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Old October 10th 11, 12:37 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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On 10/10/2011 7:12 PM, Rob wrote:
On 10/10/2011 9:52 AM, terryc wrote:
Phil H wrote:
Than again, it could
just be the council hauling them off to the tip.


Around here it is scrap metal collectors.


This was happening when the bi annual cleanup was on its since changed.
Scrappies came first for about 2 week prior pulled all the metal out
left a mess then council came to remove the remainder (only taking it if
correctly bundled.) There has been mess piles left which council will
not remove.

I tell the scrappies to either take the lot or leave it or I report them.


I had a Volvo driving scrappie dismantling a monitor I had out on the
hard waste collection. He is well known for spreading bits all over,
then breaking off the neck of the tube to retrieve the copper wire in
the deflection yoke. I told him to either take the lot or leave it
alone. I didn't threaten to report him, the menace of the iron bar I was
holding was sufficient inducement for him to decide to take the whole
monitor.
He hasn't been seen around here since!

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Old October 10th 11, 02:33 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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Krypsis wrote:
On 10/10/2011 7:12 PM, Rob wrote:
On 10/10/2011 9:52 AM, terryc wrote:
Phil H wrote:
Than again, it could
just be the council hauling them off to the tip.

Around here it is scrap metal collectors.


This was happening when the bi annual cleanup was on its since changed.
Scrappies came first for about 2 week prior pulled all the metal out
left a mess then council came to remove the remainder (only taking it if
correctly bundled.) There has been mess piles left which council will
not remove.

I tell the scrappies to either take the lot or leave it or I report them.


I had a Volvo driving scrappie dismantling a monitor I had out on the
hard waste collection. He is well known for spreading bits all over,
then breaking off the neck of the tube to retrieve the copper wire in
the deflection yoke. I told him to either take the lot or leave it
alone. I didn't threaten to report him, the menace of the iron bar I was
holding was sufficient inducement for him to decide to take the whole
monitor.
He hasn't been seen around here since!


One day I'm collecting some old hardware from a mate to do a little
re-use myself, when he asked me to give h a hand to shift about 25
monitors to the kerbsie(his council has (bi-)annual clean up days. I
asked if council would take them and he said " they will go before
council comes around". Sure enough we had no sooner dumpd the last one
and walked inside and a truck pulled up and collected the lot whole.

Different stlye in our area as you get four free pickups a year. uusally
he instruction is to put your stuff out Sunday evening for collection
that week. By monday morning most piles have been ratted for anything
with metal in it.

The local scrap yard has no dea how these guys make a living given the
amount of driving they must do. Born out by hardly seeing the same truck
& driver for long, except in one case where all members of the family
have mobile jobs and can spot stuff during their paid work.



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Old October 10th 11, 11:15 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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tomasso wrote:
Phil H wrote:
On Oct 10, 9:31 am, "tomasso" wrote:

Council seems to be doing a bit of recycling down in Bay St. Probably a good thing.


Do they collect the wrecks off the street?

And what about that hideous purple bike chained to a tree in front of
the Lord Wolsley? It was there for months. I was surprised it lasted
as long as it did. (Mental note: nobody steals purple bikes.)


No, they collect bikes from the dump, if cleant them up not too bad, and put
a sign on it with a phone number (and a modest price), chained to a light post
outside the Council Depot on Bay St. That's a form of recycling. Someone
probably makes a few bucks a week.

Don't know if council remove hideous orphan frames (like outside out local).

I can find out if it happens in the country. Brother works at one of the councils
(surveying and designing cycle paths - somewhat better than CBD, me thinks).


His comment is that a council would probably not take a chained up bike unless
there was some sign of abandonment and that being chained up would
probably be taken as a sign of ownership.

Secondly unless it was brought to the council's attention they would probably
not do anything. Similar situation for abandoned cars.

But this may vary from council to council...

T.
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Old October 11th 11, 02:47 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On Oct 11, 9:15*am, "tomasso" wrote:

His comment is that a council would probably not take a chained up bike unless
there was some sign of abandonment and that being chained up would
probably be taken as a sign of ownership.


That just makes me wonder what constitutes a "sign of abandonment".
I've seen bikes this bad:

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2011/05...-Felder-11.jpg

Secondly unless it was brought to the council's attention they would probably
not do anything. Similar situation for abandoned cars.


Fair enough, I suppose, although I think if a car is parked illegally
they might move a bit faster. I know that when backpackers dump their
cars around Ultimo, they seem to acquire a "move this or get towed"
sticker fairly quickly. However, this is no doubt Sydney Council
looking to maintain its parking revenue.


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Old October 11th 11, 02:56 AM posted to aus.bicycle
TimC[_2_]
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On 2011-10-11, Phil H (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
On Oct 11, 9:15*am, "tomasso" wrote:

His comment is that a council would probably not take a chained up bike unless
there was some sign of abandonment and that being chained up would
probably be taken as a sign of ownership.


