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Sir Ridesalot schreef op 19-4-2015 om 3:35:
On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 9:22:16 PM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 3:38:39 PM UTC-4, Ian Field wrote: "AMuzi" wrote in message ... On 4/18/2015 11:42 AM, Ian Field wrote: wrote in message ... Try here...ask http://www.loosescrews.com/ https://www.biketoolsetc.com/ I had a similar prob but cannot remember whether the pin came out or not ......the one with the pin isnot in the tool box AFAIK An email in my inbox from the bicycle shop has informed me that the tool I have fits the cassette locking ring as well. When I tried that tool it slipped into the lockring spline, but the fit didn't look right somehow - the obvious thing to do was ask someone who knows rather than wade in and ruin the tool. The tool was bough for use with solid axles, so it will accommodate both axle types. The UG freewheel spline (nearly universal across current freewheel brands now)is similar but not identical to the HG cassette pattern. It's either one or the other, cannot be both. Am I right in assuming the cassette lockring isnt driven tighter by torque from the chain? The tool I bought for sprocket/freewheel assemblies slots into the lockring, but I thought the fit didn't look exactly quite right - I emailed the bicycle shop and they said it should be OK. For others interested in this; the cassette lock ring tightness is NOT affected by the chain. Sometimes a freewheel removal tool will fit into a cassette lockring but will sometimes be a tight fit. That tight fit sometimes means that the tool has to be vigourously tapped to get it to disengage after the lockring is tightened. Cheers Addendum BTW, you do NOT need any locktite on a cassette lockring nor do you need to reef on it to tighten it. I've seen people rip some of the threads out of a cassette body because tthey tried to super tighten tthe lockring. Tighten to spec. That is 40 Nm and that is a considerable torque. If not the the cassette could be a source of creaks and clicks which most people have a hard time to locate. Lou |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 07:44:03 +0200, Lou Holtman
wrote: Sir Ridesalot schreef op 19-4-2015 om 3:35: On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 9:22:16 PM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 3:38:39 PM UTC-4, Ian Field wrote: "AMuzi" wrote in message ... On 4/18/2015 11:42 AM, Ian Field wrote: wrote in message ... Try here...ask http://www.loosescrews.com/ https://www.biketoolsetc.com/ I had a similar prob but cannot remember whether the pin came out or not ......the one with the pin isnot in the tool box AFAIK An email in my inbox from the bicycle shop has informed me that the tool I have fits the cassette locking ring as well. When I tried that tool it slipped into the lockring spline, but the fit didn't look right somehow - the obvious thing to do was ask someone who knows rather than wade in and ruin the tool. The tool was bough for use with solid axles, so it will accommodate both axle types. The UG freewheel spline (nearly universal across current freewheel brands now)is similar but not identical to the HG cassette pattern. It's either one or the other, cannot be both. Am I right in assuming the cassette lockring isnt driven tighter by torque from the chain? The tool I bought for sprocket/freewheel assemblies slots into the lockring, but I thought the fit didn't look exactly quite right - I emailed the bicycle shop and they said it should be OK. For others interested in this; the cassette lock ring tightness is NOT affected by the chain. Sometimes a freewheel removal tool will fit into a cassette lockring but will sometimes be a tight fit. That tight fit sometimes means that the tool has to be vigourously tapped to get it to disengage after the lockring is tightened. Cheers Addendum BTW, you do NOT need any locktite on a cassette lockring nor do you need to reef on it to tighten it. I've seen people rip some of the threads out of a cassette body because tthey tried to super tighten tthe lockring. Tighten to spec. That is 40 Nm and that is a considerable torque. If not the the cassette could be a source of creaks and clicks which most people have a hard time to locate. Lou 40 Nm.... about the same as an 18mm sparkplug :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 12:15:11 AM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 10:05:50 PM UTC-4, wrote: nnnnnnnnnnnnnn BTW, you do NOT need any locktite on a cassette lockring nor do you need to reef on it to tighten it. I've seen people rip some of the threads out of a cassette body because tthey tried to super tighten the lockring. Locktite holds the fastener in place with a reduced torque REDUCED TORQUE get with the program Geeze Gene, it's just a lock ring and it doesn't require a lot of torque to tighten. What's with you and locktite; or having to use heat to remove so many sumple things? Cheers with your body frozen most of the year we can excuse your insensitivities to lockring threading. In warmer climates, home mechanics often notice difficulty threading Shimnano HG rings. heat is good. There is a Mapp gas O2 torch kit is the box. An alternative I use on lug nuts is CRC electronic cleaner spraying acetic plus silicone maybe. On lockrings, using Loctite is a finesse there exists a voluble group of anti-locktite reactionaries... if you write LOCKTITE ....10 anti lockers will crawl out from the Bushes to rant abt NOT using Locktite as if using Locktite is a full negative eg torque the head without a torgue wrench. |
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wrote in message ... aw your brain is frozen solid... Loctite LUBES threading so the ring engages cleanly then powders when removed again LUBING the unthreading. The thing I'd have in mind here; thread lock inhibits corrosion. Normally I'd use Coppaslip, but I'm getting the impression that may not be the way to go with cassette lockrings. |
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On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 3:57:07 PM UTC-4, Ian Field wrote:
wrote in message ... aw your brain is frozen solid... Loctite LUBES threading so the ring engages cleanly then powders when removed again LUBING the unthreading. The thing I'd have in mind here; thread lock inhibits corrosion. Normally I'd use Coppaslip, but I'm getting the impression that may not be the way to go with cassette lockrings. the area is heavily chain lubed....I should look at my cyclocrosser hung off the bus for 6 years... |
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