How to remove cogs from a (MF-TZ21) freewheel?

1 April, 1971

YEARS DECADES GENERATIONS A CENTURY TURNED

before I bought snap ring pliers and know what ???


NO WHAT STUPID?

never usedum ......

AMuzi wrote:

wrote:

How does the snap ring get removed?


No. 489 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...DL._SX300_.jpg


Gene, from you I expected something more entertaining. Like this:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/FIRE.JPG

The smartass was suggesting that proper tools would work. But ironically
your suggestion (to use an angle grinder) about your own solution
appears to be fitting. Considering the fact that I have found zero
evidence of a "snap ring" on any freewheel, anyplace on the Internet.

Yes, making stuff cheaper is the trend, but that doesn't stop anybody on
the Internet from showing how cheaper than cheaper can be done.

Please provide any evidence you have of such a snap ring on a freewheel
with multiple cogs, like the Shimano MF-TZ21.

I'm genuinely curious and I might someday use the information, even
though for now I will be using a part that I ordered and is already in
the mail. I can't remove a snap ring that I cannot see. Please point to
it in the picture I posted...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7792/...cfeb5a9b_z.jpg





--

I also ordered a spoke tension meter. I don't skimp on tools.

CAST OFF DUDE

snap rings remove with cold chisels

https://www.google.com/#q=Shimano+MF-TZ21+SNAP+RING

On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:54:52 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
AMuzi wrote:

wrote:

How does the snap ring get removed?


No. 489 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...DL._SX300_.jpg


Gene, from you I expected something more entertaining. Like this:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/FIRE.JPG

The smartass was suggesting that proper tools would work. But ironically
your suggestion (to use an angle grinder) about your own solution
appears to be fitting. Considering the fact that I have found zero
evidence of a "snap ring" on any freewheel, anyplace on the Internet.

Yes, making stuff cheaper is the trend, but that doesn't stop anybody on
the Internet from showing how cheaper than cheaper can be done.

Please provide any evidence you have of such a snap ring on a freewheel
with multiple cogs, like the Shimano MF-TZ21.

I'm genuinely curious and I might someday use the information, even
though for now I will be using a part that I ordered and is already in
the mail. I can't remove a snap ring that I cannot see. Please point to
it in the picture I posted...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7792/...cfeb5a9b_z.jpg





--

I also ordered a spoke tension meter. I don't skimp on tools.

Andrew Muzi is a very respected bike shop employee who has helped many here over many years. He's forgotten more about bicycle mechanics than many of us will ever learn. If anyone knows the construction of your freewheel it would be A. Muzi.

I see you didn't get more than one reply to your same question over on;

http://forums.mtbr.com/drivetrain-sh...el-965622.html

The snap ring is most likely semi hidden by that last cog that you want to remove. Maybe shining a bright light at it will allow you to see the thin joint where the two ends of the snap ring meet?

Cheers

Cheers

On 02/05/15 03:53, John Doe wrote:
AMuzi wrote:

wrote:

How does the snap ring get removed?


No. 489 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...DL._SX300_.jpg


Gene, from you I expected something more entertaining. Like this:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/FIRE.JPG

The smartass was suggesting that proper tools would work. But ironically
your suggestion (to use an angle grinder) about your own solution
appears to be fitting. Considering the fact that I have found zero
evidence of a "snap ring" on any freewheel, anyplace on the Internet.

Yes, making stuff cheaper is the trend, but that doesn't stop anybody on
the Internet from showing how cheaper than cheaper can be done.

Please provide any evidence you have of such a snap ring on a freewheel
with multiple cogs, like the Shimano MF-TZ21.

I'm genuinely curious and I might someday use the information, even
though for now I will be using a part that I ordered and is already in
the mail. I can't remove a snap ring that I cannot see. Please point to
it in the picture I posted...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7792/...cfeb5a9b_z.jpg

After a certain amount of ****ing about I found;

http://li283-85.members.linode.com/s...1-rear-cog.pdf

Which confirms it's a TL-FW30. So, unscrew the ****er and close the thread.

On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 2:22:06 AM UTC-4, Tosspot wrote:
On 02/05/15 03:53, John Doe wrote:
AMuzi wrote:

wrote:

How does the snap ring get removed?


No. 489 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...DL._SX300_.jpg


Gene, from you I expected something more entertaining. Like this:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/FIRE.JPG

The smartass was suggesting that proper tools would work. But ironically
your suggestion (to use an angle grinder) about your own solution
appears to be fitting. Considering the fact that I have found zero
evidence of a "snap ring" on any freewheel, anyplace on the Internet.

Yes, making stuff cheaper is the trend, but that doesn't stop anybody on
the Internet from showing how cheaper than cheaper can be done.

Please provide any evidence you have of such a snap ring on a freewheel
with multiple cogs, like the Shimano MF-TZ21.

