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Old September 25th 18, 08:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:05:38 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 03:13:53 +0100, Rod Speed
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rbowman wrote
Rod Speed wrote

The ATMs here allow you to stuff a great wad
of notes into the machine and it will count them
and put them in your bank account. Much more
convenient than going into the physical bank now.

Ours don't count afaik. You put the cash in a deposit
envelope and slide it in and it's processed later.

Ours have always done that. This other automatic scanning
and counting is a new feature that not all of the ATMs have.
It also rejects notes it doesn't like and it rejected one with
very small folded corner. Apparently it will accept those if
you unfold the corner and try again, but I only found out
about that after I put that one back in my wallet.


Strangely I can do that in a supermarket, but not the cash machine. Ours
just take an envelope full and a cashier counts it later.


Ours have always done that last, but more recently
most now accept wads of cash and count it and
give you back the notes it doesn't like on the spot.


Only TSB here here takes cash at all.

I never use the machine anyway as 50% of the time it's broken,


Ours are hardly ever broken.


Ours probably gets thumped every time some chav runs out of money.

so I just walk into the branch and drop a pre-filled envelope in a deposit
box.


We always had a drawer on the outside wall of the
bank that you could do that with even when the
bank was closed. Dunno if they still have those, havent
looked closely for more than half a century at those.


Yes there's one here. I was sent a text telling me not to deposit large amounts of cash into it (I was putting in about £1500 at a time) as it wasn't secure?!?

Our notes are all plastic now, we gave up on paper ones years ago now.


We just changed recently. Annoyingly they also changed one of the coins,
so they're slightly bigger and no longer fit in any machines until they're
all changed over at the shop's expense. Clueless Royal Mint, they do that
every 5 years.


Yeah, that is pretty stupid, but I havent used a coin machine
in more than half a century now. Plenty of ours allow you to
use your phone now.


Not for the ****ed up supermarkets that need a coin to get the trolley. Aldi and Lidl do that here, Asda and Morrisons don't.

Corse some are too stupid to have a
decent modern smartphone so they have to dinosaur along.


I see no reason to carry a device that large with me. A card is much thinner.

I haven't done that since my employer
finally figured out direct deposit.

Ours all did that before ATMs showed up.

Just because we develop software for a living doesn't
mean the elves upstairs are computer literate.

Yeah, it did take a while before everyone allowed you to pay
for stuff like the newspaper delivery service electronically.

And the dinosaur operation that I get the swamp cooler
pads from wouldn't even accept any cards at all the last
time I got new pads. Cash or check was all they would
accept. I used to keep a single blank check in the wallet
for that situation and it was pretty battered by the time
I needed to use it to pay for those. He was a bid dubious
about it, but it worked fine. I no longer have any accounts
with check books although I could get a book if I wanted.


Cash is needed for things like:
School outings


Havent been on one of those for well over half a century
now and we didn't have to pay for those then anyway.


They do now. Up to about £70.

Not sure what school tuckshops accept now. That kid
that I used to be the personal banker for did use coins
for that even tho he always had his iphone with him,
but I never could get him to use apple pay even when
I did manage to find one bank that allowed him to
have an account with them because of his age and
which also did apple pay.


An iphone is a ****ing expensive way of paying money. Debit cards are free.

Paying a painter or builder
Getting on a bus


Not here, you can't use coins, you need to use a card.


I'm not 100% sure as I tend to avoid pubic transport.

Insisting on a card on buses here would be daft, as 50% of cards don't have contactless yet, so it would take forever while everyone typed in their pin. I never use contactless as it has a £30 limit which makes it useless for 95% of my transactions.

I still use cash at the garage/yard sales because altho
I can pay to any mobile number it isnt worth convincing
those who I am paying that that is possible with a queue
of people trying to pay for what they want to buy and it
isnt as convenient for the seller anyway to get the money.


I doubt you could pay to my mobile number, I don't have anything like that set up. The only way I can gert money from you is cash or payment to my current account.
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  #562  
Old September 25th 18, 08:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:28:48 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:28:44 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:51:38 +0100, Rod Speed

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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:52:22 +0100, soup

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On 16/09/2018 20:17, Rod Speed wrote:

Because even deserts get rain.
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites...ustralia-1.jpg

Some deserts even get snow.

https://www.universetoday.com/27064/...sert-on-earth/

"a desert is a region that is simply very dry because its receives
little
to no water"

That is a stupid definition, there are in fact none that receive no
water
at
all.

"deserts are characterized by little to no moisture"
Snow is frozen water. It has loads. So the example in the photo is
not
a
desert.

You're wrong, as always.

A desert is like the Sahara -

That is just one form of desert.

virtually no rain, **** all grows.

Ditto.

It's the meaning of the word everyone normally uses.


Only the pig ignorant fools like you.


Not really an important word in the UK.


Irrelevant.

