Cyclists waste petrol

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Ours

There's NO "ours" for you, you lonely senile Ozzie cretin! Nobody in his
right mind would ever identify with a cantankerous senile piece of ****
like you! That's why you need to get up every morning between ONE and FOUR
o'clock in Australia just to be able to talk to someone on Usenet! You are
disgusting!

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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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news On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman
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On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed
a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

They're actually quite a bit smarter than most, just a
neurotic bundle of nerves. They basically evolved that
way because they are prey to stuff like lions and tigers etc.

At one time I worked on a Forest Service ranch that was the winter home
for about 250 head of saddle and pack stock, both mules and horses. I
preferred the mules. The only problem is a mule is smart enough to look
out for number one while you can coax a horse into doing stupid things.
otoh, most mules aren't afraid of a length of rope laying in the trail,
running water, tree branches blowing in the wind, llamas, bicycles, elk,
deer, shadows, or whatever else will trigger a horse.

I've just been to this one again and was again reminded that quite a few
of them were kept where they were wanted to be when not actually doing
anything by just a line of white plastic cord keeping them from wandering
around.

That's surprising, I always see temporary electric fence.

Not sure that would work very well with Clydesdales, they have very hairy
legs.

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:37:49 +0100, rbowman
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On 09/30/2018 11:08 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Yes. Generally called spark plug wires in this country. They may be
a
thing of the past. My Toyota doesn't have any but I don't know how
common that is.

It will, but they're concealed in one tube.

No concealment on the Toyota. It has Coil-on-Plug ignition.

https://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/to...nition-coils-1


Why do they tend to put the coils on the plugs now instead of having
one big coil?

Because it works better not distributing the high voltage thru the
distributor.
And because it works better with modern computer controlled engines.

This should be fun, explaining it to someone who by their own admission
hasn't a clue of how an IC engine works...

Yeah, bet he doesn't even know what a distributor does.

My first car was a Rover, with the distributor mounted just behind the
front wheelarch, where it regularly got soaked. I know all about the
bloody things.

But you havent noticed that modern computer controlled injected cars don't
have them. So they can't use the old style single high voltage coil which
gets
the high voltage distributed to the individual spark plugs by the
distributor.

"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 03:49:03 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:44 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:27:05 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses enough
to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the motor
car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

A common description around here is a cowboy is the third dumbest
critter riding the second dumbest and chasing the first dumbest.

I would agree with that statement.

I wouldn't, sheep are a lot dumber than cattle.

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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On 10/02/2018 05:01 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:26:26 +0100, rbowman
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On 09/30/2018 10:00 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 03:12:20 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/10/2018 12:53 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


Are your roads littered with speed bumps? I go over perhaps 200
a
day.

That cinches it. No trip to the UK for me. Some of our dirt roads
have
speed bumps, aka small boulders, but I've never seen them other
than on
private roads.

Round here they put them in the stupidest of places, for example
10
yards from a junction, where nobody could possibly be speeding
anyway.

And apparently they cost £10,000 each to install including
paperwork.


We have various 'traffic calming' schemes like roundabouts and
bulbouts
but speed bumps would really **** off the snowplow crews to say
nothing
of the cops.

Even some of the semi-private areas are getting rid of them. I hit
one
of the damn things on my bicycle. The sun was in my eyes and I
didn't
see it coming so I taco'd my front wheel and did a face plant. I
was
not
happy.

You should have attempted to sue the council (or whatever you call
them over there). Causing injury to a cyclist can't be allowed
surely?

I hope I one day catch an old lady tripping over one on my dashcam.
I've seen it happen before, a pensioner crosses the road and trips
on
the stupid thing. But I need proof.

Further north, they have bollards on the narrowing things (we call
them chicanes,

Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane

I assume that's what you refer to as a bulbout).

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_extension


https://missoulian.com/news/local/bi...cc4c03286.html

These are the worst of both. The theory is pedestrians will be out in
the
street, visible, and have a shorter path.

