Merry Christmas, everyone

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On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 15:57:58 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
wrote:

Ah. I don't read Dickens, and I never took an English literature
class;

That explains why you're still somewhat sane.

by the time I got to college I was already an internationally published
poet, so I reckoned I knew more than a bunch of wannabes could teach me;

The general principle of a college education is to educate yourself,
with the various instructors providing guidance, explaining basic
principles, and enough reading to insure that you don't have enough
time for anything else. If you had expected to learn something from
the "bunch of wannabes", would have been disappointed.

a decision spectacularly vindicated in the decades to come. I chose
my course by letting the prospectus fall open and sticking a pin
into the page.

My secondary and advanced educational course was whatever crooked path
was needed to avoid being drafted and sent to Viet Nam.

Why has nobody told me?

You didn't ask.

How would one know to ask about what one doesn't know?

The progress of theoretical science is marked by knowing which
questions are worth asking. Edwin Hubble was particularly good at
doing that. Most great discoveries are proceeded by "that's odd".
Fortunately, it does not take intimate knowledge of Jewish history,
religion, and practices to know which questions to ask. Curiosity and
observation are usually sufficient.

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Asking questions that have no answer and generating aphorisms is a
characteristic of the various eastern religions. (Western religions
prefer to simply re-write history where events are only attributable
to divine intervention). The eastern religions are literally
overflowing with ponderables, illuminating one-line statements, and
unanswerable questions, all of which provide the mysteries necessary
to attract the GUM (great unwashed masses). The problem is that these
aphorisms are clever, but often self contradictory and largely useless
for anything practical.

If you find it necessary to ask questions that have no answer, I
suggest investigating the merits of the eastern religions, or perhaps
the mystic branch of Judaism, the Kaballah.
http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_mysticism
If either of these are two extremes are a bit too ummm... extreme, I
suggest one of the religions based on mystery:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Roman_mysteries

You might be confusing Scrooge with Shylock, the banker in the

Nope. My knowledge of Scrooge has just been doubled by corresponding
with you. I don't read turgid political leaflets just because
someone else thinks it literature.

Methinks you should learn more about literary characters and political
pamphlets. On the basis of their own merits, these do tend to be
somewhat useless, except that the individual members of the GUM tends
to model itself after literary characters and resultant mobs tend to
become inspired by the political pamphlets. Many a revolution has
been formed by emulating the leaders of the previous revolution, and
by following the instructions in the political pamphlets.

Merchant of Venice, who no doubt would have been Jewish. At the time,
the church forbade gentiles from engaging in the lending of money for
interest. It seems that Christ had ejected the money lenders from of
the temple, implying that he did not appreciate the currency
conversion and investment banking services that they offered.

Ah, now in economics I can busk it, fake it or hack it, as required by
the company I'm keeping at the time.

I seriously doubt that. How would you adapt to a society where
charging of interest on loans was considered illegal, sacrilege, and
immoral? One does not become wealthy loaning money and not making a
profit. Yet that was the situation well through the Victorian era.

In Jesus's time, it's a bit tricky; though there are plenty of
guesses, we don't know for a fact what the Romans shipped to Egypt
in exchange for the constant flow of grain from Egypt to Rome.
It's a good guess though that the exchange rate was one for one,
and zero inflation, with crucifixion the penalty for being caught
shaving the empire's coins (unless you were the Emperor of course).

I don't know how that worked, but I'm sure the Romans sent back
something of value. As I understand it, luxury goods for the ruling
class in Egypt was the major Roman export.

Incidentally, the practice of grooving the edge of the coin was a
measure enacted to prevent coin shaving:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_coin_debasement

Unfortunately, the only tag line that Shakespeare assigned to Shylock
was the "pound of flesh", which is an anathema to vegetarians and
vegans.

Vegetarians and vegans are too humourless for me. It's a long
time since I knew any, and then I only went to dinner with them
because they were the sisters of some mates at HP.

It's a side effect of the self inflicted suffering required to be a
vegetarian. I tried, and failed. Most of the vegetarians that I know
secretly sneak in some meat when nobody is watching. However, the
"pound of flesh" was a metaphor used by Shakespeare to describe
killing the borrower should he not be able to repay the loan. Were
the play to have been written for a modern audience, the description
would be more explicit so as not to alienate the vegetarians.