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Old September 25th 18, 09:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:28:09 +0100, Rod Speed
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:35:19 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/24/2018 01:57 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 11:51:52 +0100, devnull wrote:

On 09/23/2018 05:52 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
50% of most people's outgoings are their mortgage. Land is too damn
expensive, because we're vastly overpopulated. We're not actually
buying anything real, just the right to use a bit of land.

.

Property taxes are collected from working taxpayer citizens so the
democrats can give it to their lazy constituents.

Most of my taxes pay for things I don't use, like schools, libraries,
hospitals, etc. All those things should be pay per use.

We have mill levy initiatives on the ballot. I vote no on the schools
and yes for the library and Parks and Recreation. I must not be the
only
curmudgeon in town. The library and parks items always pass, the
schools
don't. You can try again in six months so the school funding comes up
every six months and gets shot down every six months. They're like the
kids they are supposedly teaching; ask enough times and eventually Mom
will screw up and say yes.

Everyone should pay to have their own kids educated.


Pity about those who don't have anything to pay with.


They shouldn't have kids.


But they are much more likely to have them accidentally.

Can't afford it? Don't have kids or have stupid kids


Who the state has to pay benefits to for 'life'


They shouldn't pay them.


The corpses can end up a bit smelly when they starve to death
and can be a complete pain in the arse begging in the street
or breaking into your house to get something to eat etc.

or teach them yourself.


If they are that stupid, that isnt going to work.


Then they shouldn't have kids.


If they are that stupid and uneducated, they
won't even know where kids come from, stupid.

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Old September 25th 18, 09:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:25:49 +0100, Rod Speed
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 02:38:14 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/24/2018 02:00 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I assume you mean when paying by cash. I've never seen a cash pump in
the UK. I use a debit card, I put it in first, then it charges me for
however much gas I take.

This was the first one I've seen that takes cash and it was at a
station
that just opened this summer.

In France I came across something very annoying, especially as I
couldn't
read the notice telling me what to do. You paid to the cashier woman,
but
you had to go give her your card first, to prevent petrol theft.


It doesn't prevent petrol theft because you can
just give her a maxed out or cancelled card.


I assume they do what the machine does and check the balance first.


Not possible when you don't know how much will be pumped.
It can't check that the maximum possible to be pumped can
be paid for because plenty will just pump what they can pay for.

Something weird happens with our machines, I think they take £100 from
your card when you insert it, then refund what you don't use out of that
when you've finished. You don't have to reinsert the card. Presumably if
you only had £40 in the card, it would stop pumping at £40. I've never
had a card with under £100 in it, and I've never tried to take more than
£100 of petrol, so I don't know what it does.


Wouldn't be hard to test if you have more than
one card and only a stupid has only one card.

On another occasion (in France) I wasn't watching the pump, but heard it
come on as I pressed the lever. When it stopped I went to pay, and they
refused to take my money. I left wondering why

they were giving me free petrol, then realised my tank was still
empty. The noise must have been for the other side.


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Old September 26th 18, 04:16 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/25/2018 09:20 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 03:21:02 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 09/24/2018 02:04 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:52:22 +0100, soup
wrote:

On 16/09/2018 20:17, Rod Speed wrote:

Because even deserts get rain.
https://www.ancient-origins.es/sites...ustralia-1.jpg



Some deserts even get snow.

https://www.universetoday.com/27064/...sert-on-earth/


"a desert is a region that is simply very dry because its receives
little to no water"
"deserts are characterized by little to no moisture"
Snow is frozen water. It has loads. So the example in the photo is
not
a desert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0kQsnpYMo


****, you're ugly.


Who says that's him?
How can ou tell from a small icon?
He needs to shave.


My beard is longer than his and I'm a lot older.
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Old September 26th 18, 04:19 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/25/2018 09:21 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Well if you don't buy a house, you either live in a tent, or you rent a
place which costs more, you don't get to keep it, and you don't get to
modify it.


Wrong on at least two counts.
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Old September 26th 18, 04:20 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/25/2018 09:25 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
We just changed recently. Annoyingly they also changed one of the
coins, so they're slightly bigger and no longer fit in any machines
until they're all changed over at the shop's expense. Clueless Royal
Mint, they do that every 5 years.


At least you don't have Loonies...

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Old September 26th 18, 04:44 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/25/2018 11:48 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
In France I came across something very annoying, especially as I
couldn't read the notice telling me what to do. You paid to the cashier
woman, but you had to go give her your card first, to prevent petrol theft.


Nothing like being illiterate... I've had that problem in Quebec. My
grandmother was from there but she left her French at the border.

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Old September 26th 18, 04:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/25/2018 11:49 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


Everyone should pay to have their own kids educated. Can't afford it?
Don't have kids or have stupid kids or teach them yourself.


That was sort of how it worked when I lived in New Hampshire. There was
no income or sales tax so most things were funded by local property
taxes. If you wanted to live in a town with a good school system you
ponied up. If you didn't care you lived someplace else.


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Old September 26th 18, 09:36 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 9/26/18 6:52 AM, The Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 03:53:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:


Not with some of my accounts.


By everyone's account you are a senile pest, senile Rot! G

Liar.
 




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