Yeah, we have those outside one of our primary/grade schools.

They suck for bicycles since you're forced out in the traffic lane,
and
are difficult for trucks and buses to navigate.

There are also micro-roundabouts. Basically you take a 4-way
intersection
of residential streets, build a little round island in the middle,

Yeah, we have lots of those.

and plant flowers.

Nothing in the middle with ours, only with the big ones.

The first moving van in the area runs over the thing since it's
impossible
to navigate around it with anything bigger than a mini-van.

Ours are low enough so that trucks and vans can
just drive of them, with a shallow curb so they
don't even have to slow down to do that.

I drive over a lot of them with my car.

I don't, but that's because I don't want to lose more demerit
points and have to walk instead of drive. Its easy enough to
stay on the road itself and I mostly don't go straight thru
most of our smallest roundabouts anyway.

Howe many ****ing pigs do you have?

Heaps. Must be something like 30 in my town which has a population of 30K

And I thought it was bad here. If I drive through the centre of town, I'll see about 3 cops in 10 minutes. But they're mostly in marked cars, so I see them first.

Got breath tested twice last weekend on the saturday morning after
the garage sale run. The were 4 cop cars with about 10 pigs at the
first one and just the one with just one pig at the second one. That
was a long weekend here tho, and double demerits for 5 days.

With the run over to the Henty Machinery Field Days a week
or so before, saw 5 cop cars booking people going to that.

Is this because Aussies drink more beer, or because your ****wit government likes to waste money?

They all have full time radar in their cars and that works
whether they are moving or not. And they all do ANR too.

What a bunch of ****ing ******s.

Not sure if I damage the suspension more doing that than I would damage
the steering by swerving round the ****ing things.

No need to swerve and that doesn't damage the steering anyway.

At the speed I travel, it's called swerving.

But the main thing is I damage the stupid thing on the road.

Doesn't damage ours, even when you drive over
it with a fully loaded semi what you lot call an HGV.

It does eventually. Many tonnes of steel creating quite a shock load over
and over again.

Not when the concrete is done properly.
None of ours have ever needed to be replaced.

Never underestimate the uselessness of British engineers, especially those employed by the government, where they always select the cheapest, not the best.

Where lots of people have done it, they sink due to all the knocks they
get.

Ours don't. Unfortunately all our smallest roundabouts have
been done since our last street view so I can't show you easily.

Perhaps having dryer ground things don't sink so much.

They don't sink at all.

"Not at all" is a subcategory of "not so much".

You can see here they've already repatched the area around them, and it's
cracking again after only 2 years:
https://goo.gl/maps/6xi5vut42yB2

That's not the smallest roundabouts, that's speed humps.

It was bumps I was referring to getting damaged.

I can't see the bolts on those, but some have visible bolts, and sometimes
people come out at night and steal them :-) Funny to see a road with half
of them uprooted.

We don't have many like that, just the one road with
3 sets of them. No one has ever removed any of those.

We have more rebels then :-)

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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 04:25:50 +0100, Rod Speed
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"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 10/02/2018 04:55 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:27:05 +0100, Rod Speed
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed
a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

They're actually quite a bit smarter than most, just a
neurotic bundle of nerves. They basically evolved that
way because they are prey to stuff like lions and tigers etc.

At one time I worked on a Forest Service ranch that was the winter home
for about 250 head of saddle and pack stock, both mules and horses. I
preferred the mules. The only problem is a mule is smart enough to look
out for number one while you can coax a horse into doing stupid things.
otoh, most mules aren't afraid of a length of rope laying in the trail,
running water, tree branches blowing in the wind, llamas, bicycles, elk,
deer, shadows, or whatever else will trigger a horse.

I've just been to this one again and was again reminded that quite a few
of them were kept where they were wanted to be when not actually doing
anything by just a line of white plastic cord keeping them from wandering
around.

That's surprising, I always see temporary electric fence.

Not sure that would work very well with Clydesdales, they have very hairy
legs.