Andre Jute
I like everyone's holidays, except the fasts

You might not enjoy Jewish holidays. Most of them involve some form
of self-sacrifice, suffering, or dietary restrictions. You don't need
to be a masochist to be Jewish, but it helps.

Thanks for the tip. That's a narrow escape.

What's wrong with suffering? It feels so good when I stop.

Andre Jute
Urbane. Cosmopolitan. Cultured.

Got it. You're a city slicker.

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DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH writes:

On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 10:03:48 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 2:47:31 AM UTC, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:12:40 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
wrote:

Merry Christmas, everyone.
Andre Jute
Hallelujah!

Thanks. Bah Humbug and happy first evening of Hanukkah to y'all.

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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Is Bah Humbug a Jewish holiday? Why has nobody told me? I would
instantly have bought a yarmulke.

Andre Jute
I like everyone's holidays, except the fasts

Merry Christmas to all and even dumb-ass John B who thinks that a B52 refuels through it's nose.

https://www.google.com/#q=The+B-52+h...slip-way+doors

That's nothing https://www.google.com/#q=The+hyena+...h+its+clitoris

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On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 3:58:03 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:

Ah. I don't read Dickens, and I never took an English literature class; by the time I got to college I was already an internationally published poet, so I reckoned I knew more than a bunch of wannabes could teach me; a decision spectacularly vindicated in the decades to come. I chose my course by letting the prospectus fall open and sticking a pin into the page.

That was the same method I used for developing my engineering and programming skills.

It seems to have worked since I helped one person win a Nobel Prize, another an Emmy and worked directly in military projects at Sandia National Laboratories who are notoriously particular.

On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 5:10:58 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 4:21:30 AM UTC, Ralph Barone wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Thanks. Bah Humbug and happy first evening of Hanukkah to y'all.


Merry Kwanzmas to you too Jeff!

Oops. Kwanzaa is a fraudulent "African" holiday invented by the FBI agent provocateur Maulana Ndabezitha Karenga (born Ronald McKinley Everett) whose instructions were to make the Black Power movement overreact so much that they would become a laughing stock to Americans. As it turned out, Americans had no sense of irony and took this crap so seriously that now it is a thought crime to make jokes about it.

I remember sitting around a campfire in Kenya with a bunch of Swahili askari (guards for a food convoy I was running through hostile country to the famished), having a whole hilarious evening when one of them brought up Kwanzaa within no more than a couple of years of its invention; it was the first time I heard of it. Since the very word is Swahili, you can imagine how this invention went down with the very people it was supposed to "honor". Any bureaucrat who told them to celebrate Kwanzaa instead of Christmas, as schoolchildren are now forced to do in America, would have walked funny for a long time because they would have shoved their rifles up an uncomfortable place at the very suggestion of such silliness.


My son was literally placed in shackles, his eyelids taped open and made to witness Kwanzaa celebrations in public school here in the US. His liberal, lesbian communist teachers also made him memorize passages from Chairman Mao's Red Book and renounce Christianity. Jesus wept. I heard about his capture and commanded my Seal Team unit -- Seal Team 6.2 -- to join me in storming the school to retrieve my son and the other suffering, imprisoned students. We deployed in our black helicopter gun ship (on whisper mode), repelled on to the playground, and my team laid down covering fire while I ran into the building and saved the children. One teacher tried to attack me, and I dispatched her with a piece of chalk from the blackboard -- like a Ninja throwing star, but chalk. The mission was successful and is fully recounted in my book "The Kwanzaa Conspiracy," which has sold internationally and received the 2007 Dunning-Kruger book award.

Tell you what Jay. I will take you down to several places in east Oakland, Emeryville and Berkeley and you give THEM your liberal white superiority BS.. Of course you wouldn't make it past the first stop.

While these people are living in the gutters from your promises they do not take really well to promises from lawyers.

On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Monday, December 26, 2016 at 1:10:58 AM UTC, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 4:21:30 AM UTC, Ralph Barone wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Thanks. Bah Humbug and happy first evening of Hanukkah to y'all.


Merry Kwanzmas to you too Jeff!

