Cyclists waste petrol

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:52:20 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/24/2018 02:04 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:52:22 +0100, soup
wrote:

On 16/09/2018 20:17, Rod Speed wrote:

Because even deserts get rain.
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites...ustralia-1.jpg


Some deserts even get snow.

https://www.universetoday.com/27064/...sert-on-earth/

"a desert is a region that is simply very dry because its receives
little to no water"
"deserts are characterized by little to no moisture"
Snow is frozen water. It has loads. So the example in the photo is not
a desert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0kQsnpYMo

From what was said that was unusual. So my point stands.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 03:21:02 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 09/24/2018 02:04 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:52:22 +0100, soup
wrote:

On 16/09/2018 20:17, Rod Speed wrote:

Because even deserts get rain.
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites...ustralia-1.jpg


Some deserts even get snow.

https://www.universetoday.com/27064/...sert-on-earth/

"a desert is a region that is simply very dry because its receives
little to no water"
"deserts are characterized by little to no moisture"
Snow is frozen water. It has loads. So the example in the photo is not
a desert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0kQsnpYMo

****, you're ugly.

Who says that's him?
How can ou tell from a small icon?
He needs to shave.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:45:15 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/24/2018 02:01 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 04:16:14 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/23/2018 03:52 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:27:35 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/23/2018 01:45 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:06:46 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/23/2018 09:13 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

His kid inherited a taste for Bonnevilles which he couldn't
start to
afford. He was always one paycheck away from destitution.

Isn't everyone?


Er, no.

Most are. 5% of the population have 95% of the money, or some figures
close to that.

Many are ****ing idiots that are living beyond their means.

50% of most people's outgoings are their mortgage. Land is too damn
expensive, because we're vastly overpopulated. We're not actually
buying anything real, just the right to use a bit of land.

Did anyone have a gun at their head to force them to buy a house they
can't afford?

Hardly anybody starts out life with enough money to buy a house. Almost
everyone has to borrow. I'd never have kids unless I could buy them at
least a small house outright.

Yes, but not everyone has to buy a house. I know the argument about
'real estate always goes up. Eventually.' but I've had several friends
that were stuck trying to unload a house in a soft market. I see them as
rather expensive ball and chains.

Well if you don't buy a house, you either live in a tent, or you rent a place which costs more, you don't get to keep it, and you don't get to modify it.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 03:14:48 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 09/24/2018 01:54 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:54:40 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/23/2018 09:23 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Debit cards work fine for that here. No credit rating
needed to get one. No credit rating to get a credit
card here either, just a statement of your income etc.
They do check if you have defaults, but there is no
problem if you don't have any defaults.

They would work here too I guess. My ATM card is technically a debit
card. I used to use it for gas purchases. It worked fine until I got out
of the bank's territory. It took me a while to figure out why the pump
wasn't authorizing. After that I switched to another card that I use
almost exclusively when traveling.

Decades ago we had a problem with Access (now Mastercard) and Visa
credit cards, some worked in some places, some in others. Now
everything works everywhere. Cash cards were the same, two concurrent
incompatible systems, but now work together.

I simply have one card. It's a cash card and a debit card in one. I
can use it to withdraw cash at any ATM anywhere in the world, make an
online payment anywhere in the world, and buy from a shop or gas station
anywhere in the world. It's got a Visa logo on it.

And pay a fee at any ATM in the world...

Some of ours rebate that fee, with an ATM anywhere in the world.

Ditto. Anyway it's only for emergency use. Besides, you pay a fee when you exchange currency anyway.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 03:13:53 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

rbowman wrote
Rod Speed wrote

The ATMs here allow you to stuff a great wad
of notes into the machine and it will count them
and put them in your bank account. Much more
convenient than going into the physical bank now.

Ours don't count afaik. You put the cash in a deposit
envelope and slide it in and it's processed later.

Ours have always done that. This other automatic scanning
and counting is a new feature that not all of the ATMs have.
It also rejects notes it doesn't like and it rejected one with
very small folded corner. Apparently it will accept those if
you unfold the corner and try again, but I only found out
about that after I put that one back in my wallet.

Strangely I can do that in a supermarket, but not the cash machine. Ours just take an envelope full and a cashier counts it later.

I never use the machine anyway as 50% of the time it's broken, so I just walk into the branch and drop a pre-filled envelope in a deposit box.

Our notes are all plastic now, we gave up on paper ones
years ago now.

