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On 12/15/2016 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
http://coolmaterial.com/rides/the-growler-city-bike/ Copy says 'disc brakes'. Technical quibbles: 1. there's no front disc because you can't do that and 2. there's no rear disc because there aren't 2-sp auto hubs with disc mount, they are all CB. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 3:11:00 PM UTC-5, Doug Landau wrote:
http://coolmaterial.com/rides/the-growler-city-bike/ I /like/ that--I would not pay a cent for it, but I admire the enterprise. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO |
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On 12/15/2016 2:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/15/2016 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: http://coolmaterial.com/rides/the-growler-city-bike/ Copy says 'disc brakes'. Technical quibbles: 1. there's no front disc because you can't do that and 2. there's no rear disc because there aren't 2-sp auto hubs with disc mount, they are all CB. I had a pair of those Monark forks for the motorized bicycle I built a few years back. It was made "not real well" in that the bolts that they used for the axle carrier (the little two plates that the wheel's axle bolts into) had ordinary nuts, and tightened down against the linkage and fork blade.... so that every time the suspension bounced, it would tend to loosen the bolt nuts. Tightening them more didn't help, the nuts were a narrow type and the bolts were made so short that a locking nut wouldn't hold on. The bolts themselves area a shouldered type that wasn't common. I have a metal lathe so I made new ones that were long enough for a nylon-locking nut, and then mine worked. I don't know what all these other people are doing. Also the welds on the Monark repro fork were kinda scary. At the fork crown (which is just two pieces of 3/16" flat, stamped steel) I recall that the welds to the head tube were only about 1 inch on the front and back side,,,, the welds didn't even go all the way around the head tube. I dunno if the original was welded and bolted that way or not; maybe it was and this was part of the "repro" effort. I know it isn't really meant to be a heavy-duty item, but still this was two details they could have updated IMO. I bought it because it looked nice and I wanted a board-track motorcycle look, and I used it pretty gently. And the Monark fork does look nice.... but it has at least two technical issues lurking. |
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On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 3:37:33 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/15/2016 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: http://coolmaterial.com/rides/the-growler-city-bike/ Copy says 'disc brakes'. Technical quibbles: 1. there's no front disc because you can't do that and 2. there's no rear disc because there aren't 2-sp auto hubs with disc mount, they are all CB. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Hard mount a normal rack on and I'd be VERY cocerned about twisting that headtube off the frame if riding on ajnything but smooth roads. Why design something like that beats me. after all it's not like you're lowering the standover height any. Different just to be different perhaps? Cheers |
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On 12/15/2016 3:18 PM, DougC wrote:
On 12/15/2016 2:37 PM, AMuzi wrote: On 12/15/2016 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: http://coolmaterial.com/rides/the-growler-city-bike/ Copy says 'disc brakes'. Technical quibbles: 1. there's no front disc because you can't do that and 2. there's no rear disc because there aren't 2-sp auto hubs with disc mount, they are all CB. I had a pair of those Monark forks for the motorized bicycle I built a few years back. It was made "not real well" in that the bolts that they used for the axle carrier (the little two plates that the wheel's axle bolts into) had ordinary nuts, and tightened down against the linkage and fork blade.... so that every time the suspension bounced, it would tend to loosen the bolt nuts. Tightening them more didn't help, the nuts were a narrow type and the bolts were made so short that a locking nut wouldn't hold on. The bolts themselves area a shouldered type that wasn't common. I have a metal lathe so I made new ones that were long enough for a nylon-locking nut, and then mine worked. I don't know what all these other people are doing. Also the welds on the Monark repro fork were kinda scary. At the fork crown (which is just two pieces of 3/16" flat, stamped steel) I recall that the welds to the head tube were only about 1 inch on the front and back side,,,, the welds didn't even go all the way around the head tube. I dunno if the original was welded and bolted that way or not; maybe it was and this was part of the "repro" effort. I know it isn't really meant to be a heavy-duty item, but still this was two details they could have updated IMO. I bought it because it looked nice and I wanted a board-track motorcycle look, and I used it pretty gently. And the Monark fork does look nice.... but it has at least two technical issues lurking. Originals (I just happen to have one nearby right now) slip the steerer and both blades through both crown plates and everything is fully brazed all through. The pivots have nice cap nuts which go on the pivot bolts fully tight, leaving proper clearance for the fork action. Construction detail is similar to this 1929 Harley Davidson model: http://www.yellowjersey.org/har14b.jpg (shown after steerer replacement) -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 12/15/2016 4:03 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 3:37:33 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: On 12/15/2016 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: http://coolmaterial.com/rides/the-growler-city-bike/ Copy says 'disc brakes'. Technical quibbles: 1. there's no front disc because you can't do that and 2. there's no rear disc because there aren't 2-sp auto hubs with disc mount, they are all CB. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Hard mount a normal rack on and I'd be VERY cocerned about twisting that headtube off the frame if riding on ajnything but smooth roads. Why design something like that beats me. after all it's not like you're lowering the standover height any. Different just to be different perhaps? Cheers A combination of two things: 1) "industrial Design" students designing things they don't have to build or use. And- 2) hipsters and their silly spending habits. Note the right-ward bike in the garage pic: one of those 36" things with the direct-drive rear wheel, where the pedals are set roughly 6" behind the saddle.... Not a Fliz, (or Flitz?) I can't recall the name of this one ATM... |
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On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 12:37:33 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/15/2016 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote: http://coolmaterial.com/rides/the-growler-city-bike/ Copy says 'disc brakes'. Technical quibbles: 1. there's no front disc because you can't do that and 2. there's no rear disc because there aren't 2-sp auto hubs with disc mount, they are all CB. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Andrew - don't look at the stupid details, look at the more or less good general idea. |
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