That just makes me wonder what constitutes a "sign of abandonment".
I've seen bikes this bad:

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2011/05...-Felder-11.jpg


That rack still looks good. It's not dead yet, Jim!

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Old October 11th 11, 05:09 AM posted to aus.bicycle
tomasso
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Phil H wrote:
On Oct 11, 9:15 am, "tomasso" wrote:

His comment is that a council would probably not take a chained up bike unless
there was some sign of abandonment and that being chained up would
probably be taken as a sign of ownership.


That just makes me wonder what constitutes a "sign of abandonment".
I've seen bikes this bad:

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2011/05...-Felder-11.jpg


I'd say that was abandoned, but the Kryptonite lock might be a challenge
for the council.

Secondly unless it was brought to the council's attention they would probably
not do anything. Similar situation for abandoned cars.


Fair enough, I suppose, although I think if a car is parked illegally
they might move a bit faster. I know that when backpackers dump their
cars around Ultimo, they seem to acquire a "move this or get towed"
sticker fairly quickly. However, this is no doubt Sydney Council
looking to maintain its parking revenue.


I think it might be my next door neighbour ringing up council. Parking is
tight around here (and the neighbour has a garage)...

T.
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Old October 12th 11, 11:13 AM posted to aus.bicycle
TimC[_2_]
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On 2011-10-09, Phil H (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
On Oct 7, 1:17*pm, F Murtz wrote:

probably why it was thrown out, although it looks in good nick except
for rusty chain.


It could well have been thrown out *because* of the rusty chain. Given
the number of abandoned bikes chained to various objects around inner
Sydney, I can only surmise that mountain bikes are now so cheap that
they aren't worth anything once they get a bit ratty. Even thieves
don't want them.


In related news, apparently it's mostly "mountain bikes" that aren't
properly lit at night:

http://www.bv.com.au/general/bikes-and-riding/91803/

Hands up those who are surprised that cheap kmart "mountain bikes" are
ridden by fools who don't want to part with their $30 for a set of
lights?

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Old October 13th 11, 02:24 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Zebee Johnstone
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In aus.bicycle on Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:13:43 +1100
TimC wrote:

In related news, apparently it's mostly "mountain bikes" that aren't
properly lit at night:

http://www.bv.com.au/general/bikes-and-riding/91803/


33% of those without lights and 17% of those with lights rode mountain
bikes.

so 67% of those without lights were not riding mountain bikes....

Can't tell a thing without total population really. Not to mention
"what is a mountain bike". Flat bar bike?

(Not that I disagree with the general idea that cheap bikes are ridden
by cheap people.)

Easy way to fix it is require bikes to be sold with lights, I believe
they do that in Germany.

(For more fun, mandate hub dynamos on road bikes.... watch the weight
weenies explode!)

Zebee
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Old October 13th 11, 02:33 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On Oct 12, 9:13*pm, TimC -spam-accepted-
here.org wrote:
On 2011-10-09, Phil H (aka Bruce)
* was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

On Oct 7, 1:17*pm, F Murtz wrote:


probably why it was thrown out, although it looks in good nick except
for rusty chain.


It could well have been thrown out *because* of the rusty chain. Given
the number of abandoned bikes chained to various objects around inner
Sydney, I can only surmise that mountain bikes are now so cheap that
they aren't worth anything once they get a bit ratty. Even thieves
don't want them.


In related news, apparently it's mostly "mountain bikes" that aren't
properly lit at night:

http://www.bv.com.au/general/bikes-and-riding/91803/

Hands up those who are surprised that cheap kmart "mountain bikes" are
ridden by fools who don't want to part with their $30 for a set of
lights?


Aren't mtbs the biggest sellers (here I include mtb *style* bikes, as
sold in supermarkets)? If so, I'd expect they'd also have the most
unlit riders. If roadies were the biggest sellers, I'd expect them to
have the largest numbers of unlit riders.

And as for hub dynamos - bah! ;^P Give me my battery powered Ayup LED
lights any day ...err. night... (much more than $30, though).

Tony F
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Old October 13th 11, 03:07 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Zebee Johnstone
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In aus.bicycle on Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:33:58 -0700 (PDT)
thefathippy wrote:

And as for hub dynamos - bah! ;^P Give me my battery powered Ayup LED
lights any day ...err. night... (much more than $30, though).


My SON hub and IQ Fly give me the same as my friend's AYUP give him.
Except I don't have to remember to charge the battery....

The Shimamo on the Brom is powering a halogen light which is a bit
on the woeful side but is good enough for street commuting which is
what it does. I will eventually get an LED for it, but not till the
bulb blows.

I"m well over faffing about with batteries.

Zebee
 




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