We just changed recently. Annoyingly they also changed one of the coins, so they're slightly bigger and no longer fit in any machines until they're all changed over at the shop's expense. Clueless Royal Mint, they do that every 5 years.

I haven't done that since my employer
finally figured out direct deposit.

Ours all did that before ATMs showed up.

Just because we develop software for a living doesn't
mean the elves upstairs are computer literate.

Yeah, it did take a while before everyone allowed you to pay
for stuff like the newspaper delivery service electronically.

And the dinosaur operation that I get the swamp cooler
pads from wouldn't even accept any cards at all the last
time I got new pads. Cash or check was all they would
accept. I used to keep a single blank check in the wallet
for that situation and it was pretty battered by the time
I needed to use it to pay for those. He was a bid dubious
about it, but it worked fine. I no longer have any accounts
with check books although I could get a book if I wanted.

Cash is needed for things like:
School outings
Paying a painter or builder
Getting on a bus

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:38:14 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/24/2018 02:00 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I assume you mean when paying by cash. I've never seen a cash pump in
the UK. I use a debit card, I put it in first, then it charges me for
however much gas I take.

This was the first one I've seen that takes cash and it was at a station
that just opened this summer.

In France I came across something very annoying, especially as I couldn't read the notice telling me what to do. You paid to the cashier woman, but you had to go give her your card first, to prevent petrol theft.

On another occasion (in France) I wasn't watching the pump, but heard it come on as I pressed the lever. When it stopped I went to pay, and they refused to take my money. I left wondering why they were giving me free petrol, then realised my tank was still empty. The noise must have been for the other side.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:35:19 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/24/2018 01:57 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 11:51:52 +0100, devnull wrote:

On 09/23/2018 05:52 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
50% of most people's outgoings are their mortgage. Land is too damn
expensive, because we're vastly overpopulated. We're not actually
buying anything real, just the right to use a bit of land.

.

Property taxes are collected from working taxpayer citizens so the
democrats can give it to their lazy constituents.

Most of my taxes pay for things I don't use, like schools, libraries,
hospitals, etc. All those things should be pay per use.

We have mill levy initiatives on the ballot. I vote no on the schools
and yes for the library and Parks and Recreation. I must not be the only
curmudgeon in town. The library and parks items always pass, the schools
don't. You can try again in six months so the school funding comes up
every six months and gets shot down every six months. They're like the
kids they are supposedly teaching; ask enough times and eventually Mom
will screw up and say yes.

Everyone should pay to have their own kids educated. Can't afford it? Don't have kids or have stupid kids or teach them yourself.

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:28:44 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:51:38 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:52:22 +0100, soup
wrote:

On 16/09/2018 20:17, Rod Speed wrote:

Because even deserts get rain.
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites...ustralia-1.jpg

Some deserts even get snow.

https://www.universetoday.com/27064/...sert-on-earth/

"a desert is a region that is simply very dry because its receives
little
to no water"

That is a stupid definition, there are in fact none that receive no water
at
all.

"deserts are characterized by little to no moisture"
Snow is frozen water. It has loads. So the example in the photo is not
a
desert.

You're wrong, as always.

A desert is like the Sahara -

That is just one form of desert.

virtually no rain, **** all grows.

Ditto.

It's the meaning of the word everyone normally uses.

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:52:20 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/24/2018 02:04 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:52:22 +0100, soup
wrote:

On 16/09/2018 20:17, Rod Speed wrote:

Because even deserts get rain.
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites...ustralia-1.jpg


Some deserts even get snow.

https://www.universetoday.com/27064/...sert-on-earth/

"a desert is a region that is simply very dry because its receives
little to no water"
"deserts are characterized by little to no moisture"
Snow is frozen water. It has loads. So the example in the photo is not
a desert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0kQsnpYMo

From what was said that was unusual. So my point stands.

No it doesn't because that isnt the only desert that sees snow.

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 03:21:02 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 09/24/2018 02:04 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:52:22 +0100, soup
wrote:

On 16/09/2018 20:17, Rod Speed wrote:

Because even deserts get rain.
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites...ustralia-1.jpg


Some deserts even get snow.

https://www.universetoday.com/27064/...sert-on-earth/

"a desert is a region that is simply very dry because its receives
little to no water"
"deserts are characterized by little to no moisture"
Snow is frozen water. It has loads. So the example in the photo is
not
a desert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0kQsnpYMo

****, you're ugly.

Who says that's him?

I do, and don't you forget it.

How can ou tell from a small icon?

I use my glasses, stupid.

He needs to shave.

Nope, only fools shave. And only poofters shave their legs.