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Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists
Safety?
Hmm, safety. What a concept. That brings me back to my initial comment, which is how biased reporting molds the attitude of non-cyclists toward cyclists. Parents read news stories that seem to imply that all cyclists are menaces who don't belong on roads or anywhere the sun shines. They carry that with them in their attitudes about their children's cycling habits. Around here, the attitude is that there's no reasonable cause for a grown-up to ride a bicycle and that, therefore, there's no reason to waste time teaching kids a set of skills that will be useless the day he/she gets a driver's license. Thus, parents give their children bicycles and let them ride off without ever preparing them for what might happen out on the road. Hey, there's only about a half-a-decade between the time a child is allowed to ride on the street and the time he/she is allowed to drive on it. What can happen in those few years? |
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No Bicycle Licensing (was: Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists)
As long as you can buy a bicycle in a toy store, a bicycle
will be a toy. And as long as the only pre-requisite for purchasing one is to know which color you want, most people won't take riding one very seriously. Bicycle licensing, anybody? =v= Nope. =v= Bicycle licensing has not proven to be necessary in the parts of the world where bicycling is taken seriously, not even under the world's most totalitarian Maoist regime. So there's no reason to impose it in the U.S. or anywhere else. =v= Indeed, it would just create (yet another) barrier. _Jym_ |
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Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists
Papa Tom aka Tom Montalbano wrote:
[snip story that anyone who understands threaded Usenet can read] We never attempted Bike Safety Night again. [...] Your fatal mistake was letting the parents observe. Parents almost invariably foul up children's activities. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll |
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Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists
Bicycle licensing has not proven to be necessary in the
parts of the world where bicycling is taken seriously, The problem is that bicycling is NOT taken seriously in the US! |
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Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists
"Papa Tom" wrote in message ... Hmm. Nobody seems to agree with me, so I guess I'll just keep it to myself from now on. Just for the record, though, I strongly disagree that these examples do not imply a guilty verdict with regard to the bicyclists. However, I want you guys to know that I am IN NO WAY suggesting that the bicyclist is always an innocent victim. In fact, given the way so many of us ride, I wouldn't doubt the bicyclist is USUALLY the guilty party in these collisions. Two more examples, though, and then I'll drop it.... I won't comment on writers and news stories but have had a some conversations with people who have encountered cyclists that goes to what you are suggesting generally. They are basically 'taken by surprise' by cyclists after a turn or hill or similar view blocking situations. they seem to think that it is somehow the cyclists fault for being there, not that they were travelling too fast to react to an unexpected slower vehicle. In the sense of 'right or wrong' they don't really have a case but in the 'dead or alive' sense there PoV is somewhat stronger. |
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Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists
From the person who started this thread:
My apology to all that this discussion has gone on so long. I wonder if, perhaps, there is a more appropriate group for such a topic. If so, I'd like to know about it. For anyone who is interested, I just want to respond to one more comment below.... They are basically 'taken by surprise' by cyclists after a turn or hill or similar view blocking situations. they seem to think that it is somehow the cyclists fault for being there, not that they were travelling too fast to react to an unexpected slower vehicle. I'm sure that happens a lot. However, as I presume you are implying, that doesn't mean that every mishap between a bicycle and an automobile should automatically be assumed to be the cyclist's fault, correct? To, hopefully, wrap up this discussion, I just want to go back to a quote from my original post: "Camacho was hit while trying to cross in front of a 1994 Toyota Camry driven by..." This is typical of just about every article I've ever read about a bike/car collision. Saying that the cyclist was hit while "trying to cross in front of a car" is like saying "The pedestrian was crushed while trying to walk beneath a falling piano." It implies that the pedestrian knew there was a piano falling and that he shouldn't have made an attempt to walk beneath it -- when the truth may have been that the pedestrian was simply walking along the sidewalk when a piano suddenly fell out a window and landed on his head. Whatever might be the truth, the news reporter's personal attitude about pedestrians and how they selfishly hog the sidewalks from all the newspaper racks should not make its way into the story, consciously or unconsciously. This is why we need to maintain the dignity in journalism and cut the crap with all this blogging...but that's a topic for another day! |
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Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists
"Papa Tom" wrote:
My apology to all that this discussion has gone on so long. *I wonder if, perhaps, there is a more appropriate group for such a topic. *If so, I'd like to know about it. rec.bicycles.misc would be a more appropriate group for something lke this. Art Harris |
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Another example of slanted journalism re bicyclists
rec.bicycles.misc would be a more appropriate group for something lke
this. Thanks, Art. Actually, right after sending that last post, I found a group called rec.bicycles.soc, which markets itself as a group for discussion about the "societal issues of bicycling...Social issues, cycling transportation advocacy, laws, conduct of riders and drivers; road hazards ....." I think this particular thread has lost its steam at this point, but I will probably direct future posts of this nature to that group. TM |
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Another example of slanted journalism
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla...as-framed.html
Great contribution to this thread, Mike. Thanks! |
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