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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which
they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? BTW, it was Critical Mass 'style' protest. "A critical mass was held on Wednesday against the EDO arms factory. Cyclists converged on the level and then rode into town. First stop was Barclays Bank on North Street, a service provider to ITT Exelis, EDO's parent company. A short picket was held. The mass progressed up to the clocktower and along Queen's Road and London Road and held another picket of Barclay at Preston Circus. The mass then started the long slog up the Lewes Road to ITT Exelis where a noise demonstration was held at the factory gates. One crap arrest was made for obstruct police at the factory. The arresting officer told us that he was sure he had the power to arrest he just wasn't sure "which one yet". Police also nicked a sound system. The arrestee was released on police bail at 1.30am. The arrest today is part of an escalation of policing in the last week or so outside EDO. We need your support. We will be outside the factory, remembering the dead from Somaila to Yemen to Afghanistan, Next Wednesday from 4-6pm - we need your support." http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/06/497077.html -- . One person's managed democracy is another person's Police State, where rights are replaced by concessions. |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
Doug wrote:
Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? Arrests are sometimes made to ensure the prompt and efficient investigation of a crime. The person arrested may be guilty of an offence, they may be released despite being guilty of an offence. Release is not proof of innocence. |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
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morecrap nothing to do with cycling. |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
On Jun 15, 8:32*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote: Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? Arrests are sometimes made to ensure the prompt and efficient investigation of a crime.*The person arrested may be guilty of an offence, they may be released despite being guilty of an offence. *Release is not proof of innocence. They don't have to arrest someone to merely question them. How can a person who has not been found guilty not be innocent? Why should the police alone be allowed to establish guilt without any court hearing and which police underling is allowed to decide anyway? -- . One person's managed democracy is another person's Police State, where rights are replaced by concessions. |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
On 15/06/2012 07:54, Doug wrote:
Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? BTW, it was Critical Mass 'style' protest. As long as they arrest the scum who cares how they do it? Shame they didn't use water cannon on the *******s. -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster University |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
Mrcheerful wrote:
Doug wrote: Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? Arrests are sometimes made to ensure the prompt and efficient investigation of a crime. The person arrested may be guilty of an offence, they may be released despite being guilty of an offence. Release is not proof of innocence. Doug doesn't want any of them to be released though. He wants all of them to be charged, prosecuted and tried. He's not as liberal as you and me. |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
On 15/06/2012 09:04, Doug wrote:
On Jun 15, 8:32 am, wrote: Doug wrote: Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? Arrests are sometimes made to ensure the prompt and efficient investigation of a crime. The person arrested may be guilty of an offence, they may be released despite being guilty of an offence. Release is not proof of innocence. They don't have to arrest someone to merely question them. How can a person who has not been found guilty not be innocent? "Fred West is still innocent", eh? |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
On 15/06/2012 09:09, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 15/06/2012 07:54, Doug wrote: Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? BTW, it was Critical Mass 'style' protest. As long as they arrest the scum who cares how they do it? Shame they didn't use water cannon on the *******s. Don't forget the soap. |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
Doug wrote:
Which means What means? Have I missed something? of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. If criminals commit multiple crimes, there are multiple charges that can be brought against them. It goes with the territory. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? No, he can quite likely be guilty. That's what the justice system, beginning with arrest, is there to determine. BTW, it was Critical Mass 'style' protest. So? "A critical mass was held on Wednesday against the EDO arms factory. Cyclists converged on the level and then rode into town. First stop was Barclays Bank on North Street, Did they try to go in with their bikes as your earlier video from London showed? Or did they just need the cashpoint? a service provider to ITT Exelis, EDO's parent company. A short picket was held. The mass progressed up to the clocktower and along Queen's Road and London Road and held another picket of Barclay at Preston Circus. The mass then started the long slog up the Lewes Road to ITT Exelis where a noise demonstration was held at the factory gates. One crap arrest was made for obstruct police at the factory. The arresting officer told us that he was sure he had the power to arrest he just wasn't sure "which one yet". That may be what he told 'us', but I doubt very much if that's what he told the person he arrested who, it seems to be known, was arrested 'for obstruct police at the factory' (sic). Is there a point being made here, Doug, or is it just the usual illiterate ravings we've come to expect from indymedia? |
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Police not always sure which powers of arrest they are using.
Doug wrote:
On Jun 15, 8:32 am, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Doug wrote: Which means of course they have plenty of powers of arrest from which they can pick and choose. Police often use arrest as a form of extra- judicial punishment and presumably, without a court hearing, the arrestee must be innocent? Arrests are sometimes made to ensure the prompt and efficient investigation of a crime. The person arrested may be guilty of an offence, they may be released despite being guilty of an offence. Release is not proof of innocence. They don't have to arrest someone to merely question them. How can a person who has not been found guilty not be innocent? Oh, that's an easy one. He may have done it. Why should the police alone be allowed to establish guilt without any court hearing and which police underling is allowed to decide anyway? They don't of course. Establishing guilt is the prerogative of the court. What the police do is investigate and bring charges. |
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