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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 7:46:56 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-01-02 17:42, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/2/2017 7:33 PM, John B. wrote: Question: How much tire pressure are you running? I used gatorskins for a while and never had any sidewall problems. We've had Gatorskins on our tandem for a couple years now. No sidewall problems, and (knock wood) no flats yet. But I suspect I'm quite a bit more careful than Joerg. The main reason is probably that you guys don't have these thorns laying around everywhe https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...te_003_lhp.jpg Admittedly, one reason I'm more careful is that I have a stoker who can smack me at will! The first rule for a tandem captain is "Don't upset the stoker." I found that stokers are on the cell phone a lot. Tandems can be difficult to pass during commute hours and sometimes I had to stay behind one long enough to overhear heated conversations via phone. "Now how often do I have to tell you NOT TO DO that!?" and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ They are all over northern California but they usually reach maturity late in the season and after the first rain they thorns lose their rigidity and aren't a problem anymore. This is a typical season. They only were a pain for about a month. |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 3:09:24 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
My last but one Gatorskin went, side wall damage, the usual. The side wall on the rear tire looks iffy already and if that blows I'd have no more spare for it. So it's time to refill the basement stack. Unfortunately the CST Correre only comes in 700c*23mm. This leaves the Gatorskin Hardshell with supposedly better side walls but ... the 700c*25 beaded is $48, ouch, too much. To my surprise the foldable is "only" $39. Why is that? I don't want the normal Gatorskins anymore because the side walls are too flimsy. If anyone knows about another new tire that is very puncture resistant and low cost that would be nice. Weight does not matter and heavier is usually better. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You are so clueless https://www.google.com/search?q=thic...ErDJIQ_AUIBygC |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 7:46:56 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-01-02 17:42, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/2/2017 7:33 PM, John B. wrote: Question: How much tire pressure are you running? I used gatorskins for a while and never had any sidewall problems. We've had Gatorskins on our tandem for a couple years now. No sidewall problems, and (knock wood) no flats yet. But I suspect I'm quite a bit more careful than Joerg. The main reason is probably that you guys don't have these thorns laying around everywhe https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...te_003_lhp.jpg Admittedly, one reason I'm more careful is that I have a stoker who can smack me at will! The first rule for a tandem captain is "Don't upset the stoker." I found that stokers are on the cell phone a lot. Tandems can be difficult to pass during commute hours and sometimes I had to stay behind one long enough to overhear heated conversations via phone. "Now how often do I have to tell you NOT TO DO that!?" and so on. Hey Joerg, if you want to splurge, Gatorskin folders are on sale today at Western Bikeworks. https://www.westernbikeworks.com/pro...d-tire-folding This is my LBS, so I don't have concerns about not buying locally. -- Jay Beattie. |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 11:03:25 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 10:48:19 AM UTC-8, Doug Landau wrote: https://www.google.com/search?q=thic...ErDJIQ_AUIBygC Tell us how long you've been using Thickslicks Doug. I have a set of them and the rubber is not attached well to the casing. So when you get a cut from a piece of glass, or other road debris, it opens a wide crack in the tire that is just asking for another debilitating cut. Unless you've used these things yourself perhaps you should keep your comments of "clueless" to yourself. Shush Tom I'm trying to unload one |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-03 11:29, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 7:46:56 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2017-01-02 17:42, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/2/2017 7:33 PM, John B. wrote: Question: How much tire pressure are you running? I used gatorskins for a while and never had any sidewall problems. We've had Gatorskins on our tandem for a couple years now. No sidewall problems, and (knock wood) no flats yet. But I suspect I'm quite a bit more careful than Joerg. The main reason is probably that you guys don't have these thorns laying around everywhe https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...te_003_lhp.jpg Admittedly, one reason I'm more careful is that I have a stoker who can smack me at will! The first rule for a tandem captain is "Don't upset the stoker." I found that stokers are on the cell phone a lot. Tandems can be difficult to pass during commute hours and sometimes I had to stay behind one long enough to overhear heated conversations via phone. "Now how often do I have to tell you NOT TO DO that!?" and so on. Hey Joerg, if you want to splurge, Gatorskin folders are on sale today at Western Bikeworks. https://www.westernbikeworks.com/pro...d-tire-folding This is my LBS, so I don't have concerns about not buying locally. Thanks, Jay, but that's a regular Gatorskin and the price is pretty normal for that. Those have weak side walls, they are not their new "Hardshell" version. The other gripe I have with them is that they run a smidgen too small. I just mounted my last one. Getting it on took well over one hour and my thumbs are hurting like crazy. I think I am going to try the SCT Conquistare next. Unfortunately no wire bead but one can't have everything. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-03, Joerg wrote:
This _is_ a steel frame and 1982 should count as old, Gazelle Trim Trophy. This frame: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/234710/ I know that (probably) isn't a photo of Joerg's bike, but does it look to anyone else like the fork has been bent backward post-impact? -- Gregory S. Sutter Mostly Harmless http://zer0.org/~gsutter/ |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-03 12:16, Gregory Sutter wrote:
On 2017-01-03, Joerg wrote: This _is_ a steel frame and 1982 should count as old, Gazelle Trim Trophy. This frame: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/234710/ I know that (probably) isn't a photo of Joerg's bike, but does it look to anyone else like the fork has been bent backward post-impact? It's not mine. I think the impression of a bent fork is caused by the photo lens. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-03, Joerg wrote:
I'd like 28mm but it won't fit in my frame. 23mm is too iffy because of numerous required offroad stints and the occasional heavy load. I am also looking at the CST Conquistare which comes in 25mm but unfortunately only the foldable one has 3-ply all across the sidewalls. Joerg, Durano DD, $24 ea. when you buy 2: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../11071015.html Michelin Pro4 Endurance, $25.5: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../11090762.html Gatorskin, $29: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../10780033.html Gatorskin Hardshell, $32: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../10780030.html -- Gregory S. Sutter Mostly Harmless http://zer0.org/~gsutter/ |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-03 12:31, Gregory Sutter wrote:
On 2017-01-03, Joerg wrote: I'd like 28mm but it won't fit in my frame. 23mm is too iffy because of numerous required offroad stints and the occasional heavy load. I am also looking at the CST Conquistare which comes in 25mm but unfortunately only the foldable one has 3-ply all across the sidewalls. Joerg, Durano DD, $24 ea. when you buy 2: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../11071015.html Michelin Pro4 Endurance, $25.5: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../11090762.html Gatorskin, $29: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../10780033.html Gatorskin Hardshell, $32: http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ty.../10780030.html Thanks. None of them are beaded but if I can't find anything else the Hardshell in the last link has a very competitive price. First I'll see if I can get the Conquistare though because they cost less and AFAICT are also 3-ply. I have seen them under $20 with free shipping even if you buy only one to try it. Just mounted the last Gatorskin on a shallow Mavic rim. What a bear. Can't feel my thumbs anymore. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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