Oops. Kwanzaa is a fraudulent "African" holiday invented by the FBI agent provocateur Maulana Ndabezitha Karenga (born Ronald McKinley Everett) whose instructions were to make the Black Power movement overreact so much that they would become a laughing stock to Americans. As it turned out, Americans had no sense of irony and took this crap so seriously that now it is a thought crime to make jokes about it.

I remember sitting around a campfire in Kenya with a bunch of Swahili askari (guards for a food convoy I was running through hostile country to the famished), having a whole hilarious evening when one of them brought up Kwanzaa within no more than a couple of years of its invention; it was the first time I heard of it. Since the very word is Swahili, you can imagine how this invention went down with the very people it was supposed to "honor". Any bureaucrat who told them to celebrate Kwanzaa instead of Christmas, as schoolchildren are now forced to do in America, would have walked funny for a long time because they would have shoved their rifles up an uncomfortable place at the very suggestion of such silliness.


My son was literally placed in shackles, his eyelids taped open and made to witness Kwanzaa celebrations in public school here in the US. His liberal, lesbian communist teachers also made him memorize passages from Chairman Mao's Red Book and renounce Christianity. Jesus wept. I heard about his capture and commanded my Seal Team unit -- Seal Team 6.2 -- to join me in storming the school to retrieve my son and the other suffering, imprisoned students. We deployed in our black helicopter gun ship (on whisper mode), repelled on to the playground, and my team laid down covering fire while I ran into the building and saved the children. One teacher tried to attack me, and I dispatched her with a piece of chalk from the blackboard -- like a Ninja throwing star, but chalk. The mission was successful and is fully recounted in my book "The Kwanzaa Conspiracy," which has sold internationally and received the 2007 Dunning-Kruger book award.

-- Jay Beattie.

Gee, it's rough where you live, Jay. I thought this liberal/Democratic madness was still in it's mild form:
"The new clergy not only teach children clever repartee such as Bush is like Hitler!, but they use their positions as taxpayer-supported wards of the state to demote the old religion, treating prayer, Bibles, and Christmas songs like hate crimes. At the Cori Street Elementary School in State College, Pennsylvania, children were led in a chant of "celebrate Kwanzaa" while Christmas carols were stripped of all religious content. At Pattison Elementary School in Katy, Texas, Christmas songs were banned, but students were threatened with grade reductions for refusing to sing songs celebrating other religious faiths. A school district in California prohibits teachers from mentioning Christmas or wearing Christmas jewelry. A New Jersey teacher was forced by an ACLU suit to abandon plans to take children to see the Broadway version of A Christmas Carol. In Panama City, Florida, the school principal changed the name of a Bible study group from "Fellowship of Christian Students" to "Fellowship of Concerned Students" and for good measure prohibited the club from advertising. A school administrator in Dallas, Texas, was reprimanded for using her e-mail to forward copies of President Bush's National Day of Prayer Proclamation, though the school district had no problem with em- ployees using e-mail to send jokes, chain e-mails, and secular messages of
encouragement." -- Ann Coulter, GODLESS

I've written to the White House, letter embargoed until President Trump takes office, to suggest that you be given the NationalStandUpGuy Cross, GreatDad Division, with Oak Leaves and Knight's Cluster.

Andre Jute
Suburban street corners in Portland OR are now more dangerous than darkest Africa

I think I already mentioned it here but I'll repeat it - on Christmas day I turned on the TV to see programs about the life of the Buddha, a show celebrating Islam and another of Jewish old testament history.

Not ONE single word of the life of Jesus or why western culture has thrived under the moral development of Christianity.

On 12/26/2016 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Monday, December 26, 2016 at 1:10:58 AM UTC, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 4:18:10 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 4:21:30 AM UTC, Ralph Barone wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Thanks. Bah Humbug and happy first evening of Hanukkah to y'all.


Merry Kwanzmas to you too Jeff!

Oops. Kwanzaa is a fraudulent "African" holiday invented by the FBI agent provocateur Maulana Ndabezitha Karenga (born Ronald McKinley Everett) whose instructions were to make the Black Power movement overreact so much that they would become a laughing stock to Americans. As it turned out, Americans had no sense of irony and took this crap so seriously that now it is a thought crime to make jokes about it.

