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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:44:48 PM UTC-8, Phil Lee wrote:
Frank Krygowski considered Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:56:02 -0500 the perfect time to write: On 11/21/2016 3:20 PM, Jon Gustafson wrote: Hi there, I´m currently refurbishing my Merlin Extralight and I want to get that real brushed finish they have. I´ve tried everything such as a steel brush with medium tension steelwires. I´ve tried the scotchbrite and a very fine steelwool which it´s definately not. So, what on earth is it they´re using to achieve that finish, I´ve tried to contact them, but they don´t return my mails. I don't know what they use. But have you tried a brass wire wheel? The range of tooling used for such finishes is almost unlimited. DeLorien used a special "flapper" wheel with some abrasive flaps among mostly cotton for the brushed finish on their stainless steel cars. Apparently, achieving the correct balance of "brush" and "polish" in the finish is almost impossible without access to identical wheels, and the skills to use the right speed and pressure to match the original. It would help if the OP said what the results of the scotchbrite and steel wool were and how they differed from what is desired/already present |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:29:12 PM UTC-6, Tosspot wrote:
Why would you not stat with a very fine grit, 100*, and work down? It isn't like emery paper is expensive. In the wood working world, 100 grit is a very medium grit. Not fine and definitely not very fine. 600 is very fine. 320-400 is fine. 220 is a little less than fine. I'm surprised Andy uses 60 grit on metal. Seems way too coarse for metal work. Its very coarse for much softer wood. Let alone hard metal. |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:41:03 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:29:12 PM UTC-6, Tosspot wrote: Why would you not stat with a very fine grit, 100*, and work down? It isn't like emery paper is expensive. In the wood working world, 100 grit is a very medium grit. Not fine and definitely not very fine. 600 is very fine. 320-400 is fine. 220 is a little less than fine. I'm surprised Andy uses 60 grit on metal. Seems way too coarse for metal work. Its very coarse for much softer wood. Let alone hard metal. (:-) I habitually use 40 grit "flap wheels" to clean up rusty of just grotty looking metals. Works just fine. |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On 11/22/2016 8:41 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:29:12 PM UTC-6, Tosspot wrote: Why would you not stat with a very fine grit, 100*, and work down? It isn't like emery paper is expensive. In the wood working world, 100 grit is a very medium grit. Not fine and definitely not very fine. 600 is very fine. 320-400 is fine. 220 is a little less than fine. I'm surprised Andy uses 60 grit on metal. Seems way too coarse for metal work. Its very coarse for much softer wood. Let alone hard metal. It's the standard material, and for good reason. Start he http://www.yellowjersey.org/kelly4.jpg Try to get here before acid wash and primer: http://www.yellowjersey.org/end13l.jpg http://www.yellowjersey.org/den13l.jpg http://www.yellowjersey.org/chs16b.jpg -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
Scotch Brite... On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:01:27 -0600, AMuzi wrote: On 11/22/2016 8:41 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:29:12 PM UTC-6, Tosspot wrote: Why would you not stat with a very fine grit, 100*, and work down? It isn't like emery paper is expensive. In the wood working world, 100 grit is a very medium grit. Not fine and definitely not very fine. 600 is very fine. 320-400 is fine. 220 is a little less than fine. I'm surprised Andy uses 60 grit on metal. Seems way too coarse for metal work. Its very coarse for much softer wood. Let alone hard metal. It's the standard material, and for good reason. Start he http://www.yellowjersey.org/kelly4.jpg Try to get here before acid wash and primer: http://www.yellowjersey.org/end13l.jpg http://www.yellowjersey.org/den13l.jpg http://www.yellowjersey.org/chs16b.jpg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 12:20:50 PM UTC-8, Jon Gustafson wrote:
Hi there, I´m currently refurbishing my Merlin Extralight and I want to get that real brushed finish they have. I´ve tried everything such as a steel brush with medium tension steelwires. I´ve tried the scotchbrite and a very fine steelwool which it´s definately not. So, what on earth is it they´re using to achieve that finish, I´ve tried to contact them, but they don´t return my mails. It doesn't seem to strike people that the Extralight is pretty thin and you absolutely must use the finest abrasive you can get away with. John B. was closest with his idea of starting with 600 grit and working your way down. It is always easier to make it rougher than to take out the scratches you cause by starting too coarse. |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 12:49:37 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 12:20:50 PM UTC-8, Jon Gustafson wrote: Hi there, I´m currently refurbishing my Merlin Extralight and I want to get that real brushed finish they have. I´ve tried everything such as a steel brush with medium tension steelwires. I´ve tried the scotchbrite and a very fine steelwool which it´s definately not. So, what on earth is it they´re using to achieve that finish, I´ve tried to contact them, but they don´t return my mails. It doesn't seem to strike people that the Extralight is pretty thin and you absolutely must use the finest abrasive you can get away with. John B. was closest with his idea of starting with 600 grit and working your way down. It is always easier to make it rougher than to take out the scratches you cause by starting too coarse. Start with 600 and work your way UP not down. Better yet start with a wet rag covered with rubbing compound, and work your way up to polish. |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On 2016-11-23, Bob Flumere wrote:
Scotch Brite... Right. Too bad Mark Hickey doesn't post here anymore. From his site: http://www.habcycles.com/techstuf.html "Brushed. This is the finish used on all Habanero frames. Once you own a brushed frame, you'll never want anything else. The brushed finish produces a soft, smooth silver finish (which I find much more attractive than bead blasted or polished, but chalk that up as personal opinion). It's very scratch-resistant, and minor abrasions are virtually invisible on the surface. If you do manage to scratch or otherwise mar the surface, a few passes with a ScotchBrite pad or 400 grit sandpaper restores the finish perfectly. This means that you should be able to keep your frame looking brand new literally forever!" -- Gregory S. Sutter Mostly Harmless http://zer0.org/~gsutter/ |
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The real brushed finish of a Merlin ti-bike
On 2016-11-25, Gregory Sutter wrote:
On 2016-11-23, Bob Flumere wrote: Scotch Brite... Right. Too bad Mark Hickey doesn't post here anymore. From his site: http://www.habcycles.com/techstuf.html Also these: http://forums.mtbr.com/vintage-retro...ml#post4103310 http://forums.mtbr.com/frame-buildin...ml#post5825870 -- Gregory S. Sutter Mostly Harmless http://zer0.org/~gsutter/ |
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