They operate at about 6000V, I guess it can spark through the fur.

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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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rbowman wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Ours are low enough so that trucks and vans
can just drive over them, with a shallow curb so
they don't even have to slow down to do that.

The larger ones have a concrete apron for that purpose.
The tiny ones were constructed without thinking that
something like a moving van might need to navigate them.

Ours are fine for that, those and semis can drive right
over them as if they arent there. There is nothing but
concrete in the middle. Can't actually find a street
view of one, our street view is 8 years old now.

Many drivers haven't figured out how they work yet. We have
many four way stops where people take turns in an orderly fashion.

We don't have any of those, one of the two roads at that
intersection always has giveway signs on one of the roads.

They tend to take roundabouts the same, stopping before
entering even if the way is clear, which defeats the purpose.

We don't see that at all, presumably because we don't have
any intersections which don't have giveways on one road.

Some of our chicanes/bulbouts have bollards on them to stop people doing
that, but people have discovered they're just hollow plastic and driven
straight through them, smashing the stupid things to pieces.

We do have some of those, mostly to stop people driving along the
footpaths in the big parks, but they are solid concrete so no one
tries to take them out.

Down in England they criminally damage cars with automatic raising
bollards, should you dare to use a bus lane.

We don't have any of those, but I spose its one way to enforce
bus only lanes. Not sure we have too many bus only lanes tho.

Public transport is a ****ing nuisance and should be banned entirely.

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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 03:49:03 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:44 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:27:05 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 05:45:16 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses enough
to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the motor
car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

A common description around here is a cowboy is the third dumbest
critter riding the second dumbest and chasing the first dumbest.

I would agree with that statement.

I wouldn't, sheep are a lot dumber than cattle.

I'd say they were equally stupid.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 23:37:03 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 06:49:30 +0100, Rod Speed
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"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 10/02/2018 04:51 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
news On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:37:49 +0100, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/30/2018 11:08 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Yes. Generally called spark plug wires in this country. They may be
a
thing of the past. My Toyota doesn't have any but I don't know how
common that is.

It will, but they're concealed in one tube.

No concealment on the Toyota. It has Coil-on-Plug ignition.

https://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/to...nition-coils-1


Why do they tend to put the coils on the plugs now instead of having
one big coil?

Because it works better not distributing the high voltage thru the
distributor.
And because it works better with modern computer controlled engines.

This should be fun, explaining it to someone who by their own admission
hasn't a clue of how an IC engine works...

Yeah, bet he doesn't even know what a distributor does.

My first car was a Rover, with the distributor mounted just behind the
front wheelarch, where it regularly got soaked. I know all about the
bloody things.

But you havent noticed that modern computer controlled injected cars don't
have them. So they can't use the old style single high voltage coil which
gets
the high voltage distributed to the individual spark plugs by the
distributor.

I assumed the computer controlled the HV.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 03:46:57 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 10/02/2018 04:42 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 20:37:49 +0100, rbowman wrote:

On 09/30/2018 11:08 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Yes. Generally called spark plug wires in this country. They may be a
thing of the past. My Toyota doesn't have any but I don't know how
common that is.

It will, but they're concealed in one tube.

No concealment on the Toyota. It has Coil-on-Plug ignition.

https://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/to...nition-coils-1


Why do they tend to put the coils on the plugs now instead of having one
big coil?

The last car I inspected may have had that, I'm not sure, all I know is
there was a bar that clipped over all the plugs, with one thick wire
leading to it.

It eliminates the moving parts of the distributor and the high tension
wires. Even without the old mechanical points, that is still a couple of
areas of potential failure. The ECU is capable of delivering a timed pulse.

The trouble is when the ECU goes wrong all hell breaks loose.

My current (French - as in ****ty electrics) car failed the annual safety test because it was reporting a failure of the antilock brakes. Luckily I use a garage where the mechanics have common sense. The computer reported a fault, but refused to specify what part was broken, so he just passed it anyway.