I'm genuinely curious and I might someday use the information, even
though for now I will be using a part that I ordered and is already in
the mail. I can't remove a snap ring that I cannot see. Please point to
it in the picture I posted...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7792/...cfeb5a9b_z.jpg

After a certain amount of ****ing about I found;

http://li283-85.members.linode.com/s...1-rear-cog.pdf

Which confirms it's a TL-FW30. So, unscrew the ****er and close the thread.

He wants to remove the smallest cog from the freewheel not the freewheel from the hub. Until he removes that cog it's best to have the freewheel on the hub unless he has access to a freewheel vice.

Cheers

On 02/05/15 08:36, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 2:22:06 AM UTC-4, Tosspot wrote:
On 02/05/15 03:53, John Doe wrote:
AMuzi wrote:

wrote:

How does the snap ring get removed?


No. 489 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...DL._SX300_.jpg


Gene, from you I expected something more entertaining. Like this:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/FIRE.JPG

The smartass was suggesting that proper tools would work. But ironically
your suggestion (to use an angle grinder) about your own solution
appears to be fitting. Considering the fact that I have found zero
evidence of a "snap ring" on any freewheel, anyplace on the Internet.

Yes, making stuff cheaper is the trend, but that doesn't stop anybody on
the Internet from showing how cheaper than cheaper can be done.

Please provide any evidence you have of such a snap ring on a freewheel
with multiple cogs, like the Shimano MF-TZ21.

I'm genuinely curious and I might someday use the information, even
though for now I will be using a part that I ordered and is already in
the mail. I can't remove a snap ring that I cannot see. Please point to
it in the picture I posted...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7792/...cfeb5a9b_z.jpg

After a certain amount of ****ing about I found;

http://li283-85.members.linode.com/s...1-rear-cog.pdf

Which confirms it's a TL-FW30. So, unscrew the ****er and close the thread.

He wants to remove the smallest cog from the freewheel not the freewheel from the hub. Until he removes that cog it's best to have the freewheel on the hub unless he has access to a freewheel vice.

Cheers

Ah ****it, sorry about that. Should have paid more attention. I never
knew you could do that. The cheapy ones from my youth were all in one.
Istr you could get into the freewheel part from the back but by the
time you needed to do that it was usually beyond resurrection :-(

https://www.google.com/#q=removing+s...id=935072 084

worser there are fabricators specializing in making the damn things....

On 02/05/15 13:14, wrote:

https://www.google.com/#q=removing+s...id=935072 084

worser there are fabricators specializing in making the damn things....

After arse raping an Alfine-11 hub, I now have a collection of snap ring
pliers. Anyone with an Alfine-11 will know what I'm talking about :-(

The replacement is working OK. Slipped once in about 400km without
provocation, so I'm hoping with lashings of the proper oil in it and a
decent run in period, it'll be ok (fingerscrossed).

Thanks for the cliché. Anything is possible, but I doubt that a snap
ring would be located someplace where it would be destroyed by removing
it. I'm pretty sure whatever is required to remove the cogs is on the
end of the freewheel. If the smallest cog does not unscrew, perhaps the
outer shell of the freewheel includes the smallest cog.

While it's true there's only one answer on the MTBR forum, an answer
that differs from Muzi's, at least it isn't shrouded in idiocy and noise.


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On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:54:52 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
AMuzi am yellowjersey.org wrote:

avagadro7 gmail.com wrote:

How does the snap ring get removed?


No. 489 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...DL._SX300_.jpg


Gene, from you I expected something more entertaining. Like this:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/FIRE.JPG

The smartass was suggesting that proper tools would work. But ironically
your suggestion (to use an angle grinder) about your own solution
appears to be fitting. Considering the fact that I have found zero
evidence of a "snap ring" on any freewheel, anyplace on the Internet.

Yes, making stuff cheaper is the trend, but that doesn't stop anybody on
the Internet from showing how cheaper than cheaper can be done.

Please provide any evidence you have of such a snap ring on a freewheel
with multiple cogs, like the Shimano MF-TZ21.

I'm genuinely curious and I might someday use the information, even
though for now I will be using a part that I ordered and is already in
the mail. I can't remove a snap ring that I cannot see. Please point to
it in the picture I posted...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7792/...cfeb5a9b_z.jpg





--

I also ordered a spoke tension meter. I don't skimp on tools.

Andrew Muzi is a very respected bike shop employee who has helped many here over many years. He's forgotten more about bicycle mechanics than many of us will ever learn. If anyone knows the construction of your freewheel it would be A. Muzi.

I see you didn't get more than one reply to your same question over on;

http://forums.mtbr.com/drivetrain-sh...el-965622.html

The snap ring is most likely semi hidden by that last cog that you want to remove. Maybe shining a bright light at it will allow you to see the thin joint where the two ends of the snap ring meet?

Cheers

Cheers