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Old October 3rd 18, 11:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/10/2018 12:53 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


Are your roads littered with speed bumps? I go over perhaps
200
a
day.

That cinches it. No trip to the UK for me. Some of our dirt
roads
have
speed bumps, aka small boulders, but I've never seen them other
than on
private roads.

Round here they put them in the stupidest of places, for example
10
yards from a junction, where nobody could possibly be speeding
anyway.

And apparently they cost £10,000 each to install including
paperwork.


We have various 'traffic calming' schemes like roundabouts and
bulbouts
but speed bumps would really **** off the snowplow crews to say
nothing
of the cops.

Even some of the semi-private areas are getting rid of them. I
hit
one
of the damn things on my bicycle. The sun was in my eyes and I
didn't
see it coming so I taco'd my front wheel and did a face plant. I
was
not
happy.

You should have attempted to sue the council (or whatever you call
them over there). Causing injury to a cyclist can't be allowed
surely?

I hope I one day catch an old lady tripping over one on my
dashcam.
I've seen it happen before, a pensioner crosses the road and trips
on
the stupid thing. But I need proof.

Further north, they have bollards on the narrowing things (we call
them chicanes,

Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane

I assume that's what you refer to as a bulbout).

Nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curb_extension


https://missoulian.com/news/local/bi...cc4c03286.html

These are the worst of both. The theory is pedestrians will be out
in
the
street, visible, and have a shorter path.

Yeah, we have those outside one of our primary/grade schools.

They suck for bicycles since you're forced out in the traffic lane,
and
are difficult for trucks and buses to navigate.

There are also micro-roundabouts. Basically you take a 4-way
intersection
of residential streets, build a little round island in the middle,

Yeah, we have lots of those.

and plant flowers.

Nothing in the middle with ours, only with the big ones.

The first moving van in the area runs over the thing since it's
impossible
to navigate around it with anything bigger than a mini-van.

Ours are low enough so that trucks and vans can
just drive of them, with a shallow curb so they
don't even have to slow down to do that.

I drive over a lot of them with my car.

I don't, but that's because I don't want to lose more demerit
points and have to walk instead of drive. Its easy enough to
stay on the road itself and I mostly don't go straight thru
most of our smallest roundabouts anyway.

Howe many ****ing pigs do you have?


Heaps. Must be something like 30 in my town which has a population of 30K


And I thought it was bad here. If I drive through the centre of town,
I'll see about 3 cops in 10 minutes. But they're mostly in marked cars,
so I see them first.

Got breath tested twice last weekend on the saturday morning after
the garage sale run. The were 4 cop cars with about 10 pigs at the
first one and just the one with just one pig at the second one. That
was a long weekend here tho, and double demerits for 5 days.

With the run over to the Henty Machinery Field Days a week
or so before, saw 5 cop cars booking people going to that.


Is this because Aussies drink more beer,


Those weren't doing breath tests. The congestion was
massive, breath testing them all would have made it
much worse. They were using their radar to catch
those exceeding the speed limit, particularly in the
small towns on the highway into Henty.

or because your ****wit government likes to waste money?


The fines they incur pay for the cops doing the speed tests.

They all have full time radar in their cars and that works
whether they are moving or not. And they all do ANR too.


What a bunch of ****ing ******s.


And they have full time dashcams too so that if they get you
for say not giving way at an intersection, its not just their
word against yours.

Not sure if I damage the suspension more doing that than I would
damage
the steering by swerving round the ****ing things.

No need to swerve and that doesn't damage the steering anyway.

At the speed I travel, it's called swerving.

But the main thing is I damage the stupid thing on the road.

Doesn't damage ours, even when you drive over
it with a fully loaded semi what you lot call an HGV.

It does eventually. Many tonnes of steel creating quite a shock load
over
and over again.


Not when the concrete is done properly.
None of ours have ever needed to be replaced.


Never underestimate the uselessness of British engineers, especially those
employed by the government, where they always select the cheapest, not the
best.


Yeah, that's clearly true of those stupid plastic bollards.

Where lots of people have done it, they sink due to all the knocks
they get.

Ours don't. Unfortunately all our smallest roundabouts have
been done since our last street view so I can't show you easily.

Perhaps having dryer ground things don't sink so much.


They don't sink at all.


"Not at all" is a subcategory of "not so much".


Nope.

You can see here they've already repatched the area around them, and
it's cracking again after only 2 years:
https://goo.gl/maps/6xi5vut42yB2


That's not the smallest roundabouts, that's speed humps.


It was bumps I was referring to getting damaged.


None of ours have been.

I can't see the bolts on those, but some have visible bolts, and
sometimes
people come out at night and steal them :-) Funny to see a road with
half
of them uprooted.