I remember sitting around a campfire in Kenya with a bunch of Swahili askari (guards for a food convoy I was running through hostile country to the famished), having a whole hilarious evening when one of them brought up Kwanzaa within no more than a couple of years of its invention; it was the first time I heard of it. Since the very word is Swahili, you can imagine how this invention went down with the very people it was supposed to "honor". Any bureaucrat who told them to celebrate Kwanzaa instead of Christmas, as schoolchildren are now forced to do in America, would have walked funny for a long time because they would have shoved their rifles up an uncomfortable place at the very suggestion of such silliness.


My son was literally placed in shackles, his eyelids taped open and made to witness Kwanzaa celebrations in public school here in the US. His liberal, lesbian communist teachers also made him memorize passages from Chairman Mao's Red Book and renounce Christianity. Jesus wept. I heard about his capture and commanded my Seal Team unit -- Seal Team 6.2 -- to join me in storming the school to retrieve my son and the other suffering, imprisoned students. We deployed in our black helicopter gun ship (on whisper mode), repelled on to the playground, and my team laid down covering fire while I ran into the building and saved the children. One teacher tried to attack me, and I dispatched her with a piece of chalk from the blackboard -- like a Ninja throwing star, but chalk. The mission was successful and is fully recounted in my book "The Kwanzaa Conspiracy," which has sold internationally and received the 2007 Dunning-Kruger book award.

-- Jay Beattie.

Gee, it's rough where you live, Jay. I thought this liberal/Democratic madness was still in it's mild form:
"The new clergy not only teach children clever repartee such as Bush is like Hitler!, but they use their positions as taxpayer-supported wards of the state to demote the old religion, treating prayer, Bibles, and Christmas songs like hate crimes. At the Cori Street Elementary School in State College, Pennsylvania, children were led in a chant of "celebrate Kwanzaa" while Christmas carols were stripped of all religious content. At Pattison Elementary School in Katy, Texas, Christmas songs were banned, but students were threatened with grade reductions for refusing to sing songs celebrating other religious faiths. A school district in California prohibits teachers from mentioning Christmas or wearing Christmas jewelry. A New Jersey teacher was forced by an ACLU suit to abandon plans to take children to see the Broadway version of A Christmas Carol. In Panama City, Florida, the school principal changed the name of a Bible study group from "Fellowship of Christian Students" to "Fello
wship of Concerned Students" and for good measure prohibited the club from advertising. A school administrator in Dallas, Texas, was reprimanded for using her e-mail to forward copies of President Bush's National Day of Prayer Proclamation, though the school district had no problem with em- ployees using e-mail to send jokes, chain e-mails, and secular messages of
encouragement." -- Ann Coulter, GODLESS

I've written to the White House, letter embargoed until President Trump takes office, to suggest that you be given the NationalStandUpGuy Cross, GreatDad Division, with Oak Leaves and Knight's Cluster.

Andre Jute
Suburban street corners in Portland OR are now more dangerous than darkest Africa

I think I already mentioned it here but I'll repeat it - on Christmas day I turned on the TV to see programs about the life of the Buddha, a show celebrating Islam and another of Jewish old testament history.

Not ONE single word of the life of Jesus or why western culture has thrived under the moral development of Christianity.


try relevantradio.com

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 12-25-2016 18:57, Andre Jute wrote:
What is the sound of one hand clapping?

My high school music teacher taught me how to do it.
It sounds a bit like two hands clapping, but it's not as loud.

--
Wes Groleau

On 12-25-2016 20:26, Andre Jute quoted:
Ann Coulter, GODLESS

There are millions of public school administrators in this country.
It's inevitable that there are at leasst a dozen idiots among them.
Coulter only points out half a dozen?

I think most public schools need LOTS of improvement, but the majority
at least _want_ to do well.

--
Wes Groleau

On 12-26-2016 19:32, wrote:
I think I already mentioned it here but I'll repeat it - on Christmas day I turned on the TV to see programs about the life of the Buddha, a show celebrating Islam and another of Jewish old testament history.

Not ONE single word of the life of Jesus or why western culture has thrived under the moral development of Christianity.

So you picked the wrong channel. So what? I normally don't watch TV
myself, but every time I was at the home of my sister or my parents,
if it wasn't sports or news, it was something Christian or sympathetic
to CHRISTmas.

--
Wes Groleau