back to keep the body stable w/o a ton of weight on the
hands.

That's a pretty "advanced" position for a very athletic cyclist.

JT


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