We don't have many like that, just the one road with
3 sets of them. No one has ever removed any of those.


We have more rebels then :-)


Dunno, given the streetview shows no bolts, its more likely that the
original was just ****ed by design and that has now been fixed.

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Old October 3rd 18, 11:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I
passed
a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road.
The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that
went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of
dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine
wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the
guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

They're actually quite a bit smarter than most, just a
neurotic bundle of nerves. They basically evolved that
way because they are prey to stuff like lions and tigers etc.

At one time I worked on a Forest Service ranch that was the winter
home
for about 250 head of saddle and pack stock, both mules and horses. I
preferred the mules. The only problem is a mule is smart enough to
look
out for number one while you can coax a horse into doing stupid
things.
otoh, most mules aren't afraid of a length of rope laying in the
trail,
running water, tree branches blowing in the wind, llamas, bicycles,
elk,
deer, shadows, or whatever else will trigger a horse.

I've just been to this one again and was again reminded that quite a
few
of them were kept where they were wanted to be when not actually doing
anything by just a line of white plastic cord keeping them from
wandering
around.

That's surprising, I always see temporary electric fence.


Not sure that would work very well with Clydesdales, they have very hairy
legs.


They operate at about 6000V, I guess it can spark through the fur.


I doubt it. We did some field trials back in the late 60s and did use
an electric fence to keep the sheep in the trial blocks. One of us used
to have his dog with him all the time. The fence didn't stop the dog.
Until one day after heavy rain, the dog tried to go thru the fence
yet again. He never tried it again after that.

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Old October 4th 18, 12:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.d-i-y,alt.home.repair
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On 09/09/2018 01:08 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I passed
a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road. The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough
to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor
car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

A common description around here is a cowboy is the third dumbest
critter riding the second dumbest and chasing the first dumbest.

I would agree with that statement.


I wouldn't, sheep are a lot dumber than cattle.


I'd say they were equally stupid.


Then you have clearly never had much to do with either of them.

You cant do anything like a full bullock train with
sheep and that's not because they are much smaller.
Dog sleds work fine with dogs that are about the
same size as sheep, bit smaller if anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B..._Postcard.jpeg

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We just changed recently. Annoyingly they also changed one of
the
coins, so they're slightly bigger and no longer fit in any
machines
until they're all changed over at the shop's expense. Clueless
Royal
Mint, they do that every 5 years.

At least you don't have Loonies...

Who?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loonie

We do in fact have both a gold colored $1 and $2 coins and they
work
fine
except for the terminal stupidity that the $1 coin is bigger than
the
$2
coin.
And the 50c coin is bigger again, but is silver colored and not
gold
colored.

And we don't have 1c and 2c coins anymore, the lowest value is 5c.

I misspoke. I was thinking of the toonie..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toonie

I don't know if it was just an urban legend but there was talk that
the
manufacturing process wasn't ironed out for the first runs and the
core
would fall out leaving you with a $2 washer.

I liked going to Canada. In the '90s the exchange rate was
unfavorable
to the Canadians and they used different colors for their paper
money
with bears, penguins, or whatever in the designs. For $100 you got
a
wad
of multicolored Canadian bills. It was like Monopoly money.

What screwed me up was liters for gasoline. Between the exchange
rate
and trying to do liters to gallons in my head I always assumed I
was
getting screwed at the pump where the former Imperial gallons
seemed
like a bargain.

Our Aldi supermarkets, being a German company, like to make
everything
metric, hence they sell litres of milk instead of the pints I get
everywhere else,

Ours are all metric, and that's the law.

Do your lawmakers have nothing more sensible to do?

They do them all.

What? I asked why your lawmakers don't do more sensible things, other
than making everything metric, which nobody gives a **** about.

it makes price comparisons annoyingly difficult. They also do weird
**** like putting the prices above the shelf instead of on it, I'm
always looking at the price for the wrong thing.

They don't do that here.

In every supermarket but Aldi here, the price is on the shelf which
the
item is sitting on. In Aldi however, it's on the shelf above, or for
the
top shelf, way above it on a vertical bit.

Like I said, Aldi does it the same way all the other supermarkets do it
here.

They do however have a nice tactic of speeding things up by letting
you
just put one of everything on the conveyor belt, then telling them
how
many you have left in the trolley. Sometimes I guess you might feel
the
need to er.... tell them the wrong number :-)

Ours counts them even when you tell them.

Try filling your trolley to the brim, they can't see them all then :-)

I did that at one time, they required them to
all be on the belt so they could count them.

They did that to me a few times, then stopped again, it was slowing down
the queue. It seems they'd rather take the risk of some cheats than
have
everyone take longer to get through the checkout and employ more staff.

