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Old August 23rd 19, 06:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Sir Ridesalot
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Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

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Old August 23rd 19, 08:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 8/23/2019 12:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

Cheers


compatible 3H CrMo new w/bolts $14.95
(Or a modern cartridge set complete $29.95)

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Old August 24th 19, 03:27 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 10:26:14 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

Cheers


Out of curiosity - why would you use an old and not very efficient way to do things then you could buy a normal cartridge BB that will last you the rest of your life since it is sealed to keep dirt out?
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Old August 24th 19, 03:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 12:14:32 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/23/2019 12:26 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

Cheers


compatible 3H CrMo new w/bolts $14.95
(Or a modern cartridge set complete $29.95)

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www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


I was disagreeing with people here about using ceramic bearings. But that was because the argument was about decreased rolling resistance. The difference is miniscule because of how slowly bicycle rotating parts work.

But they wear so slowly that it is probably a good idea to use them where you can.
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Old August 24th 19, 05:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On 8/24/2019 9:27 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 10:26:14 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

Cheers


Out of curiosity - why would you use an old and not very efficient way to do things then you could buy a normal cartridge BB that will last you the rest of your life since it is sealed to keep dirt out?


I run loose-ball forged steel spindles in all my own bikes.
People weigh all sorts of factors and make reasonable
choices for their own applications as they see fit.

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Old August 24th 19, 06:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On 8/24/2019 12:00 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/24/2019 9:27 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 10:26:14 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle
they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

Cheers


Out of curiosity - why would you use an old and not very efficient way
to do things then you could buy a normal cartridge BB that will last
you the rest of your life since it is sealed to keep dirt out?


I run loose-ball forged steel spindles in all my own bikes.
People weigh all sorts of factors and make reasonable choices for their
own applications as they see fit.


I've got a mix. But I've had sealed BB units fail, about as often as
loose ball units. Both have failed seldom, but in my limited experience,
it's not a night and day difference.

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Old August 24th 19, 07:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 10:31:32 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/24/2019 12:00 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/24/2019 9:27 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 10:26:14 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle
they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

Cheers

Out of curiosity - why would you use an old and not very efficient way
to do things then you could buy a normal cartridge BB that will last
you the rest of your life since it is sealed to keep dirt out?


I run loose-ball forged steel spindles in all my own bikes.
People weigh all sorts of factors and make reasonable choices for their
own applications as they see fit.


I've got a mix. But I've had sealed BB units fail, about as often as
loose ball units. Both have failed seldom, but in my limited experience,
it's not a night and day difference.

To me, BBs have always been a wear item. Some wear longer than others, but I've never had the same BB on a bike from the beginning of its life until the end. Some cartridge designs were horrid, like ISIS. I went through those like Kleenex. Octalink was O.K. but not great. Prior UN square drive were fairly robust. PW was robust, although I broke the center collar on one of those and had both crak arms facing forward -- which is probably a marketable invention now. I would get pitting or bad cup wear in opening bearing BBs. In the PNW, sealed bearings are nice but wiper seals are certainly not perfect. You can pull those off and find a nice, dry bearing -- hopefully not corroded.

-- Jay Beattie.
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Old August 24th 19, 08:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Sir Ridesalot
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On Saturday, 24 August 2019 10:27:11 UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, August 23, 2019 at 10:26:14 AM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Anyone here have a decent Suntour CYCLONE bottom bracket spindle they're willing to sell? I have NOS bottom bracket cups for it.

Cheers


Out of curiosity - why would you use an old and not very efficient way to do things then you could buy a normal cartridge BB that will last you the rest of your life since it is sealed to keep dirt out?


Becausethe are efficient enough and work well enough for me. After all some of my bikes have cup-and-cone loose balls bottom brackets and they have been on the bike since the mid-1980s. Why should I change when what I have works perfectly for me?

The bike I want the Suntour Cyclone spindle is one I'm building up with the original groupset it had when new. I do NOT want a cartridge bottom bracket assembly for it.

Cheers
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Old August 25th 19, 04:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 3:49:44 PM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

The bike I want the Suntour Cyclone spindle is one I'm building up with the original groupset it had when new. I do NOT want a cartridge bottom bracket assembly for it.


Our 1986 Cannondale touring bikes came with SunTour Superbe sealed bottom
brackets. Mine lasted about 25 years. My wife's has less mileage, and is still
fine.

But I understand your desire to duplicate the original.

- Frank Krygowski
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Old August 25th 19, 03:23 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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Default WTB Suntour CYCLONE BB Spindle

On 8/24/2019 10:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 3:49:44 PM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

The bike I want the Suntour Cyclone spindle is one I'm building up with the original groupset it had when new. I do NOT want a cartridge bottom bracket assembly for it.


Our 1986 Cannondale touring bikes came with SunTour Superbe sealed bottom
brackets. Mine lasted about 25 years. My wife's has less mileage, and is still
fine.

But I understand your desire to duplicate the original.

- Frank Krygowski


I'm happy that you are happy.

But everything has a measurable failure rate:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...t/STBBRUST.JPG

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