Our old silver dollars were large. The latest attempts to float out
a
dollar coin have been barely distinguishable from a quarter (25
cent
piece). They never have taken off.

You currently have no dollar coin?!

Yes they do. But for some reason most don't use it presumably because
they didn't crap all the paper $1 notes when they introduced it. Its
now
not even minted for general currency use, just for collectors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar...(United_States)

$1 US is worth even less than £1. Our £1 notes fell to bits through
overuse, I dread to think what theirs look like.

That comes down to how soon they pulp them, not how much use they get.

But they can only pulp them when they are handed in to a bank.

Commercial operations do that all the time. Do you seriously believe that
they stuff the money they take under the mattress ?


When we still had £1 notes, I saw them in a terrible state, and the date
on them was well in hte past, like 10 years. If you're correct, then
surely in that 10 years a bank must have seen them?


Corse they did, and didn't bother to pulp them.


Every single note I've ever had given to me by a bank was brand new. So I assume they ALWAYS pulp them.
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One of the chain self checkouts used to just
dispense $20s here and I used that for that
reason instead of an ATM but they have
changed those now and they don't let you
specify what you want, it works that out
for you so you can still get $20s by specifying
you want $40, but you get $50s if you say
you want $50 or $100 etc. That chain has
now closed their store in my town now so
I have to use the other self checkouts.

I'll have to pay more attention the next time. I think you can specify
a
number but the selection menu is in $20 increments. The max on the
menu
is
$200, or sometimes $100 at the smaller kiosks in markets.

I've got the feeling if you said you wanted $57 the machine would make
impolite remarks. Maybe not, since the self service checkouts can make
change with smaller bills. I never thought about it. I just grab $200
and
go.

Yeah, I'm about to try them all now because I have always
preferred to have $20 notes for the garage/yard sales. $50s
can be a real hassle, particularly given that we show up
at the garage/yard sales before anyone else and hardly
any ensure that they have lots of change. I prefer to use
the self checkouts rather than ATMs just because you
don't normally have to queue for the self checkouts
and there is no chance of a skimmer on the self checkout.

You must have a lot of criminals over there.

Most of those skimming ATMs are tourists.


The problem doesn't exist here,


Wrong, as always.
https://www.google.com/search?q=atm+skimming+uk

you're doing something wrong.


Nope.


Never happened to me or anyone I know, I guess it's not that common here. Either that or you're overly paranoid.
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You currently have no dollar coin?!

Effectively, no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar...(United_States)

I probably have one around here someplace. I thought I'd found it but
it
turned out to be a token for the carousel.

We also have a two dollar bill. I've got one that I'm using as a
bookmark. They never took off either.

We do not have a three dollar bill, leading to the expression 'as queer
as a three dollar bill'.

There is a 50 cent coin, again rarely seen. It's redundant since you
can
make any sum with 1, 5, 10, and 25.

We have 1,2,5,10,20,50,100,200 pence coins. They're all equally used.
Why use two 25 cent coins when you can use a 50?

Because that's what you happen to have, stupid.


Doesn't make the 50 redundant. We use 50s all the time, in fact I'd say
all coins are used equally.


You'd be wrong about that last.


Incorrect, in my line of work I receive coins all the time, and get equal numbers of all of them.
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Finally, if you live in an RV you get to keep it. And modify it.
Lot
rent is quite a bit less than rental properties.

I take it RV means campervan? Those depreciate way faster than
houses.

If you don't plan on selling it who cares? Besides, as you argued for
automobiles, buy them used after they depreciate.

Still a lot of repairs to do, like rust, and the engine of course.

Aluminum doesn't rust. RV's also include trailers so there is no
engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_vehicle

My brother had a motorhome but he towed a Toyota yacht tender behind
it.
That's a very common practice so you have a vehicle smaller than a bus
to drive around. With the trailer, you can drop the trailer and you
have
the tow vehicle for driving around.

There are quite a few full-time RVers in the US. Some are retirees,
others are younger and find employment as they go.

https://www.outsideonline.com/185778...re-you-park-it

When I hit the road it was in a pickup similar to the 3rd photo, rather
than a van or some of the pickups with larger camper shells. It was
inconspicuous and could go anyplace. I wandered around the western US
for a year, going to Arizona for the winter months, and then spent a
year as a Forest Service volunteer. It's an interesting life; you learn
to travel light and improvise.

I don't understand why they're still using steel on any vehicle,

Because its much cheaper than the alternatives
and isnt hard to treat so it doesn't rust.


Yet all cars rust. After the warranty period though.


No rust on my Getz and it's a long way out of warranty now.


But you live in a huge desert compared to the soggy island I'm stuck on.
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I really ****ed off a horserider once. I was driving a very old
Range
Rover automatic which had a conversion to LPG. It very often
misfired,
made loud bangs, and changed gear without warning. I managed to
cause a
small explosion and a loud revving of the engine just as I
passed
a
horserider coming the other way along a narrow country road.
The
horse
**** itself, and so did the rider.

I did better than that... I was coming down a narrow road that
went
past
a dude ranch on my Harley. Coming the other was was a herd of
dudes
on
their docile refugees from a canning factory led by a genuine
wild
west
cowboy. ****head's horse had a nervous breakdown while the
guests'
nags
barely roused from their stupor.

it doesn't take much to set them off. I've worked with horses
enough to
know most of them are a neurotic bundle of nerves. If the horse
can't
handle public roads, trailer it to a nice quiet horse trail
someplace.

Indeed. Horses on roads were fine, before the invention of the
motor car.

They weren't actually, lots got killed by them bolting etc.

They're not the brightest of animals.

They're actually quite a bit smarter than most, just a
neurotic bundle of nerves. They basically evolved that
way because they are prey to stuff like lions and tigers etc.

At one time I worked on a Forest Service ranch that was the winter
home
for about 250 head of saddle and pack stock, both mules and horses. I
preferred the mules. The only problem is a mule is smart enough to
look
out for number one while you can coax a horse into doing stupid
things.
otoh, most mules aren't afraid of a length of rope laying in the
trail,
running water, tree branches blowing in the wind, llamas, bicycles,
elk,
deer, shadows, or whatever else will trigger a horse.

I've just been to this one again and was again reminded that quite a
few
of them were kept where they were wanted to be when not actually doing
anything by just a line of white plastic cord keeping them from
wandering
around.

That's surprising, I always see temporary electric fence.

Not sure that would work very well with Clydesdales, they have very hairy
legs.


They operate at about 6000V, I guess it can spark through the fur.


I doubt it. We did some field trials back in the late 60s and did use
an electric fence to keep the sheep in the trial blocks. One of us used
to have his dog with him all the time. The fence didn't stop the dog.
Until one day after heavy rain, the dog tried to go thru the fence
yet again. He never tried it again after that.


So how come it gets through the much thicker wool of the sheep?
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On 09/29/2018 03:46 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

We have 1,2,5,10,20,50,100,200 pence coins. They're all equally used.
Why use two 25 cent coins when you can use a 50?

No idea. Almost all the coin trays have 5 buckets but the fifth is most
often used to hold paper clips, rubber bands, or other small items.

One explanation is the half dollar was the last of the coins to contain
silver and when the silver prices went up they were hoarded and fell
out
of circulation. By the time the composite coins came out people had
gotten away from using them.

Chicken or egg, but most vending machines and the pay phones didn't
take
them.

The US did have 2 and 3 cent pieces in the 1800's. There was the naive
thought that a coin's bullion value should match its face value so
there
was some jockeying around. The nickel won the popularity contest.

The 20 cent piece didn't last long either. That was a political move by
the silver miners to have the government buy more silver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Gold_speech

The US has solved that problem. None of the coinage has real worth
although you can make sort of a low grade zamak out of pennies.
Illegally, of course.

Why do you have such complicated terms for your coins? Ours are just
called by their value - 20p, 50p, etc.

Pity about the sovereign, crown, half crown, groat, shilling, sixpence,
quid
etc.


None of those are used anymore apart form "quid" which is simply a synonym
for "pound".


There are still slang terms for your decimal coins and notes.


Which aren't used.
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"Jimmy Wilkinson Knife" wrote in message
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On 09/30/2018 11:08 AM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Yes. Generally called spark plug wires in this country. They may
be
a
thing of the past. My Toyota doesn't have any but I don't know
how
common that is.

It will, but they're concealed in one tube.

No concealment on the Toyota. It has Coil-on-Plug ignition.

https://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/to...nition-coils-1


Why do they tend to put the coils on the plugs now instead of having
one big coil?

Because it works better not distributing the high voltage thru the
distributor.
And because it works better with modern computer controlled engines.

This should be fun, explaining it to someone who by their own
admission
hasn't a clue of how an IC engine works...

Yeah, bet he doesn't even know what a distributor does.

My first car was a Rover, with the distributor mounted just behind the
front wheelarch, where it regularly got soaked. I know all about the
bloody things.


But you havent noticed that modern computer controlled injected cars
don't
have them. So they can't use the old style single high voltage coil which
gets
the high voltage distributed to the individual spark plugs by the
distributor.


I assumed the computer controlled the HV.


Much more viable to do it at the 12V level and have the stepup
transformer right at the spark plug itself. That way you don't
have the problem of insulating the plug leads to the